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I have just decided to consider everything for sale. That if it is not I get a happy surprise.|
Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
They should make origin pools since it has been asked for a lot, but to monetize them would not be desired, needed or a good thing for the game. We know from the recent Pummit they are not hurting for cash and have plenty of things already monetized.
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I have also accepted that things we are willing to pay for happen faster.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
I have just decided to consider everything for sale. That if it is not I get a happy surprise.
I have also accepted that things we are willing to pay for happen faster. |
yeah! you know, like power pool customization. or sashes.
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hooray for water blast, nature affinity, and symbionic/bionic/whatever armor being officially announced tho! yaaaay!
i have a name saved. i hope sorcery has fx that are all around generic theme-fitting and not too many runes, maybe more sparkles than runes. i always loved fairy-god-mother and her bippity boppity boo.
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Originally Posted by daveyj3
i always loved fairy-god-mother and her bippity boppity boo.
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back on topic, why make sorcery by itself. I'm surprised we didnt find a mutation or whatever else pool along with this one.
I won't mind terribly if they charge for it, but I sincerely hope they do NOT limit it by the character's origin. If I want to have a Tech character take some Sorcery pool powers, that should be my choice.
Now if they want to do something like the Blackwand/Nem staff where it does bonus damage if you have the right origin, I wouldn't mind that. But at least give me the option to pick the powers I want.
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haha gosh, i am flattered! |
Originally Posted by RevolverMike
Sometimes I get the impression your a little bit of a fairy yourself. Forum magic and all.
back on topic, why make sorcery by itself. I'm surprised we didnt find a mutation or whatever else pool along with this one. |
i think that they are just going to release them periodically into the market, not all at once, but rather one after the other like the origin costume packs before Freedom, so im guessing that they will all happen but only sorcery has been ''started"
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Originally Posted by daveyj3
haha gosh, i am flattered!
i think that they are just going to release them periodically into the market, not all at once, but rather one after the other like the origin costume packs before Freedom, so im guessing that they will all happen but only sorcery has been ''started" |
And excellent point comparing these pools to the origin costume sets. It makes sense.
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Unless they can release 5 at once, which I'm sure they wouldn't want to do even if they had the manpower, I don't see any kind of origin bonus or restriction being considered.|
Originally Posted by Kyasubaru
I won't mind terribly if they charge for it, but I sincerely hope they do NOT limit it by the character's origin. If I want to have a Tech character take some Sorcery pool powers, that should be my choice.
Now if they want to do something like the Blackwand/Nem staff where it does bonus damage if you have the right origin, I wouldn't mind that. But at least give me the option to pick the powers I want. |
However, I think they may restrict it to only one of these special pools being in a build at a time, to limit "pay-to-win". After all, if they aren't better than at least some of the existing power pools they won't sell. No one is going to shell out for another Presence Pool...
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Originally Posted by RevolverMike
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I really have no problem with them charging for it, my only worry is HOW much. A 5 power Pool set should NOT cost the same as a full 9 tier powerset, especially if a lot of the powers are drawn from other sets.
I can see 400-500 points, NO more than that.
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I'm getting the strangest inclination that Sorcery will have a bunch of mez powers.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
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Maybe ST Sleep, ST Immob, AoE Stun, AoE Sleep, ST Hold?
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Originally Posted by Darkdragon405
I'm getting the strangest inclination that Sorcery will have a bunch of mez powers.
Maybe ST Sleep, ST Immob, AoE Stun, AoE Sleep, ST Hold? |
I thought we already knew the powers it had. All I remember was a fly clone and some type of mezz protection.
Yeah, all the powers have been revealed (albeit not officially). There are pictures of the power descriptions if you Google Search for them, but they keep getting deleted from here.
It's all over the map (two attacks, one travel power, one ally buff, one self-buff), but no Mez powers (except a chance for knockdown in one of the attacks).
Hopefully this post is vague enough that it won't get crushed by the mods.
I really want to know what it is, but my builds are pretty tight as is. I guess my toons do not need a travel power any more...lol
lvl 50 - Elec/WP/Mu Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - Dark/EA/Soul Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - EM/Nin/Soul Mastery Stalker
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And at any rate, even if someone googles them they should keep in mind that since the powers aren't even in Beta yet they could be drastically changed.
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Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
Yeah, all the powers have been revealed (albeit not officially). There are pictures of the power descriptions if you Google Search for them, but they keep getting deleted from here.
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Does it talk about stuff you could find out by logging into beta?|
Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
Hopefully this post is vague enough that it won't get crushed by the mods. |
No?
Not vague enough then.
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Playing devil's advocate: that pool set would be available to all characters, all archetypes, all builds, all the time. That's incredibly more versatile than a set you choose once at the start of character creation and never get to 'spec out of/into. That adds quite a bit of value despite having fewer powers. Also keep in mind that many full 9-power sets usually have one or two really specialized or situational powers that won't be taking up a slot in the pools (buildup, taunt, tier-9 situational powers, etc) and the actual functional difference is even smaller.
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Originally Posted by Benchpresser
I really have no problem with them charging for it, my only worry is HOW much. A 5 power Pool set should NOT cost the same as a full 9 tier powerset, especially if a lot of the powers are drawn from other sets.
I can see 400-500 points, NO more than that. |
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Playing angel's advocate, since anyone can use it, they can expect to sell more units, which should keep the cost down...
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Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Playing devil's advocate: that pool set would be available to all characters, all archetypes, all builds, all the time. That's incredibly more versatile than a set you choose once at the start of character creation and never get to 'spec out of/into. That adds quite a bit of value despite having fewer powers. Also keep in mind that many full 9-power sets usually have one or two really specialized or situational powers that won't be taking up a slot in the pools (buildup, taunt, tier-9 situational powers, etc) and the actual functional difference is even smaller.
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True, but you charge what the market will bear, not what it costs you to make. If you can make a widget for $.25, but the market will pay $5, you charge $5. |
Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Playing angel's advocate, since anyone can use it, they can expect to sell more units, which should keep the cost down...
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(... and get ready to adjust the price when the $1 knockoffs appear.)
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... and realistically, will more people buy it just because its available to more characters? I buy a new powerset, I roll an alt. I bought 1 set. I buy a pool power, I roll no alt. I use it across a whole mob of my characters. I see the additional value, but the devs are only paid once. The only additional sales this would provide would be to people that don't have any interest in alt-ing or rerolling, so they're not buying the full powerset.
... and from a marketing perspective, there are additional benefits to the full-power-pool. When rolling and leveling an alt, there are other potential sales (new character slots, enhancements, boosters, etc) that aren't there when you're just augmenting an existing character. If anything, this would encourage them to subsidize a full archetype powerset (and recover the cost elsewhere).
I found this, not sure if I'm suppose to post this or not, but if I'm not, im sure it will be taken down. In any case...ummm...here are the powers for Sorcery.
(Deleted link) I figured I'd probably get in trouble if i did show it.
Not everything new needs to have a market price attached to it, some of this stuff needs to be introduced into the "game" and not the "market".
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.