Discussion: The Special Black Friday Sale has been extended!

Yep. I just respec'ed my main with KinCombats too...
Ah well, those can go to my SS/Inv Brute. MWAHAHAHAHA.

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Yes, Please let us Buy a 50.
Yes, let us buy inf or merits or recipes.

I would love this simply because it would put RMT'ers out of business.
I would rather see Paragon get the money than the scammers.

As far as your second part where is the attraction to do it the "hard" way over just buying it if you have cash....that's called life. Some people have to work hard to get a little, others do nothing but open thier wallets. Stop trying to keep up with others and enjoy your journey.

Using all made up numbers:

If we assume the normal selling price is $5 and they sell 500 a month, they make $2500.

Say the item goes on sale and is going for $3. People like that so about 800 people buy it. That's a lot more than usual. Unfortunately that nets the company $2400. It does not benefit them to keep selling it at that price and they may as well just go back to the old price.

If however it goes on sale for $3 and more like 1000 people buy it, they're making $3000 a month. Now maybe it'd be a good idea to just keep selling it at $3.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

You can already buy some sets on there. Complete sets. Not "recipes" but hey.
With Paragon rewards you get merits.
Both on the market and via Paragon Rewards you get the Windfall temp power which magnifies your earning potential. Essentially selling Inf.

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Isn't the whole point of a video game is that it's NOT life? If I want "life" l can step outside my door. At any rate, we are a long way from everything being purchasable on the market. But I still think that selling enhancements on the Paragon Market sets a bad precedent. Most of the stuff on the market I could care less about, but the invention system is a crucial pillar of the game system. If it becomes, more and more, an element of the Paragon store, I think the long-term impacts are going to negative, both for the community and the company. It has nothing to do with me "keeping up", and everything to do with wanting the game system to remain meaningful.

If you believe that powerleveling, farming, exploiting, influence buying and all of the other things people do to work the Invention system instead of play the game as intended are good things, then yes, it's a "crucial pillar" of this game.

IOs are optional, not required to play his game and shouldn't be so tedious or time-consuming to get a hold of at this stage. If they're optional (as the Devs have said many times), then it does not matter if they sell them in the store, in fact, in a game this alt oriented, being able to buy them is just another character slotting option.

With the inevitable "pay to win" nonsense that seems to have more heads than the Hydra, The only time being able to buy IOs in the store EVER matters would be in PvP and, having been around that for the better part of half a year now, I assure you that the hardcore "PvPers" would:
A) Not care at all.
B) But whatever they wanted anyway, just like everyone else.

The enhancements on the market are BETTER than what you can earn in the game. It's frustrating that players cannot earn the same level of power in the game.

In the past, I bought a few of the sets market previously released just because they're better than other versions, but I won't make that mistake again. It seems to have encouraged the company to sell items that are even more powerful.

Between this and the gambling packs, I'm pretty disillusioned with CoH right now.

Leveling up is optional. Doing task forces is optional. The incarnate system is optional. That doesn't justify anything.

and that is one of the problems currently in the game. if all support and dps toons are building for capped defense, they are gimping on what they are supposed to be doing. It is also the reason we have so many bad tanks lately.

Did they actually log the toon in after they brought it back? The rename token shows up upon log in. There is nothing to say it worked at the character screen.

Lisa.

Lisa gives Doughboy a hug.

I agree about the potential problems with the, how did you put it, Gambling Packs." But I am happy that some of the better sets are in the store. The prices for LOTG recharge, and the Holy Healing Trio, in WW are truly obscene.

If the prices in WW were not as high as they are, I would be concerned about selling them in the Paragon Market too, but, because they are the price they are in WW, this is the only way I can get a goodly amount without doing a million months worth of Tips and SSAs.

And respecs, respecs are on sale. Happy, happy, happy.

Lisa trudges out of this thread muttering about the shocking sticker prices in the WW.

To be fair.

1. The market-bought enhancements can't be sold off-account
2. The market-bought enhancements can't be traded off-account
3. The market-bought enhancements can't be boosted
4. You have to spend REAL money to get them

Honestly, these are some fairly hefty drawbacks.

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Done?
As you can see, you can speed up gaining levels with cash. You can also get them via Paragon Rewards.

And this:
As you can see, you can speed up gaining Inf and some drops (I think purple recipes were mentioned) with cash. You can also get them via Paragon Rewards.

You forgot the same can be said of the XP boosters.

I don't sell or trade most of my enhancements, except for drops. If I buy something with merits, I use it. So those "penalties" are non-existent for me. As for boosting? I've not used my existing boosters.

The last though... Yes, that is a hefty penalty.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

This happened to me when I transferred a guy over to my main server. Thing is, though, I clicked the rename button (I didn't have any free rename tokens available to me), and it allowed me to rename him and remove the 1.

Staying alive is not gimping. I don't know what gave you that idea. And that is not the earmark of a bad tank. A bad tank dies a lot.

Your suggestion that people should only play how you think they are "supposed to" is blatantly offensive.

Well, I didn't realize leveling 25% faster was the same thing as being handed a 50.
>.> lol

Wow, you guys are tools and I am incredibly annoyed at this. You're invalidating the playing time of a lot of players by selling LOTG and Kinetic Combats. This makes me angry. The minute you start selling purple and PVP IO's for irl money I swear to god I will cancel my subscription and never come back.

Thank you for posting a response that was more than "What do you care what people spend their money on", and actually made some valid points. I still disagree, though, for a number of reasons.

Powerleveling, exploits, gold-farming: these problems are not unique to CoH. It's the company's job to do their best to minimize the negative impacts they may have on the game. Selling enhancements on the Paragon market isn't going to cure this. You might, for example, start seeing gold-farmers trying to undercut the prices on the Paragon market: "5 sets of Kinetic Combat only $15! blah blah blah." Maybe not, but I wouldn't put it past them. I guess we could go back to the days before the invention system, and have everybody slot only SO's and Hami-O's. But who would want this? Certainly not the people running the Paragon Market, now that they've seen that people are ready to pay real money for these items.

"IOs are optional, not required to play his game and shouldn't be so tedious or time-consuming to get a hold of at this stage." Optional? I suppose, but how else are you going to improve your characters after you've gotten, let's say, all your Incarnate abilities? Tedious to get a hold of? I would disagree, but that's just my opinion. If they are really too difficult to get, there are better ways to make them more available: increasing their drop-rates, lowering their Merit costs, allowing players to buy recipes that are "under" their level range. Offering them up for sale on the Paragon market seems the worst solution.

As far as the game being "so alt-oriented", this is not true for every player. Many players only focus on a few (or even one or two) characters.

I feel exactly the same way.

It depends on the price point. Conversions are already wonky with merits, A merits, inf, ect but the game is easy to obtain influence and purchase things already. If anything it lowers demand, lowers the price point, and gets people to invest RL money into the game that, ideally, will be put into the game for staffing, trials, new sets, and BUG FIXES. If it's done as a money grab and we start seeing fewer sets, updates, and the game gets stagnant I will question it.

I do like how they are account locked so people can't convert RL money into inf.

Hi. I have one char, that I barely play a few hours a week. Pleasure to be acquainted with you. I have neither the time nor the patience to set up a char to use IOs without spending very large spans of personal time. Being able to use a mixture of amerit generation and store purchase is great. And unlike many, I totally disagree that KinCom sets _are the bomb_. Sure, they are nice for some rare occasions, but thats just those occasions. People complaining in this thread seem to have a case of tunnel vision. Maybe there is more to this game then softcapping your s/l whatever.