"Null the Gull, please supress knockback in my powers"

As a gravity controller one of my favorite powers is Wormhole. Flashy animation, huge activation time to make me feel like I'm charging up something special and forces me to be careful when I use it. On top of that the mechanics are awesome too, teleport my foes AND stun them? Yes please!

The only real downside is the highly unpredictable knockback at the end. I'm familiar with many of the knockback tricks, flying and aiming down being the most common. But in spite of trying to figure out exactly where to position myself relative to my target, and where to position the exit portal relative to where I want them to end up, Wormhole remains hard to master.

I realize that completely nullifying or re-working knockback isn't feasible as some players enjoy or even depend on it. But the introduction of our friendly extradimensional gull gives me hope for the future.

And all the Peacebringers and Energy Blasters would rejoice! Well, mine, at least.

Allow me to swap to knockdown, and I would love those sets. As is, teaming can be problematic when using the AoE attacks is counterproductive to the effectiveness of the team.

Not a-gonna happen. I'd love it to, mind ya, at least for some of my characters, but Knockback in powers is set to be knockback by design, and in some cases, is considered a balancing factor because the power would be considered too strong otherwise. This was specifically stated to be the case for Solar Flare, at the very least.

So as annoying as it can be in some cases (my Gravity 'troller would really rather keep it, honestly), it's here to stay.

Please devs, make this happen. I'd roll an energy blaster (again) in a heartbeat.

I don't want it to happen.

Doubt Null will ever be able made to reduce the kb magnitude ... or rather which number/amount are you going to reduce it by to make that happen? Enough to drop it to .67 or less from Shockwave, or Gale or a Nemesis Staff or ... you get the idea. Nevermind that number for each individual power is also going to be different as well depending on relative levels (hello purple patch). Is that shockwave vs a -1, +0, +2 or +4 foe? Given that Knockdown and Knockback are NOT different things other than the value in the magnitude I think we have an issue with removing only some kb.

People are so crazy about having to have the best DPS possible.

I actually like knockback. You just have to be smart about it.

However, I guess it wouldn't effect me as long as there is a choice involved.

Well, and kb greater than 0 and less than 1 is knockdown. It should be possible to put a a constant mag -100000% or something debuff to change all kb into less than mag 1 regardless of the level of the original attack. It would be a lot easier than coding each powers base kb mag to .67 depending on the Null flag.

Totally agree with Sailboat. A large percentage of the people who complain about knockback,are the people who would like to have it the easy way and nothing else,and don't bother to learn how to use it effectively. It CAN be a good thing. It just requires a little more effort then just clicking buttons and spam all your AoEs all the time.
Sometimes you can unleash area attacks,sometimes it's best to focus on single targets. My main is an energy/energy blaster. When doing an ITF,for example,i focus on surgeons and bosses. You may notice that surgeons often reamin far from the rest of the spawn,therefore untouched by all the AoE flying around. I snipe them,the start pummeling on the bosses with my ST attacks. It's a great satisfaction,and guess what,many times it's the scrappers who end up corpse blasting running around while i take my time and pulverize the big guys.
Yes,sets with inherent kb are harder to you use and sometimes you must restrain yourself. It also means they can add ulterior layers of mitigation on top of damage if you learn your way around the apparent drawbacks.
The only exception woud be peacebringer's solar flare. Kb on that power makes no sense,and it's almost impossible to use it in a team without annoying everyone. I annoy MYSELF sometimes when playing solo. Then again,if it's used as a mitigation tool with added damage for dangerous situations instead of insisting on spamming it to kill mobs evrytime,the whole thing changes

Totally disagree with Sailboat. I play a PB alot, and I can handle my KB really well. Usually, *handling* it means not using Solar Flare at all when on teams, or making sure you get on the edge of groups so you don't scatter them 360 (and you only score hits on 1/2 to 1/3 the mobs you could have) - woohoo good times!

Look, personally, I wish that KB was an integral and beneficial part of the game, and that most powers in the game caused KB. It's fun and exciting.

But since most powers by DO NOT, and in this game AoE is King, Knockback is far and away a nuisance to most players than a benefit. It just so happens that most players are nice and/or really don't care so they don't gripe about, but my bet is that most, if they could choose, would rather it not be there.

When someone says that Knockback as a limiting factor on a power to keep it from being too powerful; that right there say it's a handicapping tool. And since this game is already rediculously easy, a handicapping tool like this doesn't make the game more challenging - it makes it more annoying.

edit: I really try to play KB 'correctly'; that said, I've NEVER had anyone thank me for helping the team with my KB. I've had many ask (politely or otherwise) to stop doing it, no matter how careful I was with it.

/SIGNED! to the OP's suggestion

/unsigned on the OP's suggestion.

If Null is able to turn your kb down I want him to be able to turn mine up. I get that knockup/down is great and knockback is "the sux0r" but I am in agreement with Sailboat. KB doesn't adversely affect ranged players at all and from what I've seen, the only people it really hurts is the melee folk who can't find the "f" key on their keyboards.

Very much do not want to lose knockback! I love Knockback! It's what makes playing Coin so much fun! it's half the skill of the set, learning how to use knockback effectively, using it to push a villain into the wall to make things better for the scrappers, using it to push the attacker away from the defender who's being hit, flying above to knock them down.......great fun!!

Saying that, if it's made optional, that's cool as well, least people can decide for themselves.

Null the Gull makes it optional, that's the idea.

This is a great idea. A lot of players don't know how to use KB, and they end up scattering mobs ... which is worse for teams when they can handle tightly bunched groups (for AOE, debuffing, etc.).

Since it's Null, you would have a choice. If you love KB and/or know how to use it, don't visit null. If you want to disable KB, you can visit the bird.