What is a 50 supposed to do if there aren't enough people for Trials?


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Gone for about a year, just got back. Unfortunetly, Pinnacle is dead as a door nail. What is a 50 supposed to do if there isn't anyone else playing?

If there any way to earn Incarnate XP, or get the materials needed to craft Incarnate stuff if you have to go solo?


 

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Outside of the Alpha slot there is no way for you to craft what you need oustide of the Trials and even that process would be slow and tedious..

My suggestion to you is this.. Find out the best global channels for your server. That is usually where the action is. Go to the Pinnacle forum here and find out the better globals and where people tend to meet for things like trials.. Some servers use Pocket D.. Virtue tends to use RWZ.. some people use the Midnighters Club.. I have rarely found a server that is totally dead.. Maybe some have smaller populations but there are most likely people on the server..

After you run a few trials and you get the hang of how it goes dont be afraid to start one yourself using the global channels to recruit. This is what I am going to do because I dont want to wait forever for one to start.. Many people simply do not want to start teams ( and I have been this way myself ) but usually you will pick up some experienced players who can help as well.


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Good suggestions if you can find the people. If the premise of the original question is true, the options are limited. A couple of suggeestions would be to go farm for purple IO/shard drops or work on your accolades. Badge hunting is another option. I work on my SG base or stocking it up with IOs for other heros to use. You could always start another alt to level up on the slow times.


 

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Glah...

I used to love CoH because whether you solo'ed or teamed, it was fun and rewarding, even if you just jumped on for a few missions. Now, unless you can gather a large group and a significant chunk of time... not so much.

Sad that the game has moved to this...


 

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Before Alpha+, all my 50's did was run an occasional Itf, or collect dust. They're slowly adding an end game, and it's helped bring a lot of my toons out of retirement.

As for solo, just make sure to run the arc in ouros. Once alpha's unlocked you can slowly get shard drops from mobs as long as they're your level or higher. The WST is nice for smaller teams, and after you slot up Alpha, you can start breaking new Notices down for 40 threads to use towards the other 4 Incarnate slots.


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Originally Posted by Stardanno View Post
Glah...

I used to love CoH because whether you solo'ed or teamed, it was fun and rewarding, even if you just jumped on for a few missions. Now, unless you can gather a large group and a significant chunk of time... not so much.

Sad that the game has moved to this...
First, welcome back. You seem to be but one of many returning players, and that is a good thing.

Second, _nothing_ has been taken away in the year you have been gone. Go do what you used to do before the incarnate system.

Thrid, Pinnacle is my home server, and at the times I log on is usually the fourth or fifth most heavily loaded. Join the PinnBadges channel to get in on the action.


 

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Glah...

I used to love CoH because whether you solo'ed or teamed, it was fun and rewarding, even if you just jumped on for a few missions. Now, unless you can gather a large group and a significant chunk of time... not so much.

Sad that the game has moved to this...
Err... Explain to me how iTrials have deleted the rest of the game? I don't understand this argument. There's still 100s of story arcs, tons of task forces, pretty much all of which you can do through Ouroboros... You can solo those, you can team for those, you can even just go to PI and run some scanners. That part of the game isn't gone. It never will be gone. The only thing that's changing is they're ADDING an end-game so that those of us who had 50s that were gathering dust and doing nothing for us can actually do more, and become even bigger and stronger than they were before.

Enjoy the game that's still here. It's not going anywhere. They're still sprinkling in some new arcs and TFs every issue as well. If you've been gone for a year, check out the new Admiral Sutter and Mortimer Kal TFs. Levels 20-40. I believe there's a couple new story arcs out as well. Check those out. Then just return to what you were doing with your friends. Only do the iTrials if you feel that's something you want to pursue. And if you can't get anything going on your current server, then maybe you should weigh your priorities: staying on your server where all your friends and toons are, or switching to a higher populated server where you can experience the new end-game. You have options, moreso than you did a year ago. And your options are only getting greater.


 

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pinnacle is not dead at all, its lower pop than virtue and freedom and maybe a few other servers but its not dead. pinnacle is my home server also and almost everything is done through the pinnbadges global channel. might want to put that on your tab. last night i ran two itfs on two of my 50s, one baf and saw several more start up throughout the night that i wasnt able to make cause i was in the itf at the time.

as for what a 50 can do without trials. well you can work on a build, run itf which is alot easier to organize than a trial and you get incarnate shards for it to work on your alpha slot. run ae architect missions for tickets for salvage and recipe rolls and turn those into cash, i didnt even try last night and made 200 million on recipe drops just from running itfs so I can get my build right for my defender. if all else fails just go work on another character and run a few missions and watch pinnbadges till a trial starts up. like i said about 5 or more started up last night and i know one of them we didnt even get a full raid to run it so we were looking for more people before we ran it. there is plenty going on, sounds like you are not in the right channels to get in on the runs.


 

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pinnacle is not dead at all, its lower pop than virtue and freedom and maybe a few other servers but its not dead.
While the part of your post I cropped was all good advice, whether or not any server is "dead" depends on when you can play. I know how dead the normally higher population servers are in the wee hours of the morning when I can play (generally only Virtue has much going on), so I'd be surprised if the lower pop servers are very much better anytime other than prime time.


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Err... Explain to me how iTrials have deleted the rest of the game?
They didn't mean the rest of the game had been deleted. Over 50% of people playing are running on level 50s doing end game content(trials, WTFs), farms, or tip missions. Since there is no viable solo path for doing Incarnate content, players are forced into doing trials and WTFs. Yes, there is other stuff to do, but most people aren't doing it and if you do want to advance in Incarnate there is only one real pathway.


 

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While the part of your post I cropped was all good advice, whether or not any server is "dead" depends on when you can play. I know how dead the normally higher population servers are in the wee hours of the morning when I can play (generally only Virtue has much going on), so I'd be surprised if the lower pop servers are very much better anytime other than prime time.
In what I consider prime time, it took me an hour to get a team going for a ITF on Victory when it was a WTF. To me, that's worthy of the "dead" tag. And yes, I used the known channels for the server as well. I would love to play there more, but it's frustrating to do so.


 

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If speed of finding a team is the only consideration I do recommend Virtue and Freedom, it is normally quick and easy to team on either when the other servers are slow. I play on Pinnacle because I know the folks there. I use the player ratings for every team or TF I am on and I get to know who is who and how they play. On Virtue I was part of a SG, and got the same experience, but it has dwindled and now the only community I can say I really know well is on Pinnacle, so I almost always play there. The game is more fun for me when I play with people I know, even if it is only virtually.

As others have said, join the PinnBadges channel and I think you will see there is quite a bit more than just trials going on, even in the slow times you can often get something rolling by just calling out on the channel. Good luck and good hunting!


 

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Also, as far as the trials are concerned, the Pinnacle "hang out" seems to be the Rikti War Zone. (I think some other servers might use Pocket D).

I am able to log in an get right into a league about 50% of the time just by logging in the RWZ.

And I am a very solo-oriented player.


 

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ive been playing on victory for about 5 years now and not really had any trouble forming anything

i do with there were some alternate methods to getting the incarnate stuff because i despise the lag in the trials and how it screws you over if you dc because of said lag


 

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Originally Posted by darkangel32 View Post
pinnacle is not dead at all, its lower pop than virtue and freedom and maybe a few other servers but its not dead. pinnacle is my home server also and almost everything is done through the pinnbadges global channel. might want to put that on your tab. last night i ran two itfs on two of my 50s, one baf and saw several more start up throughout the night that i wasnt able to make cause i was in the itf at the time.

as for what a 50 can do without trials. well you can work on a build, run itf which is alot easier to organize than a trial and you get incarnate shards for it to work on your alpha slot. run ae architect missions for tickets for salvage and recipe rolls and turn those into cash, i didnt even try last night and made 200 million on recipe drops just from running itfs so I can get my build right for my defender. if all else fails just go work on another character and run a few missions and watch pinnbadges till a trial starts up. like i said about 5 or more started up last night and i know one of them we didnt even get a full raid to run it so we were looking for more people before we ran it. there is plenty going on, sounds like you are not in the right channels to get in on the runs.
Good advice darkangel, that's exactly what I was going to say.

Pinnacle is definitely not dead. Join PinnBadges, and I or another mod will unsilence you as soon as we see you there.


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Originally Posted by Doctor_Gemini View Post
While the part of your post I cropped was all good advice, whether or not any server is "dead" depends on when you can play. I know how dead the normally higher population servers are in the wee hours of the morning when I can play (generally only Virtue has much going on), so I'd be surprised if the lower pop servers are very much better anytime other than prime time.
I think there is a little distinction that needs to be made. Saying a server is dead suggests (at least to me) that the server is dead at all times, when it is usually just one person's perspective.

Question: Is Pinnacle dead?

Answer: No. From the way people use it, dead seems to mean that teams can't be formed, people can't be interacted with, and there is generally a feeling of emptiness on the server itself. In Pinnacle's case Taskforces, Trials, and regular and irregular mission teams are abundant. The catch? Joining these events are a *lot* easier if you join the Global Channel for that server's events (PinnBadges) and know when the peak time is.


Question: Is Pinnacle dead to me (A player who plays at 12:00pm CST)?

Answer: Perhaps. It varies between days, but most of the time very few events form up when I am on, and I end up soloing. It sure 'feels' dead to me.


Question: Is Pinnacle dead to me (A player who plays at 10:00pm CST)?

Answer: Certainly not! Every single time I log in, something is forming and people are chatting in the global channels. I have to beat the team invites off with a stick. Super Groups run multiple trials, people are out hunting Giant Monsters, teams are advertising for more members...it is glorious!


When I first started playing on Pinnacle I did so during my prime time which coincided with Freedom's. I felt like the server had very little activity even after I joined PinnBadges, however I later found out that the server just peaks at a different time. The community is great and the events are abundant, you just need to know where to look for them.



Also, I believe the developers have expressed an interest at looking into a solo advancement path for those who wont/can't/don't-like-to group if it is any consolation.


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Originally Posted by Stardanno View Post
Glah...

I used to love CoH because whether you solo'ed or teamed, it was fun and rewarding, even if you just jumped on for a few missions. Now, unless you can gather a large group and a significant chunk of time... not so much.

Sad that the game has moved to this...


just as a minor quibble with your post, the "game" you refer to is exactly the same, everything you could do solo before, you can do now, it's just the new post lvl 50 stuff that changes the mechanics of the game. i agree that they need to get on the ball with an acceptable solo option for post 50 content, but what is here now in no way detracts from all the previous material.


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Originally Posted by Doctor_Gemini View Post
While the part of your post I cropped was all good advice, whether or not any server is "dead" depends on when you can play. I know how dead the normally higher population servers are in the wee hours of the morning when I can play (generally only Virtue has much going on), so I'd be surprised if the lower pop servers are very much better anytime other than prime time.
true, i play during prime time mostly from 6 or7 pm to 10 or 11 pm cst and i never have a problem getting into groups or raids or even help if i need it. I dont play early morning or late nights and when i do im normally soloing a low level alt or just goofing around trying to refamiliarize myself with the game. I quit several years ago because i thought the game was dying out as I could never find a group to do anything but after coming back a few months ago this game is still alive and kicking although its not as active as it was several years ago back in 2004 or 2005. a bit harder to find groups maybe but not impossible.


 

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I, too, have a home on Pinnacle and have very little problem finding teams for level 50 content. About the only conflict I run into is if there is a Hami Raid or Mothership Raid running. On occasion they post the raids on the server forum. And you can also try posting there to drum up some activity yourself.


 

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Originally Posted by Stardanno View Post
Gone for about a year, just got back. Unfortunetly, Pinnacle is dead as a door nail. What is a 50 supposed to do if there isn't anyone else playing?

If there any way to earn Incarnate XP, or get the materials needed to craft Incarnate stuff if you have to go solo?
Server transfer. Thats what I did many months ago when they had free transfers. I have like 2 characters still on pinnacle to move.


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In what I consider prime time, it took me an hour to get a team going for a ITF on Victory when it was a WTF. To me, that's worthy of the "dead" tag. And yes, I used the known channels for the server as well. I would love to play there more, but it's frustrating to do so.
And I got a LRSF going on Victory in under 5 minutes and turned away 3 people because we filled on a Thursday morning when it WASN'T the WST and there were at least two other TFs forming at the same time. If it's taking you that long to form a team, you're doing something wrong.


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Originally Posted by Stardanno View Post
Gone for about a year, just got back. Unfortunetly, Pinnacle is dead as a door nail. What is a 50 supposed to do if there isn't anyone else playing?

If there any way to earn Incarnate XP, or get the materials needed to craft Incarnate stuff if you have to go solo?
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First, welcome back. You seem to be but one of many returning players, and that is a good thing.

Second, _nothing_ has been taken away in the year you have been gone. Go do what you used to do before the incarnate system.

Thrid, Pinnacle is my home server, and at the times I log on is usually the fourth or fifth most heavily loaded. Join the PinnBadges channel to get in on the action.
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pinnacle is not dead at all, its lower pop than virtue and freedom and maybe a few other servers but its not dead. pinnacle is my home server also and almost everything is done through the pinnbadges global channel. might want to put that on your tab. last night i ran two itfs on two of my 50s, one baf and saw several more start up throughout the night that i wasnt able to make cause i was in the itf at the time.

as for what a 50 can do without trials. well you can work on a build, run itf which is alot easier to organize than a trial and you get incarnate shards for it to work on your alpha slot. run ae architect missions for tickets for salvage and recipe rolls and turn those into cash, i didnt even try last night and made 200 million on recipe drops just from running itfs so I can get my build right for my defender. if all else fails just go work on another character and run a few missions and watch pinnbadges till a trial starts up. like i said about 5 or more started up last night and i know one of them we didnt even get a full raid to run it so we were looking for more people before we ran it. there is plenty going on, sounds like you are not in the right channels to get in on the runs.
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Good advice darkangel, that's exactly what I was going to say.

Pinnacle is definitely not dead. Join PinnBadges, and I or another mod will unsilence you as soon as we see you there.
and /this

Oh the things that can be accomplished by simply joining some global channels.


 

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Second, _nothing_ has been taken away in the year you have been gone.
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Err... Explain to me how iTrials have deleted the rest of the game?
You're both missing the point. He's not saying things are being taken away.

He's saying that people who wish to advance their level 50 characters are at a SEVERE disadvantage if raids aren't an option for them.

It has f**kall to do with "the rest of the game".



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You're both missing the point. He's not saying things are being taken away.

He's saying that people who wish to advance their level 50 characters are at a SEVERE disadvantage if raids aren't an option for them.

It has f**kall to do with "the rest of the game".
Yep. This and some servers have low pops despite the constant fanboys chiming in.