I have run 10 trials today, I never want to run them again. Am I alone?


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Solo and conversion method of the Incarnate system is a fools choice.

What would you rather do: Go get some Ice Cream or be at the center of a Nuclear Blast.

Most people would pick the ice cream.
I dunno- seems that many people have been giving feedback that 10 Trials in 1 day is a rather foolish choice, too.

The "solo and convert way" is slow, but there's no reason not to run other stuff to break up the monotony of the trials and use what resources you get.

Seems like you're determined to be miserable to yourself and to try to convince everyone else to be miserable with you. Have fun with that.


 

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Lambda gives about 50% IXP per run - I unlocked Interface after 2 runs.
All enemies around Lambda Complex defeated. All enemies within courtyard defeated. All gun emplacements destroyed. Security bot destroyed. 10 Grenades and Acids recovered. All portals disabled. Marauder defeated. Checked iXP for Interface: 30%.


 

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I lost count of how many trials I was on yesterday, but I haven't gotten bored yet.


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All enemies around Lambda Complex defeated. All enemies within courtyard defeated. All gun emplacements destroyed. Security bot destroyed. 10 Grenades and Acids recovered. All portals disabled. Marauder defeated. Checked iXP for Interface: 30%.
I got 53% on my first ever run


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Well, I gave it my best shot - and after 5 trials (only 1 of which was successful) I'm not feeling it. I've seen what people are getting for their troubles but the recharge time is off-putting and I've been told that 2 of the slots are limited to trials solely. I still think I can wait on this content. I'm at the top of my game with the alpha slot - I think that's all I really need right now (esp if I'm not running any more I20 trials). When I21 rolls around, maybe there'll be more to motivate me getting these slots but right now... Eh, I can leave it to the completists.


I do have two new concerns though:

1) What's will all the chase sequences? First Battle Maiden, now both new trials? Wasn't there a time when everyone bemoaned having to chase NPCs?

2) Whatever happened to Devs pushing back on the "Follow the Leader" mentality? Wasn't that the #1 why Hamidon was retooled? So why is it being encouraged now?


 

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The "solo and convert way" is slow
It's not "slow". "Glacial" would be generous.


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I succeeded on a Lambda with my Emp, and came out closer to the 30% than the 50% (may have been under it, even). Failed one on a team of six with my Ill/TA, and came out over 50%. I'm assuming the difference was one team vs two splitting defeats.


(I have to say too that my first try with my Emp was PAINFUL. I had no clue what was going on, TP was not the best for navigation, and trying to traverse the inner lab area w/o getting repeatedly ganked was impossible. My Ill thankfully has SJ and Sup Invis.)


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I don't think anyone realized how driven people would be to get these incarnate powers. I didn't realize it, until it went live.
Have you ever met players in this game before? This is par for the course.

I'm guessing it'll be about two weeks (at the outside) before most of the people who really want this stuff will have it and will stop playing these trials because the next Issue will have an entirely new set of salvage, merits, threads, shards, influence, etc., so no one will be interested in this "old" junk. Which is why I don't buy the "this content will always be there" argument. It'll still be in the game, but the mob is going to abandon this stuff as quickly as they took to it and soon it will be quite difficult to find teams to run it because everyone will be off doing the newer trials.


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Have you ever met players in this game before? This is par for the course.

I'm guessing it'll be about two weeks (at the outside) before most of the people who really want this stuff will have it and will stop playing these trials because the next Issue will have an entirely new set of salvage, merits, threads, shards, influence, etc., so no one will be interested in this "old" junk. Which is why I don't buy the "this content will always be there" argument. It'll still be in the game, but the mob is going to abandon this stuff as quickly as they took to it and soon it will be quite difficult to find teams to run it because everyone will be off doing the newer trials.
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The speed of gathering needed salvage the solo way has nothing to do with being bored running the same content over and over x10 IN ONE DAY.

If you know that new content past what we just got is a while down the road from going live, what's your hurry doing the new stuff? Do you think that being tricked out to the max will suddenly make these trials better if you don't like them much now?

You like cake, you eat one piece, maybe two if you're a pig. You don't eat the whole cake in one sitting, and then complain later that you're sick of cake and expect any sympathy.


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Well, I gave it my best shot - and after 5 trials (only 1 of which was successful) I'm not feeling it. I've seen what people are getting for their troubles but the recharge time is off-putting and I've been told that 2 of the slots are limited to trials solely.
You weren't told the whole story. The only thing about those slots that are limited within the trials themselves are the Incarnate Shifts. The powers themselves work like the Alpha slot powers do.


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That is my only real fear. That by not participating in the new trials 'RIGHT NAO!!' I'll be so far behind by the time the new stuff comes out I'll never be able to participate...

The rumors flying around that 'The Coming Storm' will require a level shift is really concerning me as well. We've been anxiously awaiting this Epic Event since Ouro came out years ago. All this time eagerly anticipating it and now I'm starting to wonder if I'll even have a chance to enjoy it.
As I don't plan to become an Incarnate with any of my 100's of toons I'll be HIGHLY ticked off if The Coming Storm is locked behind a curtain for Incarnates only...

Part of the great thing about COH has been it's mantra of You can be more powerful if you want (i.e. Purples) but that it isn't mandatory to enjoy the content. If you didn't wanna bother with IO's you weren't suddenly locked out from participating in all the new content being released. This philosophy seems to have changed now and if 'we' want to see any of the content being released this year and most of next we have no choice but use the system. That fly's in the face of 6 years worth of making the game accessible to all.

I don't mind the Endgame being grindy, or group oriented, or even certain events being tied into them. When it's optional. But to hang a carrot in front of us for years (The Storm) only to find out when it finally arrives that I've locked myself out of it by not spending a year grinding out ixp would really, really... be a let down.


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I saw a Citadel forming on Virtue today.... Constant ITF's of course. If you were having fun two weeks ago, all that stuff is still there.

I have 86 characters planned. Only half have actually been made. Most are lower level. Only 8 are 50.

Now I am very attached to my main 'personal' character. For years before GR, that character sat around because he was 50 and there was nothing to do with him. No more advancement. Now I have that advancement. I am playing a lot of trails. I will probably get sick, but only my main and my farmer p/l character will be doing them. If I get bored, Ill go back to leveling my other characters.


 

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You weren't told the whole story. The only thing about those slots that are limited within the trials themselves are the Incarnate Shifts. The powers themselves work like the Alpha slot powers do.
Good to know.


 

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Have you ever met players in this game before? This is par for the course.

I'm guessing it'll be about two weeks (at the outside) before most of the people who really want this stuff will have it and will stop playing these trials because the next Issue will have an entirely new set of salvage, merits, threads, shards, influence, etc., so no one will be interested in this "old" junk. Which is why I don't buy the "this content will always be there" argument. It'll still be in the game, but the mob is going to abandon this stuff as quickly as they took to it and soon it will be quite difficult to find teams to run it because everyone will be off doing the newer trials.
I really doubt that's going to happen, especially if there are still specific rewards tied to them. Unless you're saying it's quite difficult to find a team to do a STF.


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As for me, I spent update day looking at the various new slots, researching and planning out how I'd go about getting them. The day after launch, I did an Admiral Sutter TF. It was only the day after that that I even considered running the trials.

I've been making about 3 to 5 trials a day total to unlock the slots. So far I have Judgement unlocked with a tier 3 slotted, and Interface with a tier 2. I'm at 90% toward unlocking Destiny, and around 14% for Lore.

What I want to get done at minimum is to have all the new slots unlocked and with at least a Tier 1 in them. After that, I'll be doing the trials when the mood strikes me, just like I do with any other content in the game. When I was working on my Alpha slot, it was pretty much the same thing; getting the slot unlocked quickly, then letting the shards drop at their own pace, with the occasional TF to get a specific component. I only today got the last shard I needed to craft my tier 4 Alpha boost.

And as for the "converting shards is slow" arguement, who ever said it had to be all shards or all trials? Now that I have my tier 4 Alpha, I no longer have any use for Shards except to convert them into Threads, but the trials will still be my main way of making progress on the slots, with shard conversion supplementing it.

It did take me a while to get my tier 4 Alpha, and will probably take time to get my other slots maxed out, but that's not a problem to me. The game will still be here tomorrow, despite what doom-criers would have us believe.


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Its not that I can't get a team
Its not that I cannot finish a trial (that bug was finally fixed).
I AM making progress...

Its just that I am bored out of my mind repeating the same two bits of content repeatedly.

I haven't even finished the first judgement slot on one character, and I am not having fun doing these trials anymore.

Am I alone in this?

I can't even bear to log into the game because I know all I will be demanded to do is incarnate content, which is just the two same tired boring trials.


Hmm, I'm trying to find where you're told to run 10 trials in a day.. nope.

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I'm guessing it'll be about two weeks (at the outside) before most of the people who really want this stuff will have it and will stop playing these trials because the next Issue will have an entirely new set of salvage, merits, threads, shards, influence, etc., so no one will be interested in this "old" junk. Which is why I don't buy the "this content will always be there" argument. It'll still be in the game, but the mob is going to abandon this stuff as quickly as they took to it and soon it will be quite difficult to find teams to run it because everyone will be off doing the newer trials.
Sure it'll drop off in a few weeks but I doubt it'll be abandoned until the next tier of raids comes along (and by tier I mean raids that drop something other than Incarnate Threads).

Now at that point we probably will see the current raids get largely abandoned but that doesn't mean people who miss it now are locked out (or if it does I shall be very annoyed with the devs). The solution used in a certain other MMO is the idea of limited gear resets. When a new tier of raids comes out they make it easier to get gear equivalent to the previous tier. This allows new players to get geared up enough to participate without having to run through the old raids (which are semi-deserted).

Now the nature of the Incarnate system means that the devs have plenty of options here. The simple solution is when they release the Hybrid, Genesis, Stance and Vitae slots add new recipes for the current slots that use the Alpha slot components. in that way a new player can run level 50 TFs and the WST (which should be easy to find teams for) to "gear up" for the new raids.


 

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I originally intended to do just one a day, so as not to burn myself out. Then I realized that after 3 days, I was already burning myself out. So I tried to cram pretty much every raid I'll need one one character into this weekend, so I won't have to do any again for a while. Almost made my "goal", too. It's going to be a while until I bother to work on my second, but I have a feeling that I would be burned out already either way, so at least now I'm burned out and made progress.

It still sucks, but at least I have something to show for it, I guess.


 

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These threads are pretty boring now.

See what I did there?


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I got 53% on my first ever run
That's because the early runs hardly ever succeeded so people ended up farming the reinforcement and resupply spawns. Which resulted in more iXP.

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I can see how a lot of folks could get tired of all the runs, I would too if I did 10 runs very close together. But overall I'm enjoying the runs. I think i'm enjoying this carrot, but most runs without a break for me, have been 3.


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qr, if you ran 10 trials on a day this nice, you are very likely alone.

serious answer, well, you likely burned yourself out, im spacing mine out to prevent this, maybe max 6 a weekend, that way it doesnt feel like a job. if you dont practice restraint, then its kind of your own fault.

tonight I didnt even do any trials, just ran with some friends, told some dumb jokes, and stomped redcaps. might run one or 2 later if i feel like it, probably wont. your favorite food would become a chore to eat if you ate it for every meal, same with game content, obsessively grinding will kill your enthusiasm, take it at a comfortable pace, dont feel like you have to keep up with the jonses.

though i gotta ask, was it with your stalker? becasue i remember a few threads(ok, more thana few..a lot more) where you said your stalker would never get teams, i noticed on liberty i have run a few successful lambdas with some stalkers, so i wondered if you noticed similar inclusiveness.


 

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Having way too much fun fighting 54s and becoming overpowered atm.
The groups I hang with have these down to a science, 25-30 minutes tops.

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