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Since allowing other people to drop the mission would have zero impact on your playstyle and enjoyment, that seems like pure spitefulness. No one is trying to stop you from gathering a big team and cranking the difficulty slider to the max, so why are you so determined to spoil someone else's good time?
Saying I'm "determined" to spoil someone's good time would imply that I would go out of my way to campaign to make the arc non auto-completable. I have no intention of doing so, and in fact, I SAID that I had no intention of doing so right in the post you're quoting from, which you seem to have conveniently left out of what you quoted.

I simply said that I would have preferred it to be non auto-completable from the beginning. That does not mean I think it should be changed to be that way now.

I just don't think it's especially right for people to auto-complete the entire arc and get the alpha slot, while not actually having DONE anything. Why are people so obsessed with not doing something in a game that they are paying to play in the first place?

Funny that while everyone else in this thread is stating their preferences and opinions, I'm apparently not allowed to do the same.


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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Whenever I team with my VG mates (surprise, I'm in a VG! I'm a co-founder of it, in fact), they always get confused because they don't monitor the Help Channel; meanwhile, I am constantly on the help channel, chatting randomly and giving advice and answers to anyone that asks. I spend almost as much time on the help channel as I do bashing enemies, to the point where last night I kept a GM waiting for about five minutes because I got distracted by a question on HC.

I solo almost exclusively, only teaming with my VG mates, but I still utilise the game's multiplayer aspect constantly. Soloing doesn't mean I'm not being multiplayer. It just means I'm playing an awesome super-powered character that can take out small armies by herself.


 

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Funny that while everyone else in this thread is stating their preferences and opinions, I'm apparently not allowed to do the same.
Look, ClawsandEffect, it's like this: there are only a certain number of slots available for people to state their opinions and you just showed up too late. Next time, jump into the thread earlier and we'll let you state your preferences.


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I solo almost exclusively, only teaming with my VG mates, but I still utilise the game's multiplayer aspect constantly. Soloing doesn't mean I'm not being multiplayer. It just means I'm playing an awesome super-powered character that can take out small armies by herself.
A social soloer... well, now we've seen it all.


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A social soloer... well, now we've seen it all.
We're more common than you'd think. Global channels are a god-send for us.


 

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I just don't think it's especially right for people to auto-complete the entire arc and get the alpha slot, while not actually having DONE anything. Why are people so obsessed with not doing something in a game that they are paying to play in the first place?
I'd just as soon the Alpha Slot was unlocked when a character dings 50 (and that it didn't have anything at all to do with that silly Well of Furies business). Then the (revised) Ramiel arc could be about obtaining the initial boost thing - hoo hah, here's your first big giant boost, hope ya didn't go for damage if you're using lots of IO sets, bwahaha! - the actual entire ready-made equippable thing, not just a shard. That would suit me fine.

So there.


 

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A social soloer... well, now we've seen it all.
I'm sociable and I always play solo except when I don't.


 

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We're more common than you'd think. Global channels are a god-send for us.
THAT is all.


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Look, ClawsandEffect, it's like this: there are only a certain number of slots available for people to state their opinions and you just showed up too late. Next time, jump into the thread earlier and we'll let you state your preferences.
Page 4 isn't early enough? That's odd, people that have been debating it jumped into the thread after I did.

I was only responding to the person that quoted me out of context. They snipped one sentence and accused me of spitefulness, while ignoring the rest of that paragraph where I said that I saw no reason to change it now. I actually hadn't planned on posting in the thread again until I saw that.


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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Page 4 isn't early enough? That's odd, people that have been debating it jumped into the thread after I did.

I was only responding to the person that quoted me out of context. They snipped one sentence and accused me of spitefulness, while ignoring the rest of that paragraph where I said that I saw no reason to change it now. I actually hadn't planned on posting in the thread again until I saw that.
Every thread is different, of course, but page 4 was far too late for this one. In some other threads you can state your opinion up to ELEVEN pages in. Those are good ones. This isn't one of those, sorry.


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A social soloer... well, now we've seen it all.
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We're more common than you'd think. Global channels are a god-send for us.
i'm another one, and i'm sure there are lots more.

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Sorry, I laughed out loud here. Didn't know there WAS such a service in this game.


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Man, who slotted this thread for Unlimted Radial Doucheness? 'Cos it sure spread it around a lot...
Actually was thinking Hit-a-Nerve Radial Paragon, but we're probably playing different toons.


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got around to actually playing the Trapdoor mission last night.
My fire blaster popped some reds and a big purple, walked up to him and had him whimpering for mommy in no time.


*shrug*


I can see how the structure of the mission would work against those who can't put up big orange numbers, but as noted there are a variety of tools available to the inveterate soloist that would mostly neuter its difficulty.

On to the loved & loathed Honoree mission tonight.


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Every thread is different, of course, but page 4 was far too late for this one. In some other threads you can state your opinion up to ELEVEN pages in. Those are good ones. This isn't one of those, sorry.
Wow to think I almost quit the boards due to certain people. This quote pulled me back (sorry for those that was glad to see the back of me), who are you to decide when someone can and cannot state there opinion. These boards are for all to state there opinion as and when they see fit. That is not for you to decide.

My opinion on this thread is:-

A: Harder content has increased chances of teams for me which is a positive.
B: TF's are at the moment starting up all over the place for me another positive.
C: People who generally solo all the time are leaning towards teaming abit more than they used to due to wanting to acquire new rewards in game. This has got me a whole load new list of friends that before I wouldn't have met, and return we have gained from a teaming experience.


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Wow to think I almost quit the boards due to certain people. This quote pulled me back (sorry for those that was glad to see the back of me), who are you to decide when someone can and cannot state there opinion. These boards are for all to state there opinion as and when they see fit. That is not for you to decide.

My opinion on this thread is:-

A: Harder content has increased chances of teams for me which is a positive.
B: TF's are at the moment starting up all over the place for me another positive.
C: People who generally solo all the time are leaning towards teaming abit more than they used to due to wanting to acquire new rewards in game. This has got me a whole load new list of friends that before I wouldn't have met, and return we have gained from a teaming experience.
I think you may want to get your sarcasm/comedy detector fixed if you took Ironik seriously.


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Saying I'm "determined" to spoil someone's good time would imply that I would go out of my way to campaign to make the arc non auto-completable. I have no intention of doing so
Whether you really, really want to spoil it, or just kinda want to spoil it, my question remains: Why?

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I just don't think it's especially right for people to auto-complete the entire arc and get the alpha slot, while not actually having DONE anything.
"Right" in what way? Do you see this as a moral issue?

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Why are people so obsessed with not doing something in a game that they are paying to play in the first place?
Not all parts of the game are created equal, and not everyone enjoys the same things. Finding ways to minimize the time spent on the parts you find tedious or otherwise un-fun is pretty common. Is it wrong for me not to do the Outbreak Tutorial every time I roll a new alt?

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Funny that while everyone else in this thread is stating their preferences and opinions, I'm apparently not allowed to do the same.
I never said you weren't entitled to speak your opinion. I'm just trying to figure out what's so objectionable about an option that would enhance other people's enjoyment, while still allowing you to play exactly the way you want. Seems like a win/win to me.


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Look, ClawsandEffect, it's like this: there are only a certain number of slots available for people to state their opinions and you just showed up too late. Next time, jump into the thread earlier and we'll let you state your preferences.
Man, that's a crappy opinion right there.

Heh, I've got to add that to my list of awesome examples of hypocrisy.

"Don't tell people how to play"--an inherently flawed idea; somewhere along the same lines as "don't tell people how to post."

It's like when someone says not to try to force your beliefs of right and wrong on other people, too--trying to force your belief (of it being wrong to force beliefs on people) on someone.

How about when someone complains that other people complain too much? I'm pretty sure I got all but one of these examples from this topic. :P


 

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I'm pretty sure I got all but one of these examples from this topic. :P
Well, it's certainly clear that we should all make sure we're not doing the right thing before we don't do it.


 

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I guess maybe I am a little confused about why everyone is so upset.It seems the whole argument is if you should be able to do the arc and open the alpha slot solo. First of all there is not a single mission for the alpha slot that can't be done solo. I am not talking about having some uber powered toon either. I have done this arc 3 times solo and all of those toons have only common IO's. If you get stuck on something then there are plenty of temp powers that you can use to help make things easier so you don't have to team with anyone. If you don't want to spend the time getting said temp powers and don't want to spend any time asking for help or finding a team then not being able to complete the arc is completly your fault and has nothing to do with bugs or things being to hard. If people are not willing to put forth a little effort then why should they get the rewards.


 

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Man, that's a crappy opinion right there.

Heh, I've got to add that to my list of awesome examples of hypocrisy.

"Don't tell people how to play"--an inherently flawed idea; somewhere along the same lines as "don't tell people how to post."

It's like when someone says not to try to force your beliefs of right and wrong on other people, too--trying to force your belief (of it being wrong to force beliefs on people) on someone.

How about when someone complains that other people complain too much? I'm pretty sure I got all but one of these examples from this topic. :P
Wow people's comedy/sarcasm detectors are inherently broken it seems.


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Wow people's comedy/sarcasm detectors are inherently broken it seems.
Maybe like smoke detectors they just need new batteries?


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.