Holacaust

Originally Posted by Ironik

Only because it's gated content and they removed the best solo tactic. I don't understand why you guys CARE if people want to solo it. How does that impact your enjoyment of the game? Seriously, why does that matter to you? I don't care if people farm the AE because it's not like they're "stealing my fun" or anything.

I also don't get why some have called the rest of us liars when we report having significantly different experiences when fighting Trapdoor. I think enough people have reported the variations in experience to convince you that we aren't just making stuff up to vex you.

Originally Posted by Bad_Influence

The problem here is that you are talking as if pulling Trappy into the control room nullifies all his powers. Haha, not so fast: he has that one-shot melee power that seems to have a 100% chance to hit. It certainly hit my Defender and it hit him good. Multiple times.



Also, once again your reasoning is wrong: if the developers intended Trappy to be fought with all his clones up, we would not be able to kill them. See what I did there? OK Trappy is ranged AND melee. If you forget that he will be happy to remind you.

All this is academic to me, because I won't be running anyone else through this for a good long while. For which I feel great relief.

Originally Posted by Bad_Influence

I should not even have to explain this.... smart pullers never target the boss, they target the minions, kill them one by one and then they take down the boss. If the boss comes along that is one thing, but the boss is never the intent of the pull. Except perhaps for Rommy.

Good gravy, what next. Claims that killing the towers one by one in the STF is "an exploit" because the developers intended him to be fought with them all up? They must have, after all they placed Recluse in range of them so taking out the towers is an "exploit!!1!!11"

Massive eye-roll here.

Originally Posted by Mirai

My impression has been that all the future Incarnate stuff (with the possible exception of unlocking slots) will be in the form of TFs and raids. But I might be mistaken on that. And if I'm not mistaken, maybe we can talk the devs into adding in some soloable stuff.

Originally Posted by Bad_Influence

On many maps, the boss/AV is surrounded by a group of lesser NPCs. Since that boss is in the midst of a group, its safe to assume that the developers intend that he be fought... in the midst of that group.

And then on the eighth day, God I mean the developers created many and various SNIPE tools, so that that very dangerous boss can be removed from his group of supporters and defeated alone. The "pull" is a standard gaming tactic, and intimating that it is an "exploit" makes me laugh out loud.

If pulling Trapdoor away from his minions is bad, then *all* pulling of bosses away from their minions is bad, its an "exploit" and needs to be stopped ASAP!

I hope you can see how extremely silly such a supposition is.

Trapdoor is not a special snowflake, he does not deserve such extreme protection and I think his being protected in such a fashion is silly. Not to mention dangerous, because we don't want the developers getting the idea that pulling is bad.

Unless we're Nalrok, I guess. Who knows.



In all deadly seriousness I ask, then what are they? Because right now, squishys are being asked to stand toe-to-toe with Trappy and have not only him hitting them with everything he has, but all of his bifurcations hitting them too... and remember, the faster you kill them the faster he spawns them [Or so it seems to me]. All this on top of his killer +regen. If your squishy does not have KB to deal with him, you're sorta, well... doomed.

Now that's a recipe for success! /endsarcasm

Originally Posted by Bad_Influence

The problem is that killing the bifurcations means that he INSTANTLY respawns them, and they seem to respawn faster the faster you kill them.



Thank you God that you are not on the development team. They're bad enough, we don't need your mindset infiltrating them.

If tactics that involve the use of tools equals "exploit," I expect to see the following things removed from the game ASAP:

*all inspirations
*all snipe tools, including the Blackwand and Nemesis Staff
*shivans
*nukes
*Vanguard HVAS
*PvP zone heavies
*...and really, enhancements.

At the bottom of your slippery slope is the notion that ANYthing that helps you win a fight is a cheat, and therefore an exploit. Good luck with that line of reasoning.

Originally Posted by Mirai

Hmm. So you're saying that once I get my slot filled I should just repeat the same level 50 missions I've done before, but at a higher difficulty to simulate Incarnate content, even though none of that conent has anything to do with Incarnates? I don't know... I think I'd be better off making my own Incarnate arcs in the Mission Architect. I could even just ignore the canon and make up my own versions of what being an Incarnate means. Something to think about, I suppose. It will be a long time before I fill the slot on one of my characters, so I'll have plenty of time to plan some stories. It might not work too well, though, because I can't get more shards from the AE to upgrade my Alpha buffs.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

The meaning of "exploiter" in a gaming context is universally negative.
Hacker, glitcher, exploiter- they all mean "cheater".

If it's incorrect, as yours is, then no it shouldn't.
If it is correct, as mine is, then yes it should.

Are you ESL?
Because that would explain a lot about this thread.