Massively Antisocial-player Online RPG?


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Originally Posted by Mirai View Post
Say, I haven't encountered that yet. My Night Widow got clobbered by Back Alley Brawler some time back (after a long and valiant struggle), but I was able to auto-complete that mission. I'll have to look into that Statesman mission.
I'm not sure if it can be auto-completed or not. She didn't have too much trouble with Recluse, due to a combination of Demonic Aura, Mind Link, Elude, and a whole bunch of Good/Phenominal Luck inspirations (which is similar to how my db/elec brute tackled Recluse). So based on that I figured she'd have no problem with States either. Boy was I wrong.

I suppose I could get help to complete the mission, but I like the idea of my Widow being so bad-a** that she can take on Recluse and States single handed and win.

edit: I'd also like to note that I run with, at most, common IOs. Maybe (probably) a Widow with the right sets wouldn't have any problems.


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I suppose I could get help to complete the mission, but I like the idea of my Widow being so bad-a** that she can take on Recluse and States single handed and win.

edit: I'd also like to note that I run with, at most, common IOs. Maybe (probably) a Widow with the right sets wouldn't have any problems.
I mainly stick to common IOs at that level too. My widow Riffle is at 40 now, and will be taking the Statesman mission at 45, so I can easily level a ways past it if I can't beat it right away or auto-complete it.


 

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
There are a ton of interesting folk playing this game. I'm rarely able to team myself, but I find idiots and jerkwads to be a rare exception rather than the rule.

And this is from pure PUGing, accepting whatever blind invites come my way while I'm checking my traps at the market.

Team or don't, play the game however you like.
But don't try and justify it by playing up 'annoying people'.
My reasons for seldom teaming were listed in another post.

I would remember interesting people if I ever met any on a blind invite PUG, (the only kind I've ever joined), but all I recall were the annoying ones. Just an observation, not a justification.


 

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I love how this thread started as "You should team if you have problems, people who are having problems" and devolved into "I AM ENTITLED TO SOLO EVERYTHING, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, I AM DESERVING OF ALL THINGS I REQUEST!"

Sad. I'm going to go back to smashing apart Malta.
Seriously, who said any of those things, other than yourself?


 

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*pauses, realizes this means there's a chance of encountering GG on a team*
*runs around flailing like a muppet*
Going solo is your only escape


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To GuyPerfect: Please tell me you play on Virtue, sir. I would like to shake your hand.
This. Well put Guy.

On a similar note I'd be willing to help just about anyone if they need a hand on a mish. Seeing how I mostly PuG/solo on one of my 50's I'm usually not to busy to lend a hand. I just helped a random guy the other day through the Alpha arc because he couldn't quite put out enough dps to drop trapdoor. If someone needs a hand with a mish on virtue feel free to send me a tell to @Boomie.


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I'm afraid all 11 of my characters are on Triumph. And 10 of them are level 50! (-:


 

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Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
This. They give Solo players opportunities, they never said it would be easy.
to be fair, the ways the portals continually spawn regardless of the player's presence (as opposed to say a demon portal that needs to be aggroed) caused people to think it was bugged.

Plenty of people beat it solo and it can be autocompleted for the people who can't, so it's really not a roadblock to any soloers there.


 

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Seems like everyone around here thinks their playstyle is the "correct" one, and everyone else should just shut up and get with the program. PvPers don't understand why everyone doesn't want to PvP. Marketeers don't understand why everyone doesn't want to play the market. AE farmers don't understand why everyone doesn't want to farm. Min-Maxers don't understand why everyone doesn't want to min-max. And PuG junkies don't understand why everyone doesn't want to PuG.

People like what they like, and if solo players want to encourage the devs to make the game more solo-friendly, they're absolutely "entitled", by virtue of the fact that they pay their monthly fee, just the same as you.
I don't care how people play but I do get annoyed when they complain about not getting the benefit of a different side of the game they refuse to touch.

If you don't like PvP don't do it, but don't complain when you are getting your shivians and one of the few PvPers spots you and smacks ya around.

Don't like marketing have fun with your drops, but don't complain about not being able to buy what you need or get piles of inf from those who have it to give away for shinnies.

Don't like to team don't ***** about TFs or rewards designed to be use don team based goals being harder to get solo.

Don't like to Min/Max? Neither do I! But don't complain about how someone with the same power sets who does makes your 50 look like 45.


 

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Well, for those who feel brave enough to ask for a little assistance on Union, there's the "Villains for Hire" channel.

Don't actually know if there's a "Heroes for Hire" channel. Probably is

Teaming isn't for everyone, but if you're getting frustrated when solo'ing then just remember that there's usually someone around that can help out just for a mish or two.


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Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
It's awesome that works for you.
The situation isn't black/white and your solution does not apply to all players in all circumstances.

For example I have to go afk often, at totally random intervals for random amounts of time. Sometimes I can team with the expectation of being to finish a couple of missions or a short TF, but most of the time i can't.

Rounding up the A-Team doesn't do you any good if you have to skip out at the mission door.

I've run into plenty of others who're in the same situation as myself.



I play on Triumph, I play on Freedom, I play on Virtue. Triumph is a great server with a fine community and I love it dearly. Freedom & Virtue present vastly more opportunities to team, as either a member or a leader.

More players > tighter communities when it comes to finding a team at 4am.



I'd rather fart poetry than speak the lifeless platitudes you deal in.

The simple fact is that this is an MMO... Massively Multi-Player Online Game - if it was a Massively Single Player game you'd maybe have a point. The basic premise is that it's a team game and if your schedule doesn't fit that then it sucks to be you.

As for your point that it's more players beat a tighter community - that's highly debatable: I've a friend who plays on Defiant despite being based in Vegas and she has no trouble picking up a team at 4am UK time.



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If you don't like PvP don't do it, but don't complain when you are getting your shivians and one of the few PvPers spots you and smacks ya around.
Can I complain if I don't like PvP, but people are telling me to get shivans or I'm a stupid doo-doo head? Not in those exact words, but it has happened.

You know, once upon a time every mission which had an archvillain in it spawned that as... Well, as an archvillain. As we all know, AVs are really not something that is designed to be soloed and even the people who can solo them anyway will tell you it's largely not worth the time and effort for anything but seeing if you could. None of us expect to walk up to an AV and solo that, not even Johnny Butane, I don't think.

And yet archvillains kept coming up in regular content, and all the damn time in City of Villains. Every time I met one, I had to drop what I'm doing, spend time and effort gathering a team of complete strangers and then ending up leading a team I really didn't want to lead. Allowing archvillains to scale down into elite bosses is, without a doubt, one of the single biggest reasons I'm still here. It meant I was highly unlikely to ever run into another mission I couldn't solo, given enough effort and preparation.

Granted, there were a few elite bosses I couldn't solo, like that Smashing-resistant Ballista on my really crappy Stone/Stone Brute, but that was the Brute's fault more than anything else. You know what the problem was with those? Every time they came up, none of my friends were online. One time I had to yank I think it was EvilGeko off the old Forum Cartel channel, who made a character specifically for the sake of helping me, and I'm still grateful for that. But most of the time when this happened, I had to just invite random people...

And I don't really want to team with random people on days when I don't feel like teaming at all. Here's the thing - some like to talk about social vs. anti-social, but I'm probably one of the most social guys out there. I team when I want to BE with other PEOPLE. I object, however, to teaming for the sole reason of boosting my team size to add more warm bodies to the list. This isn't socialising. This is riding on the bus with random strangers. This is asking a random stranger the time.

In short - if I'm going to team, I want it to be because I want to be with other people, not because the game is forcing me to speed-date random passers by.

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I have nothing against team content, if it's tagged as team content and takes a team to start. But if the game allows me to start the content solo, I should have at least some expectation that I can finish it how I started it.


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Can I complain if I don't like PvP, but people are telling me to get shivans or I'm a stupid doo-doo head? Not in those exact words, but it has happened.
Uhm so get a Vanguard HVAS? No PvP required. j/k


 

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I have nothing against team content, if it's tagged as team content and takes a team to start. But if the game allows me to start the content solo, I should have at least some expectation that I can finish it how I started it.
That's reasonable enough, but unless your a twin or some other mutation when born, you start life out which contains solo content...sucking on a bottle and needing a diaper change are rough AVs to tackle though. Can't live without a team of at least one other person to feed you and wipe your a** for awhile. There are times in real life when you don't need help at all, but sooner or later you're gonna need a Controller or Tanker to help you get a loan or to take some aggro off of you.

The game seems pretty similiar.


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There are times in real life when...
Last I checked, this game wasn't real life. Did something happen when I wasn't looking?


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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To the OP: *applaud*

That is all.


 

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Last I checked, this game wasn't real life. Did something happen when I wasn't looking?
I don't think so...but I was just pointing out besides the flying and laserbeam eyes (and technololgy is getting us there slowly but surely), it's really the same concept from a social standpoint.

If they are comparable, I can understand by your apparent attitude why you would be making a point about teaming/being social in a video game.


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I don't think so...but I was just pointing out besides the flying and laserbeam eyes (and technololgy is getting us there slowly but surely), it's really the same concept from a social standpoint.

If they are comparable, I can understand by your apparent attitude why you would be making a point about teaming/being social in a video game.
All I'm saying is I play games to get AWAY from real life. Yes, I know social interaction is part of real life, and indeed a part of the game. All I'm asking for is an option to NOT play the game like I'm forced to live my real life.

Like I've said before - I don't mind team-only content, as long as there's soloable content to go with it. If I can't run something without a team, I don't complain, I just don't run it. To this day I've never done an Eden trial, and despite what I keep hearing about it, I don't intend to.

The problem arises when you have a bottleneck, such as the Incanrate arc. The ONLY way to become an Incarnate is that one arc, and to make it not soloable means that there is suddenly no alternative. Now, if there were this arc to become an Incarnate and a TASK FORCE to become an Incarnate, I would not complain one bit about being unable to solo the TF. I'll simply pick between that and the (I assume) very soloable arc.

I'm asking for options, and it gets on my nerves when people come up to me insult me to my face and tell me that for some things, I SHOULDN'T have options, the anti-social punk that I am, and I should HAVE to team because, well, what the hell is wrong with me if I don't want to at least sometimes. Thing is, the times I feel like teaming never coincide with the times I'm FORCED to team.

Give me options, and I will not complain.


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Give me options, and I will not complain.
Whether it's in game or real life, as long as it doesn't impact me much I don't take anything away from people that want to complain about content...you have the right to do so.

I just see things a little differently b/c more times than not, I'm overseas and not able to play as much as I'd like to. I can't remember the last time I found anything I wanted to complain about in CoX b/c I'm usually just thrilled to play.

I hope the devs give you the options you are looking for man.


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Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade View Post
I'm not sure if it can be auto-completed or not. She didn't have too much trouble with Recluse, due to a combination of Demonic Aura, Mind Link, Elude, and a whole bunch of Good/Phenominal Luck inspirations (which is similar to how my db/elec brute tackled Recluse). So based on that I figured she'd have no problem with States either. Boy was I wrong.

I suppose I could get help to complete the mission, but I like the idea of my Widow being so bad-a** that she can take on Recluse and States single handed and win.

edit: I'd also like to note that I run with, at most, common IOs. Maybe (probably) a Widow with the right sets wouldn't have any problems.
Yeah I had exactly the same problem with my Widow. Taking out Recluse wasn't too bad, but Statesman at the end of the VEAT arc was nigh impossible. It is auto-completable though fyi


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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Your reply is fail for many reasons. OP was not whining. He was telling people to swallow their pride and accept some freaking assistance when they can't solo with their ubermegasoloer.

*goes to the game to see if the name "Ubermegasoloer" is taken*


 

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I solo a large percentage of the time, and I can complete the vast majority of the things I do while solo.

That said, if I run across something that I can't solo, I don't have a problem asking someone to help me with it.

As far as this particular arc goes (we are still talking about the Incarnate arc, right?), I think it's kind of a good thing that it is difficult to solo. I mean, do you think gaining godlike power should be so easy that any random chucklehead can get it done with no issues at all?

It is the end game content that everyone and their grandmother has been clamoring for for years now. And people are complaining that it is too hard to solo it. I guess that sums it up really. People want their end game content, but it better be just as easy as everything else in the game or the complaints will start immediately. (as they seem to have done)

It is something you do for a tangible reward that actually DOES make your character more powerful, so it stands to reason that it would be harder than just collecting a few merits is (since merits, in and of themselves, do not actually make you more powerful).


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Our difficulty slider should go down to -4 as well as up to +4, and We should get the option to scale AVs down to Bosses.

Scale rewards accordingly, and everyone's happy.

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As far as this particular arc goes (we are still talking about the Incarnate arc, right?), I think it's kind of a good thing that it is difficult to solo. I mean, do you think gaining godlike power should be so easy that any random chucklehead can get it done with no issues at all?
Characters do not gain godlike power in that arc. Gaining the 'godlike power' is evidently going to take months and months of playing and possibly several Issue releases.

Unlocking the Alpha Slot is like obtaining a mounting board for the trophy Minnow you're planning to catch later on. First you've got to get the gear, the bait, and find the proper fishing hole. Then you've got to do the actual fishing. But until you catch that trophy Minnow, that mounting board is just a plank of wood.

That's my analogy and I'm sticking to it.