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Originally Posted by Knightfox
That might be the case except for the fact that BAB was one of them, that speaks toward something else. But by all means, keep up your drumbeat of blindly extolling and supporting anything and everything that NCSoft does. I'm sure some simple minded folks with poor reasoning skills will be happy to dance along.
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There are a world of potential reasons why someone would get laid off or leave a job, your insistence on considering only the most dire is instructive.
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I think that's what bothers me the most about this.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Everyone else gets to at least say good bye.
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I can see that only with the qualifier that people would make life decisions based on that.|
Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Making ANYONE the bad guy just makes everyone look stupid.
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So far, a good portion sounds like a water cooler discussion born from a few facts. I'm not seeing a problem with positing possibilities under that scenario.
As long as no one jumps on people with differing views.
Also, i think the forums can do with a lot less references to people with subpar "reasoning skills" don't you think?
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Me, too. BaB deserved a chance to say goodbye. It all feels so wrong.
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Originally Posted by Feycat
I think that's what bothers me the most about this.
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Koschej didn't get to say goodbye. Although it could be argued that he wasn't the same caliber of installation as BAB.
Come on guys in this craptacular economy its always a good thing to get laid off prior to finding another job as oppossed to having another job lined up before getting laid off...the trolling on both sides of the fence is fun to watch except in this case...guess ive included myself in this as well sry BaB's!
Wishing you the best BaB's...we will miss your work and thanks for giving a shout out to the forums from time to time...your next employer is in for a treat!
I never got the chance ot say something grossly inappropriate to him.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
What I can tell you is that NCSoft has committed a major chunk of cash to Paragon Studios. I think if Going Rogue turns out to be a sales disappointment, NCSoft will play the CoH2 card, and risk a bit more money now. |
je saist your pronouncements are dumbfounding, you don't know anymore then a guy selling hot dogs at a ballgame, though the comic relief as always is appreciated.
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Best of luck to all those who were affected by this layoff. Here's hoping you're all gainfully, and happily, employed again soon.
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Originally Posted by Obsidius
Koschej didn't get to say goodbye. Although it could be argued that he wasn't the same caliber of installation as BAB.
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Wasn't in the same hemisphere, you know that. Aside for lead animation, Chris was the best public relations envoy this game has had before and after the Cryptic split.
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I think the world could do with a lot fewer people with subpar reasoning skills. YMMV but with elections in a few weeks it's just painful to hear them on the news and in political ads.
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Originally Posted by Pebblebrook
I can see that only with the qualifier that people would make life decisions based on that.
So far, a good portion sounds like a water cooler discussion born from a few facts. I'm not seeing a problem with positing possibilities under that scenario. As long as no one jumps on people with differing views. Also, i think the forums can do with a lot less references to people with subpar "reasoning skills" don't you think? |
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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this is where ditching broadcast teevee entirely for the streaming delights of Roku pays off big.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
YMMV but with elections in a few weeks it's just painful to hear them on the news and in political ads.
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I have very reliable source* that says that all 9 of these employees were stealing desks and bathroom fixtures during off-hours for months before they were caught by the confused contractor that had to replace a toilet for the 4th time.
The "laid off" talk is just to avoid headlines reading "Paragon Employees Gone Rogue!" They don't need that kind of bad press for their new product.
*My imagination
My theory is just as credible as any of the others floating around in these threads. I'll really miss BaB too, but there's no reason to get out the pitchforks, or expect Paragon to fold. It's business as usual.
My heart goes out to the recent lay-offs.
Oh, wait a minute...
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DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! NC SUCKS! BLEAARRRGH!
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Says the fellow who couldn't stop calling me a "troll" for disagreeing with his views until the mods started slapping him around?
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Despite my better judgement, i had to check to see if you had something interesting to say, but alas.
But since i did, you sure you didn't reply to the wrong person...where did i exactly call you that term?
From what I understand many of the positions were known to be temporary. People may wonder why you would take a job that you know will not last, but the answer is simple. To get a foot in the door.
I will miss BABs, he was always willing to entertain my ideas, and I bugged the hell out of him when weapon customization came out. I still never got the Cimeroian (sp) gladius with my DB scrapper, but it is cool.
His willingness to answer will be missed greatly. That is where David is winning me over, he is willing to communicate.
We are very lucky to have great Devs, I am not sure any other MMO can boast a community like ours, that is why it is such a shock to lose one of them.
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Exactly. Good luck to those who have left! I am also looking forward to see what comes next rather than worry about what will happen next. CoH2 would be terrific, but so would seeing i25 eventually. Only time will tell I guess, but I am optimistic about it for sure.|
Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
Very sad news for all those concerned who are now looking for work.
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Don't fret. I'm sure he saw you say enough grossly inappropriate things to other people to satisfy him completely...
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Originally Posted by LISAR
I never got the chance ot say something grossly inappropriate to him.
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Yet another example of this company hiding from controversy. The attitude that is building over there is causing me a great deal concern. I'm already disgusted that we seem to have to pay for costume pieces from here on, and the stone wall is getting old quick.
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Hey Folks,
Jay was unaware that his post was a violation of company policy and it had to be removed. This had nothing to do with the contents of his post, but no commentary on personnel matters is allowed. We strive to allow as much freedom as we can in allowing you to discuss matters within the Message Forum Rules and Guidelines, and ask you respect those rules when posting on this subject. We support you in discussing this subject, but if the rules cannot be respected we will be forced to shut this thread down much to our regret. With respect, |
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Most of your comments on any topic I have a fair understanding of range in utility from wrong but harmless to wow, I hope nobody tries that at home, they could blow their house up.|
Originally Posted by je_saist
And you are saying this to the person who has repeatedly, and accurately, described the design of the game, proven time and time and again superior ability in troubleshooting issues, and taken time to instruct other players in how the game works and why it works like it works.
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Your drive-by in the market forum yesterday is a case in point, with the comical assertion that 95% of the level 50s in the game "struggle" to kit themselves out with SOs and the head-scratching statement that buying stuff from other players 'off market' is somehow against the TOS, which completely ignores the reality that 'off market' transactions were all we had for the first 8 issues.
You do have a very good opinion of yourself, which is something I guess.
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Let's not forget je_saist's recent foray into the Dom forums, Goat.
Sad to see BaBs go.
Hopefully, the deal was mutual and/or positive at best.
Best of luck to all the affected folks. We appreciate your service.
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The company policy is quickly becoming the iron grip of a thinly disguised military dictatorship. It's certainly not a policy most western MMO customers are comfortable with|
Originally Posted by theOcho
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If I'd have joined the game today instead of 2006, they wouldn't have gotten anything after my free month
Please make sure that the higher-ups are aware that there is displeasure amongst the end users of their product
There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"
Well he seems to still unable to disagree without throwing in veiled (actually not-so veiled) personal attacks.
When you choose to interpret the normal behavior of game developers industry wide as an omen of disaster for Paragon Studios specifically you're wearing your bias on your sleeve.
Forums aren't monologs, assertions are open to counterargument.
Why are you so uncomfortable with that reality?
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