All Things Art: 'Lost' Costume Pieces
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Posted on: 2010-07-01 12:44 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Please bring back the original versions of trenchcoats, before the lower half was ballooned out.
The current version that looks like your character is wearing an invisible bustle below the coat looks awful, more so on the split coat option. Unfortunately I have no pictures of the old ones.
Japanese pants don't appear to be an option for the ladies anymore. I'm not sure the reasoning behind this, but it sure would be nice to use them instead of baggy.
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Well there's been quite a few parts which leaked out, most recent being the Syndicate pattern for pants (now grandfathered on two of my characters). I guess that one just slipped through but there's a few NPC patterns which get withdrawn like the Hero 1 cape which Champions boasts as a feature of their creator.|
Originally Posted by David Nakayama
Hey, folks. I'd like to explore the idea of bringing back old costume parts that, for whatever reason, have fallen out of the system. So I'm turning to you, our esteemed veterans, for some historical knowledge and, ideally, names plus screenshots. I've seen a few examples posted on other threads, but let's consolidate that information here if possible.
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My own personal one is something I only tried in i9 beta on the US server. Server transfers were being tested at the time and those early birds got a big worm in that their characters got flagged as GMs and got access to several special commands and some NPC parts. We got back details from a few as well as some lovely preset pieces like ghost pirates and PPD hardsuits (Ghost pirate tankman ftw!). What it did show up was a couple of Vanguard pieces that for some reason were cut out of the final available set - the back emblem and a second belt option with thigh guards.
As seen here, thigh guards (vanguard belt 1 iirc):
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I did try both parts on in the editor and they didn't seem to clip, slip or other. The back detail was also mutually exclusive to capes from what I remember.
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As far as clipping goes, I dont think it should really be a factor anymore. Has anyone tried to use the new Organic Armor gloves with a shield? Parts stick through the shield, making it look as if the shield isn't so much something you have learned to use, more like it is simply something stuck to your arm that you have learned to work with. And even that, not a big deal.
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Originally Posted by Tyger
Well there's been quite a few parts which leaked out, most recent being the Syndicate pattern for pants (now grandfathered on two of my characters). I guess that one just slipped through but there's a few NPC patterns which get withdrawn like the Hero 1 cape which Champions boasts as a feature of their creator.
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I for one, would love access to these. Or at least reasonable facsimiles.
Previous thigh high boots please.
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I guess I miss the original "flip" hairstyle for female characters the most. The current version just looks wrong.
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The only difference I really see is the metallic texture the static, never-been-in-combat model of Blue Steel lacks. It's not like the developers have ever updated NPC costumes before (No offense, but Posi, put the helmet back on, please? |
Originally Posted by Shadow State
Actually it's not, It's similar to but not identical to Blue Steel's shields and and is even still usable in AE. As I recall one of the devs said it was added to the game to be made into an unlockable, they just hadn't put in the unlock yet.
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Originally Posted by Night_Savior
I believe that the Malaise pattern was unique from day one. IIRC, it only worked with cargo pants that were tucked in.
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They were put in to be unique to a named, in-game character; they weren't intended to be accessible in the character generator, but for a decent while they were. I still have a character with them (whom I even named Neural Malaise since I was having trouble naming him and knew nothing, at the time, of the in-game Malaise.)
Having said that, I'm here specifically to second making it available again. It was a really cool texture with some neat behaviors. I understand fully if it's a no-go, but I do want to put in the request.
Add another vote for the 'real' thigh high boots please.
Also, didn't females have nipples at one time? Pretty sure they do in real life.
Women also wear bras that do a pretty damn good job of keeping the nipples covered.
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Alright. Never expected to get into this convo for an MMO. 
BTW, count me in on the number of people that was very happy with the thigh high boot change. I can understand people wanting the old one back in addition to the old one. I'm just saying I like the new one, devs.
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Originally Posted by Qurios
Also, didn't females have nipples at one time? Pretty sure they do in real life.
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Not in a rated 'T' for Teen game.
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Seeing that it was in the game originally, I think it is a valid request within this thread.
Not that this means they'd put them in, and they can come and say "no and stop suggesting it", but otherwise... it's a valid request.
I've never even seen what the models looked like back then. I'm kind of curious to what extent this existed and whatnot.
I can't say I am for or against it without having ever seen how it was or may be implemented. I do find it odd that this simple aspect of basic anatomy would be considered, by some, unthinkable. Obviously the original creators weren't entirely sold on that notion.
Regardless, I also agree that nipples are not blatantly seen through clothes, even in spandex... when/if methods of smoothly covering them are taken. Not having them in-game certainly has not hurt my enjoyment... so, no personal complaints here.
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What would be great is if they restore the old thigh high boots, keeping the seam and leather texture, and then also leave the current thigh highs, but change it to a tights texture and no seam. This way we can have the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Octal40
BTW, count me in on the number of people that was very happy with the thigh high boot change. I can understand people wanting the old one back in addition to the old one. I'm just saying I like the new one, devs.
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No. What would be great is if they had they left the current mesh, added the old mesh, and let you put the leather/zipper texture on either if you like. |
Originally Posted by Captain Fabulous
What would be great is if they restore the old thigh high boots, keeping the seam and leather texture, and then also leave the current thigh highs, but change it to a tights texture and no seam. This way we can have the best of both worlds.
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The so-called "Nipple Nerf" was among the very first patches applied to the game about a week or so after it launched back in April 2004. Not only did it address the female nipple texture issue but it also (IIRC) removed the flesh-tone colors that were originally available for costume items. With those colors available it was very easy (or at least much easier than it is now) to create naked-looking characters. |
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
I thought T was for Teets...
Seeing that it was in the game originally, I think it is a valid request within this thread. Not that this means they'd put them in, and they can come and say "no and stop suggesting it", but otherwise... it's a valid request. I've never even seen what the models looked like back then. I'm kind of curious to what extent this existed and whatnot. I can't say I am for or against it without having ever seen how it was or may be implemented. I do find it odd that this simple aspect of basic anatomy would be considered, by some, unthinkable. Obviously the original creators weren't entirely sold on that notion. Regardless, I also agree that nipples are not blatantly seen through clothes, even in spandex... when/if methods of smoothly covering them are taken. Not having them in-game certainly has not hurt my enjoyment... so, no personal complaints here. |
The original appearance of female nipples in this game were never really as blatantly obvious as some people remember them to be. Basically the way the polygons looked on the female body form made it look, from certain angles, like there was a bit of something sticking out there. I think all the Devs did was slightly edit the model just enough to smooth over the rough edges so to speak to minimize the mere 'hint' of nipple.
From a realism point of view I wouldn't mind if there were more direct ways for these kinds of things to be part of the character models. But I understand that as a Teen rated game there's only so much realism the Devs are going to tolerate and having to be be stuck with featureless Barbie and Ken dolls is clearly safer from the "don't want to piss off overly sensitive parents" standpoint. I suspect the only reason female nipples were nerfed to the degree that they were was to appease someone who complained about it. Oh well. *shrugs*
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Too bad that boots aren't designed to work like that tho. You'd have to create an entirely new sub-category, which is probably more work than they're willing to do. The easier it is to accomplish the more likely it'll happen.
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Originally Posted by Octal40
No. What would be great is if they had they left the current mesh, added the old mesh, and let you put the leather/zipper texture on either if you like.
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There was a 'feature', a funny colour combination, one of the purple colours and one of the greens, when selected as primary and secondary, it made the body part invisible.
Once it became very common knowledge, and everybody did it, I guess the Devs removed it and found a new way to make things invisible when needed.
IWhile most people were doing funny floating heads (that was fun) I had a character who lacked upper arms, and had only big gloves, and uised the electric arm aura to make them look held on by that.
It was quite fun, and the option to make things invisible again would be most enjoyable 
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There was a 'feature', a funny colour combination, one of the purple colours and one of the greens, when selected as primary and secondary, it made the body part invisible.
Once it became very common knowledge, and everybody did it, I guess the Devs removed it and found a new way to make things invisible when needed. IWhile most people were doing funny floating heads (that was fun) I had a character who lacked upper arms, and had only big gloves, and uised the electric arm aura to make them look held on by that. It was quite fun, and the option to make things invisible again would be most enjoyable |
O yes PLEASE I asked for something like this in the ATA: Animation thread but if it's doable like this then PLEASE give it back at least for the upper arms as this is exactly the look I was going for.
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Originally Posted by Kai
Old belt positioning option please....
 See how the belt lays against the hips in the left two? Original style. See how its higher and flatter in the right two? New/current stuff |
Oh HELL yeah!
I thought I was just nuts, that the belts always looked like that, but those older 'hiphugger' style looked WICKED.
Pls put back in all the old, lower belts! Call them "Low beltname" or something.
Oh, and to match all the calls for 'sleek' textures, please add sleek to all the 'bottoms with skin' options, especially the little shorts. Oh, and a patent leather texture to match the patent leather top would be nice.
And for all the ladies, sleek and leather shorts for the fellas, too!
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