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Are we starting the doom threads early this time?
Let's do one for issue 18. I bet it's gonna suck.


 

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Should of told you enough. Better graphics adds to the game play experience. I think Paragon Studios gets things right when they can keep the minimum requirement the same and yet still makes the game good for high end graphics.
I agree with that. But they don`t add a lot. They add some feeling and thats about it.
In the history of gaming there were a few games that ... made history. Games like Diablo (the whole series), Counter-Strike, Civilization, Starcraft, Warcraft brought milions of gamers all together in multiplayer games due to gameplay and defiantely NOT graphics.
I will say this again : THE GRAPHICS ARE GREAT! maybe not the best on the market BUT THEY ARE GREAT!
I am dissapointed. WHY ? Look at the game now and think about the improvements that it needs in various aspects. Look at The Power Suggestion Box , at Custom Weapon Request Thread and at Jay's Costume Request Thread . I expected to see something like : Going Rogue is coming next summer and we`ll make the game better by giving you a better pvp system, adding new travel powers, taking customization another step further by adding this and that (and theres a ton of things in those threads), new task force systems where you don`t have to spend 6 hours at level 12 wanting to smash your computer sometimes or where you don`t have to spend 30 minutes of continuous blasting a villain. And many more improvements that you have been asking for.
Instead we all knew before HeroCon that Positron said he was surprised at how much he was allowed by the marketing department to reveal about GR. And all I saw was Oh look we got a new and shiny zone. How much time can you walk around and look at your reflection ? Are we all narcissists ?
I will be impressed even more by the whole new graphic system after I hear what beta players have to say about the graphic lag and their system. Remember you need at least 30 frames per second and I am very curious about the systems that can handle that. Laptop wise you will probably need an Alienware laptop to play it.
Yes its not needed , the game is still playable without it. The DVD will probably cost a minimum of 30 USD. Up until now I will pay that money for what ? 2 powersets and a new zone ? THAT does not impress me. Even with the revamp of the first 20 levels.
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Upcoming feature: You don't have to log in or out to switch characters.
This is something else I always wanted and will enjoy.
The bottom line is that this is a payed expansion and if they make a huge fuss about it I expect to have huge things to pay for. Because even tough it looks great in terms of graphics I am not going to buy it just so I can spend another few hundred dollars upgrading to a better laptop, considering that my monthly fee goes towards NCSoft for me playing and not flying around the city every day when I log on.


 

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I expected to see something like : Going Rogue is coming next summer and we`ll make the game better by giving you a better pvp system, adding new travel powers, taking customization another step further by adding this and that (and theres a ton of things in those threads), new task force systems where you don`t have to spend 6 hours at level 12 wanting to smash your computer sometimes or where you don`t have to spend 30 minutes of continuous blasting a villain. And many more improvements that you have been asking for.
Oh well!

Maybe you should learn to temper your expectations for a release this far off?

Or at least stop whining about it.


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Let's do one for issue 18. I bet it's gonna suck.
I think it needs its own thread...


 

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Are we starting the doom threads early this time?
Ha; people were moaning "DOOM" pretty much as news first came out of Going Rogue. Even this little preview has already gone beyond those early DOOM cries; such as the claim that Praetoria would just be a single small zone like Ouroboros, and the claim that we wouldn't be able to reach the real Rogue Isles/Paragon with side switching, only instanced missions, and the claim that Dual Pistols would just be a reskinned Assault Rifle.


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Sheesh. It's simple. When it comes to Big Lists of everything we want, they've been knocking out the biggest things on the list one after another for the last 2 years, and well into next year based on what we've seen.

You keep coming and saying that they should have done different stuff all you like. That doesn't make you sound like anything other than an ingrate though.


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Oh well!

Maybe you should learn to temper your expectations for a release this far off?

Or at least stop whining about it.
Not whining, just saying that what they presented so far as the upcoming expansion set for CoX for me is not that much and I have tried to explain why. Personal opinion, no one has to agree.


 

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Sheesh. It's simple. When it comes to Big Lists of everything we want, they've been knocking out the biggest things on the list one after another for the last 2 years, and well into next year based on what we've seen.
I might bring some hate onto myself by saying this but sadly this is not how game developing works. There is no list in any of their offices with what players ask on the forums.


 

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I might bring some hate onto myself by saying this but sadly this is not how game developing works. There is no list in any of their offices with what players ask on the forums.
Duh...we do things digitally these days.


 

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I might bring some hate onto myself by saying this but sadly this is not how game developing works. There is no list in any of their offices with what players ask on the forums.

You might want to tell that to the developers then, so that they make take that list off the wall in their offices and throw it away.


 

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Wow I am sorry they arent hooking you up MageX.

But for me they are doing a damn fine job. Let's see...
I asked that they tab the contacts... check
I asked that we get more slots... check
I asked that we be able to set the team slider thing (I16)... check
I asked for a major graphical update... incoming check
I screamed about Brute pets sucking *fixed now* ... check


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LOVE that video! Sooooo pumped for GR now

Best bit was between 14:30 - 15 mins . . . .

"we can fly?!!?" lmao

Edit: Ok i dont know who that guy is who kept shouting out during that video but i love him!

"turn it back onnnnnn" lmao


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I might bring some hate onto myself by saying this but sadly this is not how game developing works. There is no list in any of their offices with what players ask on the forums.
The pvp wishlist proves this point!


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I asked that they tab the contacts... check
I asked that we get more slots... check
I asked that we be able to set the team slider thing (I16)... check
I asked for a major graphical update... incoming check
I screamed about Brute pets sucking *fixed now* ... check
Where are these things announced ?


 

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Ha; people were moaning "DOOM" pretty much as news first came out of Going Rogue. Even this little preview has already gone beyond those early DOOM cries; such as the claim that Praetoria would just be a single small zone like Ouroboros, and the claim that we wouldn't be able to reach the real Rogue Isles/Paragon with side switching, only instanced missions, and the claim that Dual Pistols would just be a reskinned Assault Rifle.
And this is exactly why game developers are so hesitant in giving us pre-development information. Cause there are always idiots who rely on speculations as fact and try to skew what little information they have in order to justify their own stance towards something.

No matter what the developers do, there is always at least one person who is whining about it.


 

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You might want to tell that to the developers then, so that they make take that list off the wall in their offices and throw it away.
And then he can go and tell us that issue 16's features were never requested by players. . . o wait.


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Where are these things announced ?
They've been added over the past year or so, maybe you missed it. Well, except for the upcoming item of graphical upgrades...


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And this is exactly why game developers are so hesitant in giving us pre-development information.
Cause there are always idiots who rely on speculations as fact and try to skew what little information they have in order to justify their own stance towards something.

No matter what the developers do, there is always at least one person who is whining about it.
Moon Zone in the next issue, you heard it here first folks!


 

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They've been adding more "stuff" (powersets, zones, story arcs, events, etc.) faster than I can get bored with it, so it's hard for me to say that I'm Disappointed.


 

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mage, you are just being unreasonable here. we have no idea if anything is going on with pvp, we dont know what costume bits are coming(outside of the clockwork stuff) they talked about a segment of the features coming, not all of them, we got a window of stuff coming apparently half a year off. I ask again, do you really think this is it? there will be more things, these are the big bullet points that marketing has cleared, that is all. be a little more patient before saying how disappointing it is.

also, tamp down the hyperbole, there is no tf currently that takes 6 hours to complete at level 12(some shard tfs need fixed, but they arent at level 12) and all of the current tfs introduced since issue 2 have been far more concise. people have been clearing posi a hell of a lot faster for quite some time, so claiming an outlier time just is silly. similarly, if it takes a team half an hour to drop a av, then that team has issues of coordination, or the av needs looked at individually. saying untrue things like this just diminishes your point and makes you look uninformed in your opinion.


 

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DID YA SEE THE PISTOLS NOVA?!?!!??! I want now now now now now!

Also the reflections! They truely add a whole lot to the realism of the game!

Also the clockwork! Damn they look good now! Love the sound of them moving too! BTW did they all ambush him as soon as he attacked? Like call for reinforcements?

So the game will be what? 6 years old when this comes out yeah and it'll look like THAT for a MMO? Hot doggity! Im sold for life again!


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I'd pay for a life subscription.


 

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Also the clockwork! Damn they look good now! Love the sound of them moving too! BTW did they all ambush him as soon as he attacked? Like call for reinforcements?
I think it looks like the big ones can call in smaller soliders if they get into trouble - probably by TP from wherever their super secret janitor closet is located.


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mage, you are just being unreasonable here. we have no idea if anything is going on with pvp, we dont know what costume bits are coming(outside of the clockwork stuff) they talked about a segment of the features coming, not all of them, we got a window of stuff coming apparently half a year off. I ask again, do you really think this is it? there will be more things, these are the big bullet points that marketing has cleared, that is all. be a little more patient before saying how disappointing it is.
All I said is that the spiffy new kewl and brand new thingies Going Rogue will mostly be about are over rated, at least from my point of view. That if the video that I quoted in my first post is showing the best Going Rogue has to offer (Ultra graphics, Praetoria and 2 new powersets).
I don`t think I`m being unreasonable saying that I`m not impress based on what I have seen. I did try to explain why and lots of people don`t agree. Thats ok, doesn`t matter that much. To me it matters that GR is a payed expansion and I can make a very big list with already existing stuff that could have been improved/fixed. If I would have heard Positron saying that there will be base raids , new customization improvements and other stuff I already mentioned I would have said Great, just what I wanted. Giving me something I`ll never use like super graphics just makes me say "meh".
If it makes any of you feel any better, I am sorry for not following the herd spirit on this one. But i`m optimistic.