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Originally Posted by Castle
Going Rogue will not have general case Diminishing Returns applied to PvE. There has been some discussion of enabling DR specifically on Debuffs for certain encounters
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
I'm part of the doom-callers (not so secret) society of players that think GR is going to come with some very major game altercations like diminished returns implemented into the pve side.
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Originally Posted by Castle
Going Rogue will not have general case Diminishing Returns applied to PvE. There has been some discussion of enabling DR specifically on Debuffs for certain encounters, but that has largely been discounted at the current time. *IF* those specific encounters prove to be too easy in the Beta process, DR *may* be revisited as a solution but even then, it is unlikely due to the amount of supporting code that would be needed.
TL;DR 99.9% sure there won't be PvE Diminishing Returns. (Thanks for the PM's pointing me to this thread!) |
(seriously though, I would wager Frosticus will try a comeback along the lines of "well DR was just the example I gave, and Castle didn't say he wouldn't have other major nerfs that weren't DR...." yeesh louise)
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I wonder if he'll ever set foot in this thread again, to be honest.
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
40 Quatloos on the ringer brought in from the prison planet!
(seriously though, I would wager Frosticus will try a comeback along the lines of "well DR was just the example I gave, and Castle didn't say he wouldn't have other major nerfs that weren't DR...." yeesh louise)
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
I'm part of the doom-callers (not so secret) society of players that think GR is going to come with some very major game altercations like diminished returns implemented into the pve side.
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Aren't you glad being wrong didn't cost you 2 billion play monies?
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In two weeks, Frosticus will be saying that it was me that was wrong, because I said DR in GR was impossible and he was only saying it was possible, not certain.|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
40 Quatloos on the ringer brought in from the prison planet!
(seriously though, I would wager Frosticus will try a comeback along the lines of "well DR was just the example I gave, and Castle didn't say he wouldn't have other major nerfs that weren't DR...." yeesh louise) |
In two months, Frosticus will be saying that I was so wrong about DR being a possibility in the end game, Castle had to post a correction to my misinformation.
In two years the devs will add a buff soft-cap mechanism and Frosticus will say "I told you so."
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ED is all ready a form of DR. That's enough thanks. I wouldn't really like to get double dipped.
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Originally Posted by Castle
Going Rogue will not have general case Diminishing Returns applied to PvE. There has been some discussion of enabling DR specifically on Debuffs for certain encounters, but that has largely been discounted at the current time. *IF* those specific encounters prove to be too easy in the Beta process, DR *may* be revisited as a solution but even then, it is unlikely due to the amount of supporting code that would be needed.
TL;DR 99.9% sure there won't be PvE Diminishing Returns. (Thanks for the PM's pointing me to this thread!) |
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I know a few people for whom CoV is a fabulous standalone game. They do not play heroes. They never have.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
... but then I don't believe CoV would have made it as a standalone game, either.
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(Yes, I understand the conversation has gone past this, but it bugged the hell out of me.)
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Hasn't anyone leaned anything everything that is done, is done by one entity:
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This would be kinda sad if it weren't so terribly true....being true, it makes me giggle inanely.|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
In two weeks, Frosticus will be saying that it was me that was wrong, because I said DR in GR was impossible and he was only saying it was possible, not certain.
In two months, Frosticus will be saying that I was so wrong about DR being a possibility in the end game, Castle had to post a correction to my misinformation. In two years the devs will add a buff soft-cap mechanism and Frosticus will say "I told you so." |
The rear part of this thread reminds me of a conspiracy theory believing friend of mind who to this day believes that..........
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Well paint me red and call me grandma! It's a good thing I'm not a betting man with how many things have blindsided me the last few days, but I would have bet dollars to doughnuts that a red name would never commit to making such a statement on pain of death. I didn't think they were going forward with DR mind you, but I just didn't think they'd reveal it, or one of those PMs would've been mine. A few times I thought about Castle to ask him if "Dude, this is getting out of hand! Could you, like, drop by and set us straight?"|
Originally Posted by Castle
Going Rogue will not have general case Diminishing Returns applied to PvE. There has been some discussion of enabling DR specifically on Debuffs for certain encounters, but that has largely been discounted at the current time. *IF* those specific encounters prove to be too easy in the Beta process, DR *may* be revisited as a solution but even then, it is unlikely due to the amount of supporting code that would be needed.
TL;DR 99.9% sure there won't be PvE Diminishing Returns. (Thanks for the PM's pointing me to this thread!) |
Now I kind of wish I had. Not that it would've helped, but at least I would have felt like I made a difference
Here's the million dollar question - would this change anything? That'll be interesting to see.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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"Made it," as in been profitable and sustainable. For that matter, I don't think JUST City of Heroes without City of Villains would have "made it," either. CoV gives me probably half my playtime in the game, and I'm not sure if I'd still be here if it weren't for that.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
I know a few people for whom CoV is a fabulous standalone game. They do not play heroes. They never have.
(Yes, I understand the conversation has gone past this, but it bugged the hell out of me.) |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Next time, I'm making book before sending any emails.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I would have bet dollars to doughnuts that a red name would never commit to making such a statement on pain of death.
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Good to see that Castle dis-proved some of the foolishness that was being stated in this thread.
How folks believe they know the devs better than they know themselves is beyond me.
And yeah, I should have taken that bet.
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Er... it already had. That's kind of why they had the resources to bother with the villain part.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
"Made it," as in been profitable and sustainable. For that matter, I don't think JUST City of Heroes without City of Villains would have "made it," either.
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Villains was in development for quite a while. It was announced soon after COH launched. Before Issue 3 I believe.|
Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
Er... it already had. That's kind of why they had the resources to bother with the villain part.
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Even so...I think that it did a lot to keep people interested in the game who found that blueside didn't really have enough to offer them and who were looking for something new.
Now we can argue about how well it did at retaining the people it brought to the game and that perhaps having it as a standalone title was a bad idea.
I think that not pushing further development on redside hurt a lot more than it helped.
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Ahh gleemax, so doomed from the start.
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Originally Posted by Mylia
Hasn't anyone leaned anything everything that is done, is done by one entity:
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Tiny fix. Carry on.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
In two weeks, Frosticus will be saying that it was me that was wrong, because I said DR in GR was impossible and he was only saying it was possible, not certain.
In two months, Frosticus will be saying that I was so wrong about DR being a possibility in the end game, BABs had to post a correction to my misinformation. In two years the devs will add a buff soft-cap mechanism and Frosticus will say "I told you so." |
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This is like going through the looking glass.
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Tiny fix. Carry on.
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I meant here, not on the Champions Online forums.|
Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Tiny fix. Carry on.
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By the way, you post a lot for someone suffering from repetitive intra-cranial detonation. Doesn't that gum up your keyboard?
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Heh, I just noticed something in Castle's quoteback of Frosti's original doooooom post: