Disappointed

If you are so assured of yourself that I am wrong then give me 5:1 odds and I'll bet you 1 billion inf that DR appears with GR or if they drop an issue 2-2.5 months before it in that one.

Doesn't tickle your fancy, how bout 2 billion?

I'm pretty sure it will be there, sure enough to put up or shut up with you. So what will it be?

Hopefully this won't be like the time you told another poster you would have to fall on your head to write a worse MA arc than them and that your were going to write a hall of fame arc under a pseudonym... that I'm guessing never happened.

Basically, if you are so convinced I'm wrong. Wrong enough to post multiple thousand word essays about it then put your money where your mouth is. I'm willing to.

Actually I'll go 1:1 odds on a billion inf if you really want Arcana, just cause I've never seen you post anything that waivers outside of a stringent 3% risk range.

I'm pretty sure most the valid* outcries was from people talking about raising system specs or the game loosing it's feel. The new graphics mode is fully optional AND does not change the feel of the game. This means those with pull listened to both sides.

Can I get in on some of this action? I can't bet much, but I'll put what I can down on no DR in PvE with GR or before it (or the issue behind it).


*"This feature would take dev time away from X" is not a valid complaint.

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Originally Posted by Frosticus If you are so assured of yourself that I am wrong then give me 5:1 odds and I'll bet you 1 billion inf that DR appears with GR or if they drop an issue 2-2.5 months before it in that one. Doesn't tickle your fancy, how bout 2 billion? I'm pretty sure it will be there, sure enough to put up or shut up with you. So what will it be? Hopefully this won't be like the time you told another poster you would have to fall on your head to write a worse MA arc than them and that your were going to write a hall of fame arc under a pseudonym... that I'm guessing never happened. Basically, if you are so convinced I'm wrong. Wrong enough to post multiple thousand word essays about it then put your money where your mouth is. I'm willing to. Actually I'll go 1:1 odds on a billion inf if you really want Arcana, just cause I've never seen you post anything that waivers outside of a stringent 3% risk range.

I don't bet. But considering how little of sources you have for your 'predictions', the offer is tempting...

Um... What outcry? The way I remember it, everyone pretty much agreed. I haven't read anyone say they would be against a facelift as far back as I can remember. About the most people may have said is they like the graphics well enough, but outside of the "will the game run on my computer" rhetoric, who ever said the game SHOULDN'T be made to look better? Hell, people have been asking for "a new engine" for years.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

If I had 2 billion to bet I'd out and out part with it just to shut you up. Tell you what - if you're so self-assured, how about you take comfort in that certainty and WAIT until it happens. If it does, you'll be vindicated, but until then, we'll do without your drama.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

With meaningless play money?

Bold!

How about I'll wager a unicorn against your hippogriff that yer wrong!

I'd be ecstatic if we could settle our tabs AFTER this change comes down (or fails to). Then I'll be more than happy to admit I was wrong, or to parade that I was right, but I do NOT fancy going over this again and again over the however many months we still have left.

But, yeah, meaningless play money is something I'd be willing to pay - pay, not bet - just to let this drop. It's really wearing thin.

P.S. That's not a poke at you, goat. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Not as bold as the guy who wanted to bet me that he'd fail in the villain market, with the stakes being "I leave the game forever" if he wins, and "he leaves the game forever" when I win.

ISTR blowing that off as so much ITG posturing. No need to make a point with so much melodrama.

HAH!

That does take the cake.

He characterized my refusal as an unwillingness to lose on those stakes, but it's just... man, why would I want to win on those stakes?

Also, it relied on his good faith, since he'd be the one making or breaking on the market.

Also, why he picked on my comment when multiple people were saying the same thing.

must be talking about two different threads. No worries.

Right, right. Now that you mention it, it WAS a thread about how graphical updates were the devil and the game should be doing other things, if I remember right, but let me put it this way - not a lot of people were against graphical updates. Even those who weren't interested for the most part just shrugged their shoulders aid said "It was about time, either way."

But maybe I am thinking of a different thread.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I find it ironic that rather than use the /ignore button at the tip of your fingers you choose to further perpetuate the "drama". The ability to "shut people up" is in your control. Take responsibility for your experiences instead of putting it on other people.

I don't ignore anyone, but at the same time I actually like the full spectrum of posts found on these boards and you probably won't find me whinning about it. If the majority of posters were as boring as you guys it wouldn't be worth reading anything here (other than some of the build threads), which would lead to more time spent in game and faster burnout.

All I can say is that when I post something inflamatory rest assured it was intended to evoke a response. It is also worth taking note of what particular sub forum you are posting in, that should help you gauge how far the stick should be situated. In this particular case we are in the "For Fun" section so for reference one would unclench and go with a minimum of depth. Or not, too each their own.

My intent wasn't to muscle you into shutting up. My intent was to take you up on your offer to put up or shut up, and at the same time express that I don't care about your macho challenges about who's right and who's wrong. If the point of this "bet" was to table the issue until it could be resolved with Going Rogue, then I'd out and out pay, rather than bet, because I don't care to win, I just care to put an end to this ludicrous speculating.

And I gotta' say - if you post inflammatory stuff with the sole intent of "evoking a response," e.i. getting a rise out of people, then maybe I SHOULD ignore you. And here I thought you were here to discuss.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

"I run bile from my mouth because I have nothing of value to add to the discussion." probably wins you an internets in some forums. Not these forums mind you, but some I suppose.

Betting fake money at any odds wouldn't really mean anything to me. So I elected to take a different approach entirely.

By the way, when you misquote me, is it because you don't remember what I said or because you somehow think I don't remember what I said? I'm just curious.

Yeah, that kind of caught me by surprise, too. Shortly before that post, I got this in my rep box:

It came attached to positive rep, too. I kind of assumed it was from Frosticus as a sort of "let it go, man" and I'd have left it at that, until I saw Frosticus's post answering the same post of mine in a different manner. Now, rep comments come without a name attached and this person did not leave a name or initials. Given the circumstances, it seems I originally assumed wrong, but that then begs the question - who would send me such a comment worded like it's Frosticus sending it. "I'll accept your wager" is a direct response to what I said to the wager I suggested to him, and I just can't figure out what someone who wasn't Frosticus could have meant by that.

I don't think it's from him, since he answered my post in the thread anyway, and it looked like he'd just found it, and I highly doubt it's from Arcanaville, at the very least since it looks like Arcana just now got around to the wager post.

I'm completely mystified here. Not that it really matters, but I don't understand it, and things I don't understand just bug me.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Going Rogue will not have general case Diminishing Returns applied to PvE. There has been some discussion of enabling DR specifically on Debuffs for certain encounters, but that has largely been discounted at the current time. *IF* those specific encounters prove to be too easy in the Beta process, DR *may* be revisited as a solution but even then, it is unlikely due to the amount of supporting code that would be needed.

TL;DR 99.9% sure there won't be PvE Diminishing Returns.

(Thanks for the PM's pointing me to this thread!)

That seems too final...


...which can only mean one thing...


...they do mean to add DR to PvE in GR!"

Note to self: IfDef the walk power to have Golden Girls Walk anim play the Stunned anim, instead.

That would be too cruel, even for a dev

It was tempting.