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Well that's what I mean. I don't think we needed to level from 1 - 20 faster in the first place. That was born from a deeper problem of not having enough variety in content to keep new heroes/villains interested. Currently, if you play at +1 level you still outlevel things at a pretty ridiculous pace when you factor in patrol XP. Making all that content for a level range that you have purposely trivialized via accelerated XP gains is weird. |
Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
Well, we don't know much about it. I would be extremely surprised if we were only in new Praetorian zones for 20 levels. My guess is there will be upper level content as well, especially since any of the higher up Praetorians are only fought in the 40s during the current game setup.
I'm excited for new early level content, actually (I like the whole ride from 1-50). It makes me even more surprised that they accelerated the first 24 levels again, if they are putting all this work into revamping the experience. I was basically annoyed that they put in the acceleration, as I saw it as a cop out from reworking the content and making it good... but then they are putting in that work. Most confusing. |
I'd say 20 - 40 would be where you would concentrate.
Now that someone mentioned it, I -am- a little disappointed we're not getting new travel powers.
I know, I'll go start a thread about it and cry doom!
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given the investment of resources, it certainly wouldnt be good for the company if it was poorly recieved. it also wouldnt be well recieved by the ncsoft overlords. It is definitly the next big thing and could really help the game, or be a indicator of serious problems, but its best not to try and make snap judgments so far away.
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Originally Posted by Mirai
How could it possibly be the final death? It's an optional extra. You don't kill a game with new optional goodies.
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Originally Posted by Mirai
How could it possibly be the final death? It's an optional extra. You don't kill a game with new optional goodies.
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It's somewhat a different thing though, it'd be like forcing everyone in CoH to do hardcore PvP in order to achieve the rumored 50+ content. They basically shoehorned high end hardcore raiding and PvE farming into a primarily PvP endgame.
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Originally Posted by EU_Damz
I think i might join the praetorian police as my path!
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Tyrant's fascist thugs? Shame on you
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The Brits are always trying to keep us freedom loving people down!
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Talking of PvP - I wonder how it will work with Rogues and Vigilantes? If they can access both sides, would that mean they could choose which side to fight on in the PVp zones? Or maybe they might still be flagged according to their starting side, like Vigilantes in Siren's Call could only fight on the blue side?
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Originally Posted by Oliin
Well. Trials of Atlantis was considered by many to be the start of DAoC's downfall.
It's somewhat a different thing though, it'd be like forcing everyone in CoH to do hardcore PvP in order to achieve the rumored 50+ content. They basically shoehorned high end hardcore raiding and PvE farming into a primarily PvP endgame. |
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Talking of PvP - I wonder how it will work with Rogues and Vigilantes? If they can access both sides, would that mean they could choose which side to fight on in the PVp zones? Or maybe they might still be flagged according to their starting side, like Vigilantes in Siren's Call could only fight on the blue side?
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
They should be fair game for everyone.
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In all seriousness, I do have one quibble about the graphics upgrade.
The environment looks awesome, but the character models still look about the same as they do now. So you'll have spiffy looking updated environments, with 5 year old pasted on faces, mitten hands, and a really, really ugly run animation. Wow. Now I remember why I always wear a cape.
While we're at it, a new skeleton for the models is way overdue, if only to add on more attachment points for even greater costume variety.
Now, maybe changes to all that are going to be announced in the coming months, and I hope they are, but I found the contrast between the top notch looking environments and the 5 year old character model (with reflections!!!111one) to be pretty jarring. I imagine it would have been even worse had they used an original hairstyle and some of the original costume parts instead of the much newer helmet hair and RWZ+Cyborg pack costume.
Is it just me, or do the Resistance look like heroic Freakshow?
I'll just put it this way.
The graphical update alone will make me feel like I'm playing an entirely new game. That's far more than I could ask for. The pistols, the demons, the new content is a great addition too, but DAMN are those graphics making me happy. I may not even make a new character until I finish exploring every zone!
Also, yes, the keyword is reflections. Welcome to emulating real life. Things reflect other things. It looks spectacular.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, as Rogues/Vigilantes can access both sides, it's been said they can be used like "gun runners" to carry phat lewt from one side to the other.
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Even if WW & BM remain distinctive and your player can only visit one type, what's to stop him from buying a purple recipe in WW carrying it to a villain friend and giving it to them? Or buying a luck charm for cheaper prices in BM and giving it to your mid-20's hero friend, saving them thousands?
There's been some chatter about INF too. Even in the worse case scenario, where you'd lose influence/infamy switching sides (in which case I'd think you'd have access to the other consignment shop), Why not buy up purple recipies and work with a group mate to move them over to sell for profit eventually restoring currency?
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
I'll just put it this way.
The graphical update alone will make me feel like I'm playing an entirely new game. That's far more than I could ask for. The pistols, the demons, the new content is a great addition too, but DAMN are those graphics making me happy. I may not even make a new character until I finish exploring every zone! |
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I going to use Ouroboros to do every arc again
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... I wonder how Ouro will look. O_O
*craps himself in a fit of joy*
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Phr34kz 4 ju5t1c3!!1!
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Originally Posted by Prof_Backfire
Is it just me, or do the Resistance look like heroic Freakshow?
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I going to use Ouroboros to do every arc again
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(Even if there is nothing to actually DO there cough cough hint hint)
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Well, the central pool and the waterfalls will look better, all the brass will reflect, and the multiple suns/moons will cause dynamic shadows |
Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Good idea!
... I wonder how Ouro will look. O_O |
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The Shadow Shard will probably look incredible. It may even make me crap my pants in a fit of joy again.
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Now now. There are horribly overlong TFs that are dreadfully in need of revamping (cough).
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Originally Posted by Lord_Thanatos
Might to be worth stepping into the SS just to see that zone with updated graphics.
(Even if there is nothing to actually DO there cough cough hint hint) |
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Originally Posted by Oliin
Now now. There are horribly overlong TFs that are dreadfully in need of revamping (cough).
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I try to tell myself that those don't exist, even the insane have their limits ...
"An army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of BS." -General George Patton
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I believe that was me >.> <.<
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Originally Posted by EU_Damz
LOVE that video! Sooooo pumped for GR now
Best bit was between 14:30 - 15 mins . . . . "we can fly?!!?" lmao Edit: Ok i dont know who that guy is who kept shouting out during that video but i love him! "turn it back onnnnnn" lmao |
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
I believe that was me >.> <.<
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and firstist after a red :O
"An army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of BS." -General George Patton
-Lord Azazel
Well, as Rogues/Vigilantes can access both sides, it's been said they can be used like "gun runners" to carry phat lewt from one side to the other.
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