I16: Super-Sidekicking Explained

Wait. Does this mean that a group of level 1s can all go to the RWZ and start the story arcs there?

Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler you *******!!!!

No. The contacts will still have their level limit in place (as I understand it). Level 1s can go to the AE building in RWZ and play with villains, however

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Wait..! This can't be right...

You will still have level restrictions on when you get the Midnight Arc entrance. Without the midnight badge no access to Cimerora.. without access... no ITF.

Isn't that the same with RWZ..? Then again. RWZ is a known location.. while Cimerora is a secret... a time portal...

ouch... Global would be much better... As mail is send to and from globals most of the time. Also... the list will be in need of tweaking. I still cant see how long they where offline...

As such I cant remove the inactive accounts. With the current list cap... how do I clean it up?

Could we please get options to turn off outleveling and sidekick to the mission level? Isn't being able to do more content considered good for customer retention?

I very much HATE the outleveling system and don't understand why it exists. With the super-sidekicking system it could become impossible to store lower level arcs and do them at their level by inviting a person to exemplar you.

It is often necessary to turn off XP just to complete a single NPC's missions if you team, and with even more XP at lower levels that will become increasingly necessary. I just started a warshade and found I had to turn off XP even while soloing at 1-4. Being able to avoid such tweaking would be far more enjoyable.

Thanks for reading.

I hope a lvl 50 keeps earning inf the same way or even better under this system... They need inf... and cant get any xp in any way ...

I'm all for reducing the requirements for some badges (as I posted earlier re Hero Slayer, Illusionist, etc.), but I can't say that Outlaw is a badge I have ever struggled to get during normal gameplay: I almost always have it by L45/46. All my characters do their mayhem mission every 5 levels and don't necessarily do full clears on every one.

What they do all tend to do is the L40-45 arcs from Westin Phipps in Grandville (usually because I avoid Dobbs as my duo partner hates Arachnoids, Korol's & Kuhr'Rekt's arcs are so short, and I don't find No 204's arc is worth the hassle of hunting 200 Toxic Tarantulas to unlock it - once was enough). The PPD in those tends to get me Outlaw every time. If it doesn't for some reason then you can always do Television at L45-50 as he has PPD in his missions too - as does Abyss at L45-50 iirc (specifically on the Sunstorm arc). Any PPD count for Outlaw, not just mayhem mission ones.

I'm not seeing how it will be harder, but then I usually Ouro the Magus Mu'Drakhan arc that has Infernal in the 3rd mission of it, and farm his behemoths on that - a few times I've done the mission at an xp-giving level and farmed them then, but either way it didn't take too long (just over half an hour I guess). I just hate to feel pushed into farming it like that.

I do have a few characters that didn't have to farm his Behemoths at all, because they did a few LRSFs for the extra hero credit through "normal" gameplay, but honestly as I said earlier I think Hero Slayer should only need 25 signature heroes, just for parity with the blueside badge Villain Disruptor (which only needs 25 signature villains from the [Arachnos] and [Rogue Isles Villains] factions, iirc).

Firebug is always the mayhem badge, other than Hero Slayer, that I never get through normal gameplay by L50, because: a) only the person who clicks the last firebomb gets arson credit; b) I rarely do my own mayhem missions more than once every 5 levels (for the temp power as much as the referral) for a total of 9 by L50; and c) which mayhem side-missions you get are random until L40+ (when you get all 5 side missions in the Founders' Falls and PI mayhems) so you don't always get an arson in mayhems before L40 - so consequently I never ever get Firebug normally by L50.

Usually I have around 4-6 arson credits towards Firebug when I hit L50 (though one of my recently levelled L50s only had 3 arson credits by L50). Sure, you can easily get the arsons off a single L45-50 (or L40-45) mayhem if you have a friend with it and they log out while you do just the arson in their mayhem, then they reset the mission when they log back in, but it's a tad annoying to have to game it like that (though less annoying than having to do another 20-30 newsies and 4-6 mayhems to get it solo).

I think Firebug should be changed so that either everyone in a mayhem team gets arson credit not just whoever clicked the final firebomb, or (more preferably) just change it to requiring five arson completions instead of ten.

I really hate having to wipe out grey con mobs for a badge, but at least this one doesn't take too long. On one of my stalkers I got this badge when the Consiglieres were worth xp and it took under a couple of hours, but otherwise I wait until L50 and just blitz it in that NE corner of St M and it usually takes anywhere between 45mins and 90mins depending on AT/powersets. Sure, I find it annoying to have to do that, but then that's why I'm not a badge-hunter usually.

Though it would be much easier to get Gangbuster for the unlockable contact if it was set to 50 or 100 bosses, and some L30-34 Marcone bosses were added to St M somewhere. I've only done Slot Machine (L30-35) once normally (i.e. not through Ouro) and while it was a decent enough arc it wasn't memorable enough for me to want to go farm grey con Marcone bosses in Marconeville (Port Oakes) to unlock it on other characters as they level up (because all of the existing Marcone bosses in St M are L36-38 iirc).

Always could. If a teammate quits the team, they remain on the map until they exit or the holder of said mission sets a new one {at which point they are booted outside}. The team can bring in a replacement for you and, in theory, there could be an infinite number of people on a mission map.

Unlike quitting of their own volition, booting someone from your team automatically ejects them outside.

Well, friends-and-SGmates-only is an optional setting, not automatic.

Good god, yes. At least the story arcs part.

I'd probably still say yes...

Hmmm... Mentor tetris gone. Virtually any player being eligible to join any team for any mission. Exemped characters able to earn xp (and possible not take as big a hit on their powers as they do now).

The pool of realistically available players for recruiting teams just got a lot bigger.

So are there any plans in place to revamp the character search interface?

Even just allowing teamed/solo to be filtered and a larger set of displayed results would be starter steps... And, unless it's becoming important in planned future issues, why is origin shown in the search results? Heck - show more of the search comment rather than irrelevant information.

Any hope of a team-based/LFM search (to complement the character-based search)?

There was a dev (BaBs?) commented a while back that they'd had some thoughts about this - did it end up unworkable? Or might we see a LFM search soon?

Just thinking that the changes would seem to make teaming easier - but the larger pool of possible teammates could perversely make it somewhat harder to recruit without improving the search tools. Being able to search teams that are recruiting would be the real icing on the cake once super-SK makes teaming with anyone easier.

Yeah, Okay... I'm being greedy.

This, really and honestly truly, this.

I'd go even further and say expand it out - let us decide if we want to accept mail from people on our global chat channels as well as a our global friends list.

As one of the EiCs of the US City Scoop, I don't have all of the Scoop members on any of my friend lists - but I do have them all collected neatly on a global channel. I'd like to be able to receive email from them. I'd like to be able to receive email from anyone on the base builder's channel. I don't know that I necessarily want to receive anyone from the Triumph channels I'm on, however. If at all possible, let channel membership help define permission lists.

You don't have to have a badge to enter RWZ like you do the Midnighter Club (and thus, Cimerora). Currently the only thing restricting access to RWZ is level, and with Issue 16 that's going away.

Also, right now you can get the Midnighter Club badge at any level simply by being teamed with someone doing the last mission of the Midnight Club intro arc (i.e., you don't have to be the mission owner), so with Issue 16 you should be able to get a lowbie into Cimerora just by making sure you've teamed with someone doing that arc first.

No, Cimerora and RWZ are level restricted but will no longer be under the new system.

The Midnighter Club is Badge restricted. Anyone can get the badge by being on the team when someone completes the last mission of the appropriate arc.

Theoretically, a lvl 3 will be able to Mission Teleport to their supermentor's mission in Cimerora without getting the badge.

I suspect you'll only earn credit towards them when you're the character that some/all of the team are being super-sidekicked to.

i.e. you'll get badge credit whenever you're owner of the active mission - or when there's no active mission if you're the team leader - that others in the team below your level are being super-sidekicked to.