'Twixt'? Anyone remember this guy?
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7thCynic,
Posted on: 2009-07-06 16:03 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I missed this quotation somehow. Wow. With one sentence this Twixt invalidated his entire thesis. You don't get to verbally provoke people like that and then cry foul when they retaliate in any of 1000 ways.
Between this and the actual paper, I am beginning to wonder about this guy's mental status. He really does seem to have issues; these do not strike me as the words or actions of someone who is quite right in the head, when you look at them closely.
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Yeah. this kind of stuff is why the Aspergers posts came about. There were a lot of parallels drawn to how Twixt was acting compared to someone with Asperger's syndrome.
Some of the evidence was very compelling showing that Twixt does indeed have some serious mental lapses if not a actual mental condition of some sort.
Scary that this guy is a P.H.D. and even scarier that a university is footing the bills for this "research". From everything I have read/witnessed I can only say that I still believe this guy has some mental issues.
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I had a College Professor who liked to knock peoples belongings of there desk and then say what are you going to do I can flunk you . This was in a senior level History class . He had lots of other odd quirks .
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03-26-2008 22:18:04 [Broadcast]Twixt: <color #010101>faraq lowlife slimeball farmer, check
03-26-2008 22:19:03 [Broadcast]Ka Faraq Gatri: <color #010101>Twixt!!!! How ya doing my delusional, maniac/depressive, half-wit, moronic, stooge. Been gone for about 3 days recovering the flu. Did you miss me snookem's?
03-26-2008 22:19:27 [Broadcast]Twixt: <color #010101>im ignorning your little slimeball lowlife farmer [censored], gl, miserable cheater pos
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This was not trolling, nor malicious? Was this also part of RPing Twixt?
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lol that's me. My farming toon in RV was Ka Faraq Gatri. He use to get SO angry that 99% of the reds in RV left me alone because I was only there to farm NPC's. The majourity of villains that played in RV were my friends and as such would let me do my thing. Twixt hated this and would go out of his way to grief me and insult me in broadcast.
Half the time I just ignored him but every once in a while I would toss out a comment just to further frustrate him. Eventually he realized he wasn't getting to me and that no matter what he did he couldn't persuade the villains in the zone to attack me so he actually put ME on ignore lol Clearly this was part of his 'research' or something. I'm dismayed I was never mentioned in his 'report' 
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So ummm let's take a look shall we.
Somebody has a pretty dynamic style of gameplay.
A farmer/fight cluber who complains when being bothered while farming and fight clubbing but... says the arena is for 1v1, uses ncps to fight, calls people and uses words like "male genitalia", "negative word used to describe homosexuals" and lastly "one of the least desirable words for sex".
Let's not forget that somone around here posted a flame of Twixt in the Freedom section that was modded/deleted.
***EDIT*** I'm glad you mentioned this.
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Half the time I just ignored him but every once in a while I would toss out a comment just to further frustrate him.
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Hypocrite much?
Grief much?
Lie much?
Build more myths about Twixt much?
It is attitudes like this (and lack of game knowledge) that have caused some of the community to look down on Twixt. Some of you who have been complaining have not PvPed, don't know the PvP rules, follow hear say only, neglect the fact that you have had your fair share of negative comments on these boards and ingame.
Twixt's methods are being looked at but that does not discount the points/goals of the paper and it is pretty clear (looks at some in the community) that Twixts obsevations were correct.
I'm loving this community of angels-who-do-no-wrong and would rather try to burn someone at the stake then admit the above to be true.
008 18:21:08 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>suck it up
008 18:21:34 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>don't get mad at me that you don't know freedom pvP
04-15-2008 18:21:41 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>arena = 1v1
04-15-2008 18:21:48 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>zone = gankage
04-15-2008 18:27:33 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>you know when they say, "Recluse's Victory is a PvP zone and if you enter, you will almost certainly be attacked by other PLAYERS"
04-28-2008 19:01:38 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>yay! I lost to a PvEr!
04-28-2008 19:01:58 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>we didn't fight NPCs in a PvP zone, we must suck [censored]
04-28-2008 19:02:44 [Broadcast]B K: <color #0101ff><bgcolor #010101>ok dc u wanna maybe try that again without npc's on ur side?
04-28-2008 19:03:52 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>I could start my own petition and get at least 300 names of people who want you gone, twixt
04-28-2008 19:04:46 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>if you get banned, well I guess I owe you a buck
04-28-2008 19:25:55 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>you hibernoobed how many times? 5?
04-28-2008 19:26:23 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>you also ran like a baby
04-28-2008 19:27:29 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>it means you ran from the fight. aka, I win
04-28-2008 19:36:20 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>got one. people without lives are ones who take shots at people online
04-28-2008 22:15:03 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>pwned. reroll
04-28-2008 22:17:13 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>if you'd actually think about powers you might not be a crappy blaster
04-28-2008 22:20:25 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>lovable farmers, huh?
04-28-2008 22:21:11 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>hey twixt
04-28-2008 22:21:51 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>1v1 = one on one. as in just me and no droning or NPCs on your part
04-28-2008 22:21:18 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>want to 1v1 me?
04-28-2008 22:22:03 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>think you can handle it?
04-28-2008 22:22:44 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>what's that? the great twixt is afraid of a mere brute? *gasp*
04-28-2008 22:26:10 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>wanna 1v1 gen?
04-28-2008 22:29:18 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>dude, don't be [censored]
04-28-2008 22:29:31 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>and I saw you pop the reds
04-28-2008 22:29:42 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>the accolade?
04-28-2008 22:30:00 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>dude, don't be [censored]
04-28-2008 22:33:08 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>rofl. hibernoob
04-28-2008 22:33:20 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>dueling guys
04-28-2008 22:34:29 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>dude the [censored]?
04-28-2008 22:34:38 [Broadcast]L: <color #010101>petitioned
04-28-2008 22:34:43 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>bite me
04-28-2008 22:35:25 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>when you hibernate during a duel, it's called hibernoobing
04-28-2008 22:35:51 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>guess the only ice tankers left are the [censored] ones
04-28-2008 22:37:14 Twixt has defeated D c
04-28-2008 22:38:07 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>funny. kids are the ones who flip out for no reason
04-28-2008 22:38:23 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>like spouting noob every 10 seconds
04-28-2008 22:38:44 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>well people who act like kids
04-29-2008 16:50:24 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>I wish. I almost never see PvP kins
04-29-2008 16:53:00 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>I don't want them to fix it, I just don't want them to [censored] it up anymore
05-03-2008 17:10:36 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>anyone want to 1v1?
05-05-2008 21:41:55 [Arena] D c: any non fire/ tankers wanna 1v1?
05-10-2008 19:32:53 [Broadcast]D c: <color #fe0101><bgcolor #010101>ny tankers/scrappers wanna 1v1 a brute?
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Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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According to his own logs he was flaming in the extreme. Here are some logs that he left out of his paper that have been posted on his blog.
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02514: 03-26-2008 20:51:24 [Broadcast]Twixt: well, i would kill you all and win the zone but too many hero farmers
02515: 03-26-2008 20:51:30 [Broadcast]Twixt: hero slimeball lowlife farmers
02518: 03-26-2008 20:51:34 [Broadcast]Twixt: as usuall, vills np
02519: 03-26-2008 20:51:43 [Broadcast]Twixt: but hero lowlife slimeball farmers ruin the zone
02520: 03-26-2008 20:51:46 [Broadcast]Twixt: wat a pity
02530: 03-26-2008 20:52:31 [Broadcast]Twixt: no, little lowlife slimeball farmer boy, U ruin it
02534: 03-26-2008 20:52:48 [Broadcast]Twixt: its trivial to hog the hvys and farm the zone
02535: 03-26-2008 20:52:57 [Broadcast]Twixt: any can do it, any can cheat
02537: 03-26-2008 20:53:04 [Broadcast]Twixt: read the rulez, play the game
02539: 03-26-2008 20:53:10 [Broadcast]Twixt: otherwise, who the f cares
02541: 03-26-2008 20:53:36 [Broadcast]Twixt: congrats, another night of farmer bois
02542: 03-26-2008 20:53:43 [Broadcast]Twixt: wallow in it, little farmer bois
02543: 03-26-2008 20:53:46 [Broadcast]Twixt: you the mans
02879: 03-26-2008 21:18:13 [Broadcast]Twixt: faraq lowlife slimeball farmer, check
02890: 03-26-2008 21:19:35 [Broadcast]Twixt: im ignorning your little slimeball lowlife farmer [censored], gl, miserable cheater pos
03-26-2008 21:19:53 ka faraq gatri is now ignored
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02934: 03-26-2008 21:28:17 [Broadcast]Twixt: its all about phase
02935: 03-26-2008 21:28:20 [Broadcast]Twixt: nothing but phase
02936: 03-26-2008 21:28:27 [Broadcast]Twixt: thats it basically
02937: 03-26-2008 21:28:29 [Broadcast]Twixt: phase or die
02938: 03-26-2008 21:28:34 [Broadcast]Twixt: phase or die
02954: 03-26-2008 21:29:56 [Broadcast]Twixt: phase or die
02955: 03-26-2008 21:30:00 [Broadcast]Twixt: thats yoru choice
02956: 03-26-2008 21:30:03 [Broadcast]Twixt: make your choice
02957: 03-26-2008 21:30:08 [Broadcast]Twixt: phase or die
02985: 03-26-2008 21:32:26 [Broadcast]Twixt: phase or die
02987: 03-26-2008 21:32:30 [Broadcast]Twixt: make your choice
03-26-2008 21:33:33 You have defeated LongDingus
03002: 03-26-2008 21:33:40 [Broadcast]Twixt: phase or die
03004: 03-26-2008 21:33:43 [Broadcast]Twixt: your choice
03-26-2008 21:34:20 Artic Prodigy has defeated Lu Bu.
03-26-2008 21:34:32 Stellar Moon has defeated Mr Invincible
03016: 03-26-2008 21:34:41 [Broadcast]Twixt: whos gonna phase, whos gonna die
03-26-2008 21:34:50 Gen. PinHead has defeated Arachnos Heavy Blaster
03-26-2008 21:35:44 You have defeated Sue Peerior
03031: 03-26-2008 21:35:55 [Broadcast]Twixt: choice number one is phase
03034: 03-26-2008 21:36:00 [Broadcast]Twixt: choice number two is die
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Does the university he works for and who is backing him know about this? They should; this guy is mentally ill. Which is unfortunate, but its not exactly covering them in glory when he's bringing them into the equation in the name of 'valid" research.
Do we really have to keep referencing this man's mental state? It's doing nothing for the conversation and sounds like a cop out.
And Optical I have no idea what the point of your post was. I'm not being mean, I just don't get it.
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Do we really have to keep referencing this man's mental state? It's doing nothing for the conversation and sounds like a cop out.
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Its far from a cop-out, look at what he is saying.
His mental state has everything to do with this issue; accusations take on an entirely different flavor when the person making them is unbalanced. My off-the-cuff, non-MD assessment is that I'm wondering if this guy does not have Antisocial Personality Disorder. His behavior looks an awful lot like it.
If he actually is unbalanced, then what he is doing is blaming gamers for his own personality faults. That's pretty serious when you think about it.
While I may tend to agree it is still only anecdotal and speculation with no way of verification.
I sincerely doubt he has any mental problems so much as he simply doesn't care about the validity of his research and just wants to be recognised for SOMETHING, and because "I guess people are nice to you if you're nice to them" isn't very exciting research, he was purposefully being a **** to people to get the desired results.
He's not mentally ill, he's merely being a hack.
All I can say is if he wanted to pay 15 bucks a month to p:$$ ppl off then let him. His paper from a psychology/social aspect can be respected, debated, and dicussed in academic setting with no problem. (His methods can be even debated there as bad vs good as well). Also this may even be us playing into his scheme.. even now he could be observing our reactons for his next great paper.
Now in game an @$$hat is an @$$hat no matter the reason. I mean anyone can become an @$$hat no matter the reason. If he did it for purely experimental reasons that is fine, but it takes practice to be an @$$hat. So I now have to wonder about the psychology/social aspects of human nature and if he was revealing his true uninhibited self by being an @$$hat to provoke other @$$hats. WOW we could sit on park benches on college campuses in our white toga debating this for decades and still not come to a conclusion. That is why these questions of @$$hatery are so difficult because all are opinions stated as conjecture in which both sides are truely convinced they are correct in their own conjectures.
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While I may tend to agree it is still only anecdotal and speculation with no way of verification.
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It goes directly against the request up thread, as it can easily be seen as a personal attack.
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I have to admit, I'm a bit confused by his stance as well.
He claims he was just playing by the spirit of the zone and everything he did was allowed by the rules, and "supported" by the developers. Yet, those who chose to farm the zone using Heavies were also doing things allowed by the rules and "supported" by the developers, and also within the spirit of the zone (I'd probably put money down that farmers captured the zone pillboxes more then PvPers, in general), but he reviled them and called them names, trying to drive THEM from the zone using similar, if not identical tactics he complained people used against him.
Am I missing something in that?
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You and me both. I asked the same question many pages back. It's almost like he was an intentional hypocrite.
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And Optical I have no idea what the point of your post was. I'm not being mean, I just don't get it.
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Get it? I couldn't even READ most of it. Any post that has to be DECODED to understand it just isn't worth the time.
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Twixt's methods are being looked at but that does not discount the points/goals of the paper and it is pretty clear (looks at some in the community) that Twixts obsevations were correct.
I'm loving this community of angels-who-do-no-wrong and would rather try to burn someone at the stake then admit the above to be true.
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I'm curious.
Does Twixt's paper have any meaning for you other than an assertion that PvP in this game is dominated by carebears?
Because most of the discussion in this thread has been based on the question of whether his paper was researched well enough to prove much of anything.
I mean: at a bare minimum he ought to have created a few different characters and showed how they ended up being treated differently based on how they played the game, one consistent with the "official" rules and the other more in line with the game's social conventions. Twixt didn't do that.
The result appears to be a very silly paper "proving" that PvP in this game is dominated by "carebears".
And the only thing you seem to be taking away from this whole discussion is that we're also proving that.
Wow.
And another thing:
Writing scholarly papers is as much an activity with a definite set of rules as this game's PvP.
Twixt's attempt to make a point about behaviour in this game seems ridiculous in light of the fact that his paper takes advantage of the social conventions that surround scholarly work (tenured professors are often allowed more leniency than other scholars, for example) instead of adhering to the activity's actual rules (such as the presence of a control group in the study).
But why concern ourselves with such "ineffable twaddle"? The important thing is that PvP is overrun by carebears.
Who cares.
Just looks like a old fart addicted to video games had his buttons pushed to many times, and is having a nerdrage. The man needs to act his age.
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Twixt's methods are being looked at but that does not discount the points/goals of the paper and it is pretty clear (looks at some in the community) that Twixts obsevations were correct.
I'm loving this community of angels-who-do-no-wrong and would rather try to burn someone at the stake then admit the above to be true.
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Let's examine what the professor's actual points were in order to understand the community's reaction to them.
1 - That there are such things as "social rules" and "game rules."
2 - That "game rules" are determinable by reading in game descriptions, the EULA, examining software mechanics, and analyzing the responses of game moderators (but without consulting the actual game developers).
3 - That he understood and played by the "game rules" and no one else did.
4 - That when he tried to play purely by the "game rules" (as he had interpreted them) he was run off, on account of "social rules."
5 - That this illustrates that everyone except him was playing by inflexible "social rules" that "inhibit gameplay."
6 - That players have now seduced developers into changing the "game rules" to codify their "social rules."
7 - That game developers have fallen trap to this because they have "abdicated their responsibility to design a game."
8 - That this heralds the "death of games" in general .
While I might be persuaded to believe point 1, the slope leading from 1 to 8 becomes increasingly slippery.
The first and most obvious objection to the professor's interpretation is to his assumption that he was able to discern and play by a set of "game rules." The question is, why are these "game rules" so apparent to him but so difficult for others to interpret or follow? While the professor states that it is the interference of "inflexible" social rules that prevent others from playing as he did, he neglects the possibility that he was not playing by "game rules" at all, but by a set of "social rules" he enacted himself. In fact, everything the professor states about the inflexibility of "social rules" can easily be applied to his playstyle, down to his rigidness and need to carry conflict beyond the walls of the game world.
The next objection to the professor's methods involves his technique. In his essay and media interview, he is quick to point out where other players taunted him, but leaves out descriptions of the interactions that led to it. For example, he cites individuals who believed he might have autism or Asperger's syndrome and says that they must have reached that conclusion because of how rigidly he followed the "game rules." But an analysis that includes all of the facts immediately leads to the more likely answer: the professor manner of speech and habit of repeating himself in public broadcasts and posting recaps in the message boards closely resembled behavior that a lay person would associate with an actual mental condition. Logs of the professor's communications with players are fatal to his hypothesis that it was his adherence to "game rules" alone that brought about events.
Most frustrating of all, the professor has blamed players for enacting "social rules" and game developers for permitting them, but has assigned no blame to himself in any of the situations that developed. In every communication he asserts, to steal a quote from the person I cited above, that he is an "angel-who-do[es]-no-wrong." He is insistent that he obeyed the game rules and shocked--shocked!--that others do not share this interpretation despite an outpouring of criticism across the web. He asserts that the "game rules" are easy to interpret as the rules of chess when they clearly are not--according to him, even the game developers have lost sight of them! He interprets any objection to his conclusion as yet more players who are enacting the brute justice "social rules." In his mind, it is everyone else who is victim to 'social rules." Luckily he has a doctorate and can see through it.
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I have to admit, I'm a bit confused by his stance as well.
He claims he was just playing by the spirit of the zone and everything he did was allowed by the rules, and "supported" by the developers. Yet, those who chose to farm the zone using Heavies were also doing things allowed by the rules and "supported" by the developers, and also within the spirit of the zone (I'd probably put money down that farmers captured the zone pillboxes more then PvPers, in general), but he reviled them and called them names, trying to drive THEM from the zone using similar, if not identical tactics he complained people used against him.
Am I missing something in that?
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The only thing youre missing is that an advanced education or academic recognition does not in any way free a person from hypocrisy and self denial. 
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And Optical I have no idea what the point of your post was. I'm not being mean, I just don't get it.
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Get it? I couldn't even READ most of it. Any post that has to be DECODED to understand it just isn't worth the time.
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Which was fairly typical when Dr. Myers was posting on these boards as Twixt, rather than this new alias. 
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The only thing youre missing is that an advanced education or academic recognition does not in any way free a person from hypocrisy and self denial.
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Heck, I'm mostly hoping I don't have a degree from any institution he's hoodwinked with a moronic assertion like this one.
Guy gets on bus, doesn't bathe, farts and belches loudly, laughs and points at whatever his idiotic fancy is able to denote as "not my like large cajun keister" and wonders why the rest of society derides him.
Two brief quotes from my ol' drill sergeant (also a Cajun) should suffice...
"No sense in bein' ig'nant less'n you wanna' go an' show ev'body what ya ig'nant 'bout..."
"Don't go and p*$$ in my wheaties and expect to get respect. You want respect, you play by the rules, son. It really not that hard."
(I can hear his voice, but not quite the accent, not funnin' on Cajun's - but the commonsense approach of that backwoods philosopher strikes truer than this... dreck... that is passing for a... academic paper? WT... H?) 
*notes that independent of his "study", Twixt seems to immensely enjoy the conflict of PVP be it in-game or on the forums*
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As part of his experiment, Myers decided to play the game by the designers' rules -- disregarding any customs set by the players. His character soon became very unpopular.
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http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...fessor_be.html
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"All those people were mean to me just because I griefed them, so I'll show them! I'll write a BOOK!"
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This is over the top mental slavery.
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As part of his experiment, Myers decided to play the game by the designers' rules -- disregarding any customs set by the players. His character soon became very unpopular.
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http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...fessor_be.html
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"All those people were mean to me just because I griefed them, so I'll show them! I'll write a BOOK!"
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So ummm let's take a look shall we.
Somebody has a pretty dynamic style of gameplay.
A farmer/fight cluber who complains when being bothered while farming and fight clubbing but... says the arena is for 1v1, uses ncps to fight, calls people and uses words like "male genitalia", "negative word used to describe homosexuals" and lastly "one of the least desirable words for sex".
Let's not forget that somone around here posted a flame of Twixt in the Freedom section that was modded/deleted.
***EDIT*** I'm glad you mentioned this.
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Half the time I just ignored him but every once in a while I would toss out a comment just to further frustrate him.
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Hypocrite much?
Grief much?
Lie much?
Build more myths about Twixt much?
It is attitudes like this (and lack of game knowledge) that have caused some of the community to look down on Twixt. Some of you who have been complaining have not PvPed, don't know the PvP rules, follow hear say only, neglect the fact that you have had your fair share of negative comments on these boards and ingame.
Twixt's methods are being looked at but that does not discount the points/goals of the paper and it is pretty clear (looks at some in the community) that Twixts obsevations were correct.
I'm loving this community of angels-who-do-no-wrong and would rather try to burn someone at the stake then admit the above to be true.
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Okay not only am I convinced this Optical Illusion guy is Twixt on an alt account but does anybody understand just what the heck he's talking about with this response?
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till he has something worth saying, I'd take everything like a grain of salt from him.
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And Optical I have no idea what the point of your post was. I'm not being mean, I just don't get it.
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I think he is trying to say that anyone who presents evidence against Mr. Myers is a liar and that somehow we are all the bad ones.
Since I'm in a quoting mood, I'll share one of my favorite quotes from Richard A. Bartle, author of Designing Virtual Worlds. While I don't agree with everything Bartle has to say about virtual worlds, this segment of the chapter "It's Not a Game, It's a..." has always resounded with me.
(this quote is from pp 474-475 of the paperback edition copyrighted in 2004 by New Riders Publishing)
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Virtual worlds are places. Remember that, and many design issues cease to be issues at all. People go to places, do things there, and then they go home.
Virtual worlds are not simulations, because they don't simulate anything. They approximate aspects of reality--enough for the purposes of immersion--but that's all.
Virtual worlds are not services. Yes, providing access to them is a service of importance--they can't exist otherwise. However, that doesn't mean the virtual worlds themselves are services. Restaurants provide a service, but the food they serve isn't a service.
Virtual worlds are not a medium. Well, let's put it this way: If they are, then so is the real world. A medium is a channel open for communication with a (large) number of individuals. Although most virtual worlds do have such channels within them, they are not intrinsically channels themselves. You can play in a virtual world without communicating with any of the other players.
Most certainly of all, virtual worlds are not games. Even the ones written to be games are not games. People can play games in them, sure, and they can be set up that end, but this merely makes them venues. The Pasadena Rose Bowl is a stadium, not a game.
Virtual worlds are places. They may simulate abstractions of reality; they may operate as a service; creating them may be an art; people may visit them to play games. Ultimately though, they're just a set of locations. Places.
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The professor's problem is that he expected a game and got a place.