Discussion: 51 Month and 54 Month Veteran Rewards

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Nice announcement.

3 other Villains helms to complete the collection in icon. as for the question of the recycling of prievious Vet powers vs adding new and or the natural being uber with two ranged attacks, Um No.

Being able to select Axe over Sands was always an animation issue both are great powers.

Staff is for Natural Tech and Science to get bonus

Wand is for Magic and Mutant to get bonus

Natural doesn't get to double dip any more than any other AT set who could chose both for ranged, but only one of the items would get the bonus damage for matching your AT.


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Actually if memory is working right:

Science/Tech/Natural =Nemesis Staff buff

Mutant/Magic/Natural =Black Wand Buff

So yes Natural can "Double dip"

Edit: here's the text from the Vet Reward Page for the 33 month badge that offers Nem/Blackwand choice:

"The Nemesis staff is a steam-powered staff that shoots bolts of energy that deal damage, and knocks back foes. Characters of Science, Technology, or Natural, origin get a bonus to their damage when using this power. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Long.

The Blackwand is a black metal wand that feels cold in the hand, and glows with dark arcane energies. It decreases the chance enemies will hit you when they are affected by it’s magics. When used by those of Magic, Natural, or Mutant origin, it increases the potency of its attacks. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Long."

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Wow thats interesting , however the Vet announcement page is actually wrong and wasn't fixed. screenshot as of today of the ingame text.

33 month Vet Reward

It would have been cool if you could, as I have too many Natural Style Heroes. sorry guys thems the facts.

Valor

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Perhaps try creating two different natural origin characters and take either reward and test it... the in game text is incorrect.

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Nice announcement.

3 other Villains helms to complete the collection in icon. as for the question of the recycling of prievious Vet powers vs adding new and or the natural being uber with two ranged attacks, Um No.

Being able to select Axe over Sands was always an animation issue both are great powers.

Staff is for Natural Tech and Science to get bonus

Wand is for Magic and Mutant to get bonus

Natural doesn't get to double dip any more than any other AT set who could chose both for ranged, but only one of the items would get the bonus damage for matching your AT.


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Actually if memory is working right:

Science/Tech/Natural =Nemesis Staff buff

Mutant/Magic/Natural =Black Wand Buff

So yes Natural can "Double dip"

Edit: here's the text from the Vet Reward Page for the 33 month badge that offers Nem/Blackwand choice:

"The Nemesis staff is a steam-powered staff that shoots bolts of energy that deal damage, and knocks back foes. Characters of Science, Technology, or Natural, origin get a bonus to their damage when using this power. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Long.

The Blackwand is a black metal wand that feels cold in the hand, and glows with dark arcane energies. It decreases the chance enemies will hit you when they are affected by it’s magics. When used by those of Magic, Natural, or Mutant origin, it increases the potency of its attacks. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Long."

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Wow thats interesting , however the Vet announcement page is actually wrong and wasn't fixed. screenshot as of today of the ingame text.

33 month Vet Reward

It would have been cool if you could, as I have too many Natural Style Heroes. sorry guys thems the facts.

Valor

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The in-game text is actually the one that's incorrect. The Vet Reward website is correct.

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I've been wanting the other Arachnos helms for a while now so the 51 month is great news to me.

54 month however is just rehashed, least give us an option to other Temp powers in the game. Something that would be cool is a temp shield that last 30 seconds and can on be used once every 30 minutes. Example is the wedding band or the lord recluse power shield. That would be something to look forward too

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Personally, I see all Vet Rewards as small bonuses for having played this long. Therefore, I look forward to some, and not so much to others. I have no complaints about them, the Devs never needed to give them to me, and they don't effect any of my characters so much that if they were suddenly gone I'd be lost.

On that note, I'm also glad I didnt spend $200 on amazon.com on the preorder CoV, and tho I may never even use the helms, it's great to have the option. For the temp powers, oh well, another range attack for me. No complaints there either.

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Oh my gosh. Flurry + Shadow Maul + Sands of Mu (temp) + Sands of Mu (12 month) + Sands of Mu (54 month)? AWESOME.

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I mean what is the point of ordering early just to have your bonus taken away at a future date?

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To get the bonus two years earlier than everyone else? Heck, what's the point of ordering early if you're just going to die on some future date?

I've never used the Arachnos helm I have. I'm looking forward to trying out the others, but I doubt if I'll get much use out of them. Another attack is always nice even if it isn't amazing or unique. Tagging runners with my scrapper just keeps getting easier.

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Personally, I see all Vet Rewards as small bonuses for having played this long. Therefore, I look forward to some, and not so much to others. I have no complaints about them, the Devs never needed to give them to me, and they don't effect any of my characters so much that if they were suddenly gone I'd be lost.

On that note, I'm also glad I didnt spend $200 on amazon.com on the preorder CoV, and tho I may never even use the helms, it's great to have the option. For the temp powers, oh well, another range attack for me. No complaints there either.

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Don't confuse the preorder w/ the collector's edition - they are completely different things w/ different bonuses. The colelctor's edition had the arachnos cape, the special chest emblem, the badge, and I think yet a different arachnos helm. It's only the preorder helms that being given as vet rewards...

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13 months until helms -- maybe I'll have unlocked VEATs by then ( ' ;

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Would make for an excellent speeder style hero thats for sure

As for the Staff/Wand natural thing I'm taking it to the experts. Still gonna hit test and do some creating to test it myself.

Valor

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Id like to finally be able to get the Power Slide !!!!

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Would make for an excellent speeder style hero thats for sure

As for the Staff/Wand natural thing I'm taking it to the experts. Still gonna hit test and do some creating to test it myself.

Valor

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Go ahead; you'll see that what the others have said is quite true. Natural origin characters get the bonus for both the Nemesis Staff and the Blackwand.

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Id like to finally be able to get the Power Slide !!!!

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IIRC, that's from the collector's edition, and if so, won't happen.

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Yeah the rest of the Pre-Order Helms were overdue...

I don't see the problem - IE the people feeling jipped that they already had one from the Pre-Order.
(I mean I have one of those helms, but I don't have any characters that actually wear one.)

The reality is that if you get them anytime soon - odds are you had one from the pre-order, right?

Anywho,

I do wish they'd picked some different Temp Powers for the 54 Month Reward. I'm guessing they did this to reduce the amount of whining from people with little Vet-Time.

As in - "Hey they're not new or over-powered, they're already balanced and available and haven't Broken the game yet..." or that sort of thing.

I can't imagine it would've been that difficult to have given us a choice between a few of the other Temp Powers.

Maybe from the ones you can get in the Safeguard mission "Weapons Deal" or any of the Temp powers that don't go poof at the end of a mission, like so many of the mission temps do.

And animation-wise they're already in the game, so I have to think this is a "lets limit/avoid balance arguments regarding New Vet Reward Powers".
That said the whole - "Choose the one you don't already have" is really underwhelming/disappointing.

I'd bet 95% of the time people will be picking whichever ranged attack they didn't take the first time - Unless they're picking one for RP purposes or they accidentally picked the Axe the first time - I think it's generally accepted/agreed that the Axe sucks!
(Unless it happens to fit a particular Character - but again that really for RP purposes...)

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"The U.S. is in no more danger of coming under Sharia law than it is the rules of Fight Club." - Will McAvoy.

One would think that if they're going to give the Arachnos helm's for the 51's badge that they would also give the unifroms that goes with them as well..

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Oh my gosh. Flurry + Shadow Maul + Sands of Mu (temp) + Sands of Mu (12 month) + Sands of Mu (54 month)? AWESOME.

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As has already been stated, you wouldn't be able to take Sands of Mu twice.

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Oh my gosh. Flurry + Shadow Maul + Sands of Mu (temp) + Sands of Mu (12 month) + Sands of Mu (54 month)? AWESOME.

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According to the 54 month vet reward page, you can't pick a power you already have.

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Weak. At least they could have been slightly more creative instead of rehashing old rewards.

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Id like to finally be able to get the Power Slide !!!!

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IIRC, that's from the collector's edition, and if so, won't happen.

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EDIT: MY BAD
I THOUGHT it was in the Prestige Sprints Vet Reward, its not.

I got it from the CoH DVD Collector's Edition - and the silly little Statesman Heroclix mini... (The most reviled Heroclix ever )

It's power slide IS kinda neat - not having your toons legs "running", but its not spectacular or anything - it just looks kinda spiffy, if you like purple. *shrug*

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"The U.S. is in no more danger of coming under Sharia law than it is the rules of Fight Club." - Will McAvoy.

So when do I get the power slide?

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Ok as the game sees it ALL Veteran Powers are TEMPORARY Powers.

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Doesn't matter, they aren't going anywhere. They don't have a timer, number of uses, or duration. You keep them forever.

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Just pointing out that if you set "no temp powers" in a flashback or Master of Statesman TF or Master of Recluse SF, all those shiny vet powers get disabled.

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Ok as the game sees it ALL Veteran Powers are TEMPORARY Powers.

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Doesn't matter, they aren't going anywhere. They don't have a timer, number of uses, or duration. You keep them forever.

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Just pointing out that if you set "no temp powers" in a flashback or Master of Statesman TF or Master of Recluse SF, all those shiny vet powers get disabled.

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That'd be completely legitimate if it's what he was talking about, but in his previous post he said

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Oh I wouldn't get to cozy with those nice Vet powers either as it seems they are Temporary Powers anyway. I imagine they will go sometime in the future as most TEMPS do.


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As a sidenote, they won't work in the arena either, which is actually kind of nice.

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Id like to finally be able to get the Power Slide !!!!

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IIRC, that's from the collector's edition, and if so, won't happen.

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It's included in the Prestige Sprints Vet Reward, I like it for characters that I don't want to see a "running" animation on, if you're zoomed in close it also smooths out the Camera a bit as well.

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No, it's not. Slide is not in the Veteran Reward program at all, certainly not with the other Prestige Sprints.

You can only have Slide from the City of Heroes Collectors Edition. Originally $80, now at Big Lots for $10.

Comparison of CoH/V Editions and what you get.

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And so, Slide will never be a Vet Reward since it came with a paid-for retail box. No pay-for item will be given away freely according to policy.

The Prestige Sprints (other than Slide) and the Arachnos Helmets were both bonuses for pre-order. No one ever paid extra for pre-order (and if you did, you get ripped off). You paid the same amount you would as if you didn't pre-order, but, by pre-ordering, you got two free gifts: The prestige costume bits and the ability to play the three day head start.

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One would think that if they're going to give the Arachnos helm's for the 51's badge that they would also give the unifroms that goes with them as well..

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Not a chance.

The reason that LiquidX won't be [u]as[u] upset as some would think is that no one paid for the pre-order helms. On the other hand a lot of people would be upset if NCNC decided to make items that people had to buy (pay real money for) available as a part of the Vet Rewards.

Positron has stated on these forums that anything that is Paid for by real money will never be a part of the vet rewards system.

The list of those is: Cape of the Four Winds, VIP/Destined One badge, Prestige Power Slide, CoV CE Arachnos Cape *1*, CoV CE Arachnos Chest symbol *2*.

*1* CoV CE Arachnos Cape: VEATs soldiers have a version of this cape, but it isn't the same.
*2* CoV CE Arachnos Chest symbol: There is a vet reward version that doesn't look exactly like the CE version, and the VEAT chest symbols cannot be colored the same way as the CE edition.

As to the uniforms, you can have the uniforms. All you have to do is get a villain to level 50.

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And so, Slide will never be a Vet Reward since it came with a paid-for retail box. No pay-for item will be given away freely according to policy.

The Prestige Sprints (other than Slide) and the Arachnos Helmets were both bonuses for pre-order. No one ever paid extra for pre-order (and if you did, you get ripped off). You paid the same amount you would as if you didn't pre-order, but, by pre-ordering, you got two free gifts: The prestige costume bits and the ability to play the three day head start.

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Actually some people paid upwards of $100 for some of the sprints.

As a side note, I feel I got plenty of value for the $3 I spent for the Arachnos helm (actually 2:wolf/crab), and don't feel slightly ripped off that they are finally releasing the helms. In fact, I actually hoped they would have done it sooner. I got my 36 month vet reward in May.

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