Some people just need to be a pain in the [censored] it seems.
Edit: To clarify, talking about the OP.
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Hey BAB, has there been any news lately on the development of that Psionic Weaponry set? I'd love to know if my hopes for it are at least remotely founded.
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Castle makes a strange noise whenever it's mentioned.
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Probably due to reasons of mechanics: Psi being the second least-resisted damage type would make it vicious on a primary damage archetype, but quite acceptable as a specialist form of damage for defenders, dominators, and controllers.
What's odd is that Toxic, the least resisted damage type, has it's own primary damage set (or is it more like a little sauce on top of Lethal, I'll have to check the numbers . . .)
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Current Thunderbird
Nightcrawler
Deadpool
Just off the top of my head.
And now add to the list:
Me, on a scrapper and a brute as of I-11.
Sucks to be you.
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Let's add to this list with blade like appendages.
Venom.
Carnage.
Toxin.
Lady Deathstrike.
And for people saying it doesn't suit the superhero genre?
Well, let's be honest. CoH has a lot of other genres in it. CoT, Wailers, the Mu. All supernatural types. Then you have other references to the supernatural in the different ghosts and spectres available.
And we are of course forgetting one big name who uses blades.
Blade.
Then we can dabble into the fact that Wolverine has used blades in the past. As has Captain Britain. Thor actually uses a damn warhammer which isn't exactly iconic hero in its nature and closer to mythology and fantasy.
It's not the appearance or equipment used by a 'hero' that makes them as such. It's the reasons they fight. This game encourages creativity and allows people to create their own characters.
'It doesn't belong in the genre.'
Uh huh. Tell yourself that. Superheroes ain't exactly a staple genre itself, having a mix of westerns, war stories, fantasy, high adventure, sci fi and horror in it...
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I'd say there are more precedents for dual blade-wielding comic book characters than for clawed ones or hammer users. I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.
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Yeah, about that. Other than Wolverine, is there even ONE other character in a comic book anywhere to use claws from the hands? I'm seriously asking here, because I don't know of any.
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Faust . I am pretty sure not many people have read it. I only found about it during the teen rebelion, Death metal phase of my live. They even made a movie about him.
Edit: Billz beat em to it. Impressed on him knowing that one.
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I think the point of this post is enough with the weapons already. I hope that after DB, new powersets will be more mainstream heroish.
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No mocap!
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How about icecap?
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Hey BAB, has there been any news lately on the development of that Psionic Weaponry set? I'd love to know if my hopes for it are at least remotely founded.
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Castle makes a strange noise whenever it's mentioned.
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For some reason this gave me a good laugh...and actually is continuing to do so. 
But still I fear and still I dare not laugh at the madman!
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Procrastination meter coming soon.
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Oooh, I see, because because Nixon got in twice, then the people of the time were morons?
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Yes. 
Dec out.
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I think the point of this post is enough with the weapons already. I hope that after DB, new powersets will be more mainstream heroish.
[/ QUOTE ]I agree, we don't need City of Warcraft. But if you're going to add a weapon with new animations, where is the love for the bo staff? I would LOVE to a make a bo staff scrapper! That's a weapon AND mainstream superhero stuff.
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I think the point of this post is enough with the weapons already. I hope that after DB, new powersets will be more mainstream heroish.
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Yeah, but what melee sets are there which are mainstream comic-ish? The only two I can think of are Shields (and then you hit the Wolverine problem of only one guy actually using this) and the Bo Staff. Psychic melee weapons are pretty much Psylocke only.
Other than that it's a wash. When in melee most heroes punch and kick, or use a bladed weapon. I suppose the tanker melee weapons (mace, axe) could be ported to other ATs, but what else is there?
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The problem is ONLY that scrappers, as an AT, don't need more blades; they have already got claws, katana, and broadsword. What scrappers need is more unarmed combat, probably, or something "different". Stalkers also are fairly well stocked with blades, having ninja blade and claws, but having a 3rd option works well for them.
But Brutes and Tankers can definitely use the Blades option! Neither has any (well, Tankers have Axe, if that counts, but it doesn't really).
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that Night Stick one was downright offensive.
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Imagine how offended you would be if they gave the LAPD dual blades
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Hey BAB, has there been any news lately on the development of that Psionic Weaponry set? I'd love to know if my hopes for it are at least remotely founded.
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Castle makes a strange noise whenever it's mentioned.
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lol
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Oooh, I see, because because Nixon got in twice, then the people of the time were morons?
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Yes.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Futuresight is hazy at best.
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I think the point of this post is enough with the weapons already. I hope that after DB, new powersets will be more mainstream heroish.
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The point of this post is that Super Heroes DON'T kill people, and that it's pretty much impossible to arrest someone using a pair of knives and NOT kill them.
I have no problem with CoV and dual blades, it fits the bad guy motif quite well, but CoH? Gimmie a break.
It's funny, I looked over my 2 servers full of heroes, and out of the "killer" weapons (katana, axe, broad sword, claws, mace, assault rifle) I have a grand total of 1 character. That being a lvl 1 katana using joke toon named "Wild Bill Kelso". So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?
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I liked the idea of billy clubs/escrima (Dare Devil, Nightwing sticks too. I thought the vote was for dual weapons not blades, but what ever. I am pretty happy with there being a dual weapon set comming.
In truth I am more excited about this issue than any in recent memory.
For those complaining about the lethal dmg aspect of it: There is still so much that can be done with the invention system. They could do rare Procs that add a perma type to an attack. That would be far cooler than doing a set based on it. And would add even more ED.
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The point of this post is that Super Heroes DON'T kill people, and that it's pretty much impossible to arrest someone using a pair of knives and NOT kill them.
I have no problem with CoV and dual blades, it fits the bad guy motif quite well, but CoH? Gimmie a break.
It's funny, I looked over my 2 servers full of heroes, and out of the "killer" weapons (katana, axe, broad sword, claws, mace, assault rifle) I have a grand total of 1 character. That being a lvl 1 katana using joke toon named "Wild Bill Kelso". So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?
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Plenty of heroes kill. PLENTY of them.
Which debunks the entire point of your post.
Don't push your concept of heroes onto other people's. Even with none of my heroes that ever kill, I can think of several nonlethal variants of said weaponry.
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So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?
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Because your point of view isn't necessarily shared by others playing the game?
Just a guess...
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I think the point of this post is enough with the weapons already. I hope that after DB, new powersets will be more mainstream heroish.
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The point of this post is that Super Heroes DON'T kill people, and that it's pretty much impossible to arrest someone using a pair of knives and NOT kill them.
I have no problem with CoV and dual blades, it fits the bad guy motif quite well, but CoH? Gimmie a break.
It's funny, I looked over my 2 servers full of heroes, and out of the "killer" weapons (katana, axe, broad sword, claws, mace, assault rifle) I have a grand total of 1 character. That being a lvl 1 katana using joke toon named "Wild Bill Kelso". So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?
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You left out Spines. There is very little chance that they survive being Impaled. When three 3-4ft long tubes go through a human torso, it tends to be bad. Oh, and the poision that goes with that 
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Other than that it's a wash. When in melee most heroes punch and kick, or use a bladed weapon. I suppose the tanker melee weapons (mace, axe) could be ported to other ATs, but what else is there?
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The vast majority simply punch and kick. I realize there is a list in this thread of comic heroes who use blades, including claws of some kind, but compared to the total number of comic book superheroes, very, very, very few use blades.
You are absolutely right about scrappers have more than enough weapon sets. Personally, I like playing scrappers and I don't really like concepts with blades. That's why I haven't been happy about dual blades.
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The point of this post is that Super Heroes DON'T kill people, and that it's pretty much impossible to arrest someone using a pair of knives and NOT kill them.
I have no problem with CoV and dual blades, it fits the bad guy motif quite well, but CoH? Gimmie a break.
It's funny, I looked over my 2 servers full of heroes, and out of the "killer" weapons (katana, axe, broad sword, claws, mace, assault rifle) I have a grand total of 1 character. That being a lvl 1 katana using joke toon named "Wild Bill Kelso". So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?
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Plenty of heroes kill. PLENTY of them.
Which debunks the entire point of your post.
Don't push your concept of heroes onto other people's. Even with none of my heroes that ever kill, I can think of several nonlethal variants of said weaponry.
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You REALLY need to read the CoH back story.
http://www.cityofheroes.com/gameinfo/paragon_city.html
Pay close attention to the part about "Citizen Crime Fighting Act". Did you ever wonder why the 1st thing you do in Paragon City is go to City Hall? Trust me, if your character killed someone (or even cut off their hands) you would find yourself bent over, looking for the soap in the Zig faster then you can say "Chris Jenkins, attorney at law".
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Here, I'll make it easy.
"The city council and mayoral elections of 1936 swept a platform of pro-hero candidates that resulted in the passage of the Citizen Crime Fighting Act of 1937. This law made it legal for vigilantes to bring criminals to justice as long as they followed the same restrictions police officers use."
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Im curious on 1 thing that keep bothering me:
Its always mentioned as "Dual Blades", but everyone assume its dual swords.
When I hear Dual Blades I think of:
1) Two swords, like two one-handed swords.
2) Sword & Dagger combo.
3) Polerarm (staff) with a blade on each end.
My train of though would be that stalkers/scrappers would get 2 swords or the sword/dagger style and that Brutes/Tanks would get the polerarm/staff style.
I only mention the polerarm/staff for the brutes cause its hard for me to picture a brute/tank going into battle with 2 swords, but I can see them with a huge polerarm/staff with 2 blades going into battle.
Does anyone know for sure *what* dual blades is?
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Here, I'll make it easy.
"The city council and mayoral elections of 1936 swept a platform of pro-hero candidates that resulted in the passage of the Citizen Crime Fighting Act of 1937. This law made it legal for vigilantes to bring criminals to justice as long as they followed the same restrictions police officers use."
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I'm pretty sure police officers are permitted to use their weapons to kill in self defense.
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
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The point of this post is that Super Heroes DON'T kill people, and that it's pretty much impossible to arrest someone using a pair of knives and NOT kill them.
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Correction: Dual Blades. Still don't know if they're going to be super exotic weaponry or something a little more familiar. Also, the game clearly says defeat. Not arrest. I believe Statesman has said in the past that it is up to the player to decide for themselves what defeating enemies means to them. If you're lacking the creative juices to roleplay your own way to arrest the bad guys with such weapons then simply ignore the powerset. If you wish that it were something else that won out, tough cookies! People voted, developers weighed them in with some other unmentioned factors and voila, it was chosen for production.
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I have no problem with CoV and dual blades, it fits the bad guy motif quite well, but CoH? Gimmie a break.
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Again, tough cookies. This is a game. Not a simulator. Through the player and official polls I've seen in the past on these forums what I've noticed was the hot item were usually the new ways to kick butt (IE new powersets) option.
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It's funny, I looked over my 2 servers full of heroes, and out of the "killer" weapons (katana, axe, broad sword, claws, mace, assault rifle) I have a grand total of 1 character. That being a lvl 1 katana using joke toon named "Wild Bill Kelso". So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?
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We need another thread complaining about this...
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