CoH needs more blades...


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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.


 

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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.

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Didn't DB win the poll and Willpower the one that was easiest to implement that scored the highest (since Shields won that part?)


 

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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.

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Didn't DB win the poll and Willpower the one that was easiest to implement that scored the highest (since Shields won that part?)

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There's all of zero need to have more than one melee weapon power in the game, and more than one ranged. Game effects can be identical - all that matters between them is the animation.

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...Right, because theres absolutely no difference between wielding a sword and wielding a mace, or between firing a gun and shooting with a bow and arrow. [/sarcasm]

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Due to game mechanics there is only two differences betwen all of those. Range and crushing vs lethal. We all ready have several lethal and crushing melee attack. So dual physical blades is redundant. Its too bad limited resources cant be spent on better ideas. This is the whole motorcycle travel power idea all over again.


 

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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.

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Didn't DB win the poll and Willpower the one that was easiest to implement that scored the highest (since Shields won that part?)

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DB, Shields, Street Fighting and Willpower won. However DB and Shields being a lot of time to make they decided to pair them off with one that had an easier method of creating.


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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Seriously, you've lost, please just back out peacefully. Duel blades are here because we voted for them with streetfighting, willpower and shields. The Devs made a good call by giving us a hard powerset to animate and an easy one instead of 2 easy ones and two hard ones. If you don't like the set, don't use them, no one's forcing you to.

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The vote again. Well lets be clear on this. "The people" voted for shields, yet we aren't going to get them, so Cryptic has already set the precedent . Just because "the people" voted for something doesn't take away Statesman's veto power.

States, l am calling you out again! DON'T GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE!!!! Do the RIGHT thing!

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It funny that you keep talking and want to make enemies with everyone, even though you have no idea what you're talking about. They gave us a list of powersets they could make, let me help you out with key words, " They gave us a list of powersets they could make."

There were even notes about shields being a defensive set that'd take a large amount of time because of the animations. The whole Dev team knew what they were getting into as they gave the list and acting better than a lot of MMO Devs they gave us the choice of what we want next. States isn't some evil guy who sits around going, "We'll do a poll to see what they want and not give it to them. Maybe they'll hope we'll realease it later and that'll keep their subscription. /e evillaugh*"

* Note: Would you take States seriously if he did say "slash ie evil laugh"?


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.

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Didn't DB win the poll and Willpower the one that was easiest to implement that scored the highest (since Shields won that part?)

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correct

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DB, Shields, Street Fighting and Willpower won. However DB and Shields being a lot of time to make they decided to pair them off with one that had an easier method of creating.

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Just so more people are aware of the results of the poll:

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Dual Blades was the winner of the "offensive powerset" poll. Psionic Weaponry was second, and Street Fighting was a distant third (but strangely had huge forum support in the discussions).

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Personally, I didn't want another 'blade' set either unless the blade was on a stick (spear/pike/halberd) or the blade was made of something different. I voted for Energy Blade and Psionic Weaponry but you don't hear me crying. If the devs are putting effort into the new set to make it look cool, then I'll surely make a cool-to-me concept for them and play them.

If you continue to read Positron's post, he says they are making Shield melee, but it'll take time to get all the animations together and make it look nice and cool. Even though it was the winner, the attention that shields needed was going to Dual blades (and Willpower requiring very little attention overall works in the set's favor especially because it was the runner up).

I hope the devs do more polls like this. Next poll up should be ranged sets and control sets!


 

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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.

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Um yes. There are NOT a ton of concept chars who use shields at all who wouldn't just be copying what captain america does with a shield. Please do tell me, if you can who else goes around throwing their shield around like he does? He is SO the basis for this Shield Power. Cause otherwise it's just "Oh I blocked your power. I'm not hurt." Which isn't terribly exciting.


 

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Shields though is a VERY specific power that only one character I know of uses: Captain America. So I can see why that wouldn't be included when its a pretty obvious infringment/ripoff.

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Um...no. Captain America does not corner the market on shields. There are a ton of concept characters that could be made using shields. There's a ton that will be made using DB too. The point was that DB did not win the poll. It was just the easier one to implement. Personally, I'm glad they're adding any new set at this point. The devs have really been too slow at getting new sets in the game. They need to add these two, and then a lot more.

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Didn't DB win the poll and Willpower the one that was easiest to implement that scored the highest (since Shields won that part?)

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correct

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DB, Shields, Street Fighting and Willpower won. However DB and Shields being a lot of time to make they decided to pair them off with one that had an easier method of creating.

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Just so more people are aware of the results of the poll

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Whoops, my bad, I never actually read that.


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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That said, I still hate dual blades, but people voted for it. And plurality * $15 > minority * $15, and thats what it comes down to.

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The poll wasn't the only deciding factor for doing Dual Blades as the next powerset.


 

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FIRST!


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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not to mention the animation will be ripped from the exsisting powersets making it not even close to being new.

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Every attack animation for Dual Blades is completely new. Both Stalkers and the other AT versions.


 

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not to mention the animation will be ripped from the exsisting powersets making it not even close to being new.


i look at it as a iron blade temp power gone wild..it wont be flashy,neat or cool..it'll be simple im sure


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...Have you even BOTHERED to read anything the Dev's have said about Dual Blades? They already said it was having new animations.

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Which is one of the reasons that BAB had those sticks in the pic of his cubicle. He needed them to try out different attack motions. Animators do that quite often, so they can tweak the way it looks in the game. If I recall from the behind the scenes documentaries for some films, BAB would probably have attached to the sticks and to himself (or others that were trying out the new moves) sensors/reflectors which is used to help record movements and placement of the blades and the character.

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No mocap!


 

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Hey BAB, has there been any news lately on the development of that Psionic Weaponry set? I'd love to know if my hopes for it are at least remotely founded.


"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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Hey BAB, has there been any news lately on the development of that Psionic Weaponry set? I'd love to know if my hopes for it are at least remotely founded.

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Castle makes a strange noise whenever it's mentioned.


 

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I hope that's a good strange noise and not a bad one. Show him a picture of Harley Quinn and compare sounds, then get back to me.


"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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Hey BAB, has there been any news lately on the development of that Psionic Weaponry set? I'd love to know if my hopes for it are at least remotely founded.

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Castle makes a strange noise whenever it's mentioned.

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He should see someone about that.


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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FIRST!

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*Bashes with a gigantic frying pan*


 

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FIRST!

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*Bashes with a gigantic frying pan*



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Hey, I had to do it at least once.


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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I normally let it slide and tell myself they will see how people usually handle dev posts here and feel foolish about it later.

For some reason I just HAD to smash you.

I feel like smashing you now.. for no reason at all.


 

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I noramlly don't like it either but I just wanted to do it once.


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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That probably explains the urge.. You should know better!

Shame!


 

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Waha!


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

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I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.

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Hawkman and Hawkgirl from DC.

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Plus the old Thunderstrike from Marvel, technically he used a Mace instead of a Hammer




"Well, there's going to be some light music and a short note of apology saying, 'The universe ended last week, we're really sorry, we don't know what you're doing here, didn't you get the message?'"- Steve Moffat

 

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I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.

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Hawkman and Hawkgirl from DC.

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Plus the old Thunderstrike from Marvel, technically he used a Mace instead of a Hammer

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don't forget flagsmasher... =P