CoH needs more blades...


AlexEss

 

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So how do I arrest someone with a pair of knives? Stab them till they are almost dead? It seems to me that for every comic book "hero" who kills people, there are 100 who refuse to take a life. Yet CoH is filled with gun toting, axe murdering "heroes".

The name of the game is "City of Heroes" people. Not, "City of Dark Heroes", "City of Murdering Heroes" or "City of Anti-Heroes". Hell, they already made City of Villains for you folks, now hows about something for the good guys.

Here's a quick list of powers that would be much more in keeping with the "good guys don't kill theme" that so much of the comic book mythos is based on.

1. Bo staffs. Not some Gandalf wizard staff, im talking Bruce Lee.

2. Night Stick. Nothing says justice like a good old fashioned LAPD beat down.

3. Nun-chucks. Non lethal, and super cool.

4. Hockey Stick. Some one mentioned that Leonardo used dual blades, well Casey Jones used a slap shot to fight crime.

5. 2x4. From Walking Tall to Hacksaw Jim Dugan, 5 feet of lumber has been a staple of justice for years.

6. Parking Meter. If I had a dime for every time someone got hit with a parking meter in comic book fights, I'd be a rich man.

7. Baseball Bat. Good old Louisville slugger, not the aluminum ones.

8. Brass Knuckles. Take THAT Skull boy!

9. Chain. Not the spawn style hooks, just a 5' long section of the home depot special.

10. Whip. Oh yeah, not just for cat-girls anymore! Hey Zorro used one too.


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Nuking the world since 1972

 

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The same way I 'arrest' people with a broadsword, axe, mace, poisonous spines, katana, setting them on fire, or freezing them.

Seriously, you've lost, please just back out peacefully. Duel blades are here because we voted for them with streetfighting, willpower and shields. The Devs made a good call by giving us a hard powerset to animate and an easy one instead of 2 easy ones and two hard ones. If you don't like the set, don't use them, no one's forcing you to.


@ShoRyu Kusanagi

The Unoffical Anime Junky of Justice

 

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Sorry you don't agree with the voting majority - many players did vote on this, after all. No need to be a sore loser.

No need to call States out either - the decision was based off of player democracy, not a dictatorship.

If anything, call out the playerbase, although most would consider making enemies with the majority of players unwise.

Oops, a little late for that I suppose

Edit: for a refresher on the powersets presented for the vote, click here.


 

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So how do I arrest someone with a pair of knives? Stab them till they are almost dead? It seems to me that for every comic book "hero" who kills people, there are 100 who refuse to take a life.

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Sure, it's not knives... but take a look at Kenshin! (better yet, start with Samurai X) Guy wields a katana and manages not to kill people. Knocks 'em around a bit with the flat of his sword and they get all confused when they realize he hasn't vivisected them. (Oversimplified for expediency)

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This is like watching a train wreck. It's horrifying and yet I can't look away.


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So how do I arrest someone with a pair of knives? Stab them till they are almost dead? It seems to me that for every comic book "hero" who kills people, there are 100 who refuse to take a life. Yet CoH is filled with gun toting, axe murdering "heroes".

The name of the game is "City of Heroes" people. Not, "City of Dark Heroes", "City of Murdering Heroes" or "City of Anti-Heroes". Hell, they already made City of Villains for you folks, now hows about something for the good guys.

Here's a quick list of powers that would be much more in keeping with the "good guys don't kill theme" that so much of the comic book mythos is based on.

1. Bo staffs. Not some Gandalf wizard staff, im talking Bruce Lee.

2. Night Stick. Nothing says justice like a good old fashioned LAPD beat down.

3. Nun-chucks. Non lethal, and super cool.

4. Hockey Stick. Some one mentioned that Leonardo used dual blades, well Casey Jones used a slap shot to fight crime.

5. 2x4. From Walking Tall to Hacksaw Jim Dugan, 5 feet of lumber has been a staple of justice for years.

6. Parking Meter. If I had a dime for every time someone got hit with a parking meter in comic book fights, I'd be a rich man.

7. Baseball Bat. Good old Louisville slugger, not the aluminum ones.

8. Brass Knuckles. Take THAT Skull boy!

9. Chain. Not the spawn style hooks, just a 5' long section of the home depot special.

10. Whip. Oh yeah, not just for cat-girls anymore! Hey Zorro used one too.

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While I disagree with your original post, some of these I like.

Except Brass Knuckles. Not much difference between that and Street Fighting. Heck, you could RP having Brass Knucks.

And that Night Stick one was downright offensive.


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I heard one player here once explain how his claw scrapper took down criminals without having to kill. Something along the lines of surgically precise strikes to key parts of the body. Doing enough damage to incapacitate somebody, but not quite enough to permanantly maim or kill. Dual blades could work the same way.
Likewise, I've heard of real-life counterparts to Kenshin- Samurai who used wooden swords in place of steel, or wielded dull blades- they could still fight if they had to, but were far less likely to take a life.

Admittedly I would ALSO like to see a staff or nunchuck wielding scrapper, those would be fun powersets as well.


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So how do I arrest someone with a pair of knives? Stab them till they are almost dead? It seems to me that for every comic book "hero" who kills people, there are 100 who refuse to take a life. Yet CoH is filled with gun toting, axe murdering "heroes".

The name of the game is "City of Heroes" people. Not, "City of Dark Heroes", "City of Murdering Heroes" or "City of Anti-Heroes". Hell, they already made City of Villains for you folks, now hows about something for the good guys.

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4. Hockey Stick. Some one mentioned that Leonardo used dual blades, well Casey Jones used a slap shot to fight crime.

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Uh huh. And Casey Jones was also a Vigilante, who would severely beat criminals (Even accidently killing a mugger in the old Mirage comics). So that kind of scuttles the whole "Non Dark Hero" thing.


 

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I'd say there are more precedents for dual blade-wielding comic book characters than for clawed ones or hammer users. I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.

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Yeah, about that. Other than Wolverine, is there even ONE other character in a comic book anywhere to use claws from the hands? I'm seriously asking here, because I don't know of any.


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So how do I arrest someone with a pair of knives?

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You don't. Look at your system tab some time.

Seriously people... Where did this "arrest" phenomenon come from? There is nothing about it in the game anywhere that I can think of.


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I'd say there are more precedents for dual blade-wielding comic book characters than for clawed ones or hammer users. I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.

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Yeah, about that. Other than Wolverine, is there even ONE other character in a comic book anywhere to use claws from the hands? I'm seriously asking here, because I don't know of any.

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X-23


 

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So how do I arrest someone with a pair of knives?

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You don't. Look at your system tab some time.

Seriously people... Where did this "arrest" phenomenon come from? There is nothing about it in the game anywhere that I can think of.

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Because as Heroes, we can legally fight crime in Paragon City because we are forced to follow certain procedures (Much like the cops).


 

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A clone of Wolverine. I should have guessed

Is that the same woman that featured in the X-Men 2 movie? The one with spikes coming out of her fingers?


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And that Night Stick one was downright offensive.

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I laughed. Lately, it's the cops that are offending me daily.

On topic, yes, there were a lot of write in votes for a bo staff/quarterstaff. It would be a incredible to have that in game.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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A clone of Wolverine. I should have guessed

Is that the same woman that featured in the X-Men 2 movie? The one with spikes coming out of her fingers?

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No, that was Lady Deathstrike


 

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How many clones does that guy have?


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I'd say there are more precedents for dual blade-wielding comic book characters than for clawed ones or hammer users. I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.

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Yeah, about that. Other than Wolverine, is there even ONE other character in a comic book anywhere to use claws from the hands? I'm seriously asking here, because I don't know of any.

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X-23, but she's a Marvel created Wolvie clone.

And Faust.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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A clone of Wolverine. I should have guessed

Is that the same woman that featured in the X-Men 2 movie? The one with spikes coming out of her fingers?

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Noo, that's Lady Deathstrike.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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How many clones does that guy have?

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He's Wolverine.

He has as many clones needed to make Marvel the fat american loot.


 

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How many clones does that guy have?

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He's Wolverine.
He has as many clones needed to make Marvel the fat american loot.

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Hehe

I remember a review of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 for the arcades. There was a line along the lines of:

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Bone Wolverine. Yes, there's actually another Wolverine in the game with Bones instead of claws. His moves are virtually the same except he doesn't have his Weapon-X. So there are actually two wolverines in the game. What the hell were these guys thinking? "Well, we know people like Wolverine so much, so we'll just put in two of him!"

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I think I cracked my [censored] laughing about that one

Upon revision, I did remember one specific brand of characters who use wrist blades in combat - the Skaarj


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A clone of Wolverine. I should have guessed

Is that the same woman that featured in the X-Men 2 movie? The one with spikes coming out of her fingers?

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Noo, that's Lady Deathstrike.

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Jeeeeeaaaaannnn...o wait wrong chick... wonder what he will cry about in the next Xmen/Wolvie movie since she is gone?


 

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Jeeeeeaaaaannnn...o wait wrong chick... wonder what he will cry about in the next Xmen/Wolvie movie since she is gone?

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Speaking of that... in Van Helsing he does the same thing. And I swear to satan there was a third Hugh Jackman movie... ahh yes, The Prestige... has a woman die in his arms there, too.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Seriously, you've lost, please just back out peacefully. Duel blades are here because we voted for them with streetfighting, willpower and shields. The Devs made a good call by giving us a hard powerset to animate and an easy one instead of 2 easy ones and two hard ones. If you don't like the set, don't use them, no one's forcing you to.

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The vote again. Well lets be clear on this. "The people" voted for shields, yet we aren't going to get them, so Cryptic has already set the precedent . Just because "the people" voted for something doesn't take away Statesman's veto power.

States, l am calling you out again! DON'T GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE!!!! Do the RIGHT thing!


The ICBM
Nuking the world since 1972

 

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Oh we're apparently still getting shields, so all that was changed by Cryptic was the order that we're getting them.

I really hope they don't bother with shield melee. But as with all things, I don't have to choose it at character creation.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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You can't be serious. I just read this entire thread, and didnt see the single most obvious single/dual/small/large/whatever blade using character in comics.

BLADE.