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* Debt in PvP Zones. Currently we "Pro-Rate" debt depending on how much damage you took from NPCs vs. PCs. When this is fixed we will zero out any debt if the killing blow comes from PCs, and Pro-Rate debt if the killing blow comes from NPCs.

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Again, THANK YOU, but plz plz plz Hurry! It should have been in the last patch darnit




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* Salvage disappearing from storage objects. If you click too fast, some salvage may get lost in the transaction when pulling from a Storage Object. This is a high priority bug to fix.

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* Back Alley Brawler gives debt in Recluse's Victory. Yeah, he was not set up as "debt free". Sorry.

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So the Brawler not only pounds villains into the ground, he gives them debt too???? BWAHAHAHAHA. That's not a bug...THAT'S JUSTICE!!!


 

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However for all sub level 40 zones I think you'll find that to be the case. And since the Hollows is a hazard zone .....

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The Rikti Crash Site now has a hospital.

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Dark Astoria always had one.


 

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What about the global compensation/chat bug?
What about our Patron respecs still being borked?
Lag?
FPS problem?
Memory Leak?

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You forgot "No teleport surface detection beyond 100 yards getting teleporters killed because they can't get a valid teleport reticule in time to stop from falling to their doom."

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No, I did not He already addressed this issue (or believe me it would have been on that list!)!!


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So, dropping a mish will not give you the completed exp. But if you drop a mission from a story arc, will the arc continue? Or will the entire thing be dropped?

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I'd like to know this too--my assumption was that you could drop a mission, which would just put it back on the menu, as it were. That once you dropped it, the game would just act as if you had never taken it. So, if it's in a story arc, then it would be there again until you did it.

Other folks seem to think that it means they can "skip" the mission--advance the story arc without doing the mission. This seems unlikely to me, but what do I know? It would be really nice if we could get a redname to answer this--although it also seems possible that they aren't answering because they haven't decided yet either.


 

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Hey, Posi, anyone looking into the bug that prevents groupmates from entering your base?


 

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Will we be able to do this? Can you give an example of what WONT work? I'm not sure what the PL angle is from a mission perspective, I'm hoping a "some ruin it for the rest" thing wont prevent me from just being able to drop any mission and get a different one or a different contact.


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Actually, UnicyclePeon, there is an easy fix to the whole PL problem that we have had several threads about. Just have everyone in a team lower than the active mission level SK'd directly to it (just like a PvP zone SK). Then, adjust the XP rate accordingly. Problem solved (if the tech can handle it).

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Pling is no longer a "problem". There arent 800 ppl spamming the channels. The Plers do their thing, the non Plers do theres.

Oh, and you're system would make the normal lvl grind...a [censored]. Nobody would enjoy that.

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Add in some double XP or some teammates.

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For one, i dont want double exp all the time for average level difficulty enemies. It would just turn into double exp weekend all the time. No ty. And as for the teammates, ill consider it if you give me a couple thousand dollars for a new computer and internet so i could ACTUALLY do teams like that.


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For my Birthday I wanted a temporary name from Manticore himself.

However, the ability to drop missions anytime in the future makes me one happy girl.


 

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I gotta make this quick as duty calls.

The only major issue I have is how choppy and laggy the game gets when I am on a mid to large team. Please make the game performance issues your #1 priority and put all other NON GAME BREAKING issues on the back burner until this is fixed.

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You know, I kinda wonder what kind of setup alot of you guys are running. I mean, the graphics in this game, especially on the COV side are pretty high-end. So if your trying to run this on an old celeron 1.0 ghz processor, and cheap integrated graphics, then you should expect lag.

I currently have a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ with 2 gigs of ram and a 7600GT graphics card and I have never had that much problems with lag. Sure, if I go into Atlas when it's really crowded, or in a Hami raid or something, I notice lag. But I am repeatedly seeing posts with people griping about lag on midsize to fullsize teams.

All I have to say, is before you blame the devs, take a look at your specs. It's more than likely because you are running on older computer.

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Not uber but not weak.
I have little or no problems on Heroes in any zone but Atlas.
In villains I rubberband in most zones with constant low framerate and lag.
On 6-8 person teams on mission maps in Both CoH and CoV framerate sometimes is fine and others it gets so bad I can't reliably walk around a room much less be an effective combatant.

I don't really blame this on graphics performance issues only it seems to be much worse on a yellow load then a green one. The servers' abiities are also a question in my mind.
It's hard to tell which is the real culprit tho, afterall the server populations went up at the same time as the graphical upgrade. I personally blame the lag on the servers, not my PC.


 

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Will we be able to drop the "hunt 10 thorns in Perez" mission and the "go run talk to the Hollows guy/the PvP zone contact" missions?

Ie, is this for bugged missions only, or is a general QoL fix? I know that those missions in particular are really an enormous pain when I'm playing the early and mid-game hero side, and I'd much rather simply be rid of them.

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Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

If the "drop mission" code doesn't allow me to skip these missions and ditch outleveled arcs in their entirety, it's all but useless to me.

And, note that I'm not asking to get a single point of XP for missions I drop in this manner. All I want is to (1) never do an "introductory" mission for a zone I've already street-swept two dozen times with my alts, and (2) never have to spend hours clearing out ancient arcs for every contact that I've ever done a single mission for.

(You think I'm exaggerating about that last point? Schadenfraulein on Virtue had to clear nineteen outleveled arcs before any of her current contacts would offer her one. At least six of those were from contacts for whom she had done only one mission previously.)

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This is not true. You can have as many story arcs open at once as you want now. I have had 3 open at once. You haven't had to finish one arc to get another for quite some time.

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I don't know about that, a contact in Grandville recently refused to speak to me, then I cleaed an arc I had open and she was giving me missions again.


 

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Hey, Posi, anyone looking into the bug that prevents groupmates from entering your base?

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And the one that kicks you out while either in it, or editing it?


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Teleport reticle and Patron-granted Respecs are two I should have mentioned, but since our guys have already fixed those internally here, they fell off my list. Sorry.

As for players who think they will just be albe to drop every mission they get to PL off a contact... think again; we're crazy. Not that crazy.

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I love your response and sense of humor Posi


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No idea what the devs have planned, but I just thought of a funky idea: Mission credits.

You get 1 each time you complete a mission, and each time you skip a mission you use up one. So in effect you have to do at least half of the missions in the game as for each one you skip, you have to of build up some credit first.

maybe even give a limit to the number you can stockpile too.

Oh, and make any badge/temp power mission unskippable, as I'd never want to skip them, perhaps warn you, some people are weird


 

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* Ability to drop missions. Coming soon!(TM) I know this will make a lot of players happy that they don't need to contact Customer Service just to continue thier story arcs.

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Look what you guys have done... Now even our beloved Developers use the (TM) after 'Soon!'

Positron, oh Positron, don't cave to their taunts!


 

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Teleport reticle and Patron-granted Respecs are two I should have mentioned, but since our guys have already fixed those internally here, they fell off my list. Sorry.

As for players who think they will just be albe to drop every mission they get to PL off a contact... think again; we're crazy. Not that crazy.

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Have you considered making dropped missions cycle back into the list of missions as long as it is not a story arc mission? That way in the future someone may be able to go back and redo a broken mission...pending they don't outlevel it.


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Hey, Posi, anyone looking into the bug that prevents groupmates from entering your base?

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What about the bug that unpredictably boots you from your base after going there for rezzing? The ying/yang is that you reappear on the map where you were defeated or just outside the door of the mission instance you were in, but still it's unpleasant.


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* Debt in PvP Zones. Currently we "Pro-Rate" debt depending on how much damage you took from NPCs vs. PCs. When this is fixed we will zero out any debt if the killing blow comes from PCs, and Pro-Rate debt if the killing blow comes from NPCs.

* Salvage disappearing from storage objects. If you click too fast, some salvage may get lost in the transaction when pulling from a Storage Object. This is a high priority bug to fix.

* Back Alley Brawler gives debt in Recluse's Victory. Yeah, he was not set up as "debt free". Sorry.

* Ability to drop missions. Coming soon!(TM) I know this will make a lot of players happy that they don't need to contact Customer Service just to continue thier story arcs.

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Thanks for the update.
I was wondering why Brute fury generation being broken in PvP isnt considered to be a top issue.

Thanks.


 

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* Ability to drop missions. Coming soon!(TM) I know this will make a lot of players happy that they don't need to contact Customer Service just to continue thier story arcs

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...provided that it doesn't lead to a drop in your commitment to fixing bugs in individual missions.
Don't get me wrong. It will definitely be good to know a mission can be dropped if we can't complete it, but at the same time we do want to complete those missions too.
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At the same time, thank you for working on these issues and keeping us informed.

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What about the global compensation/chat bug?
What about our Patron respecs still being borked?
Lag?
FPS problem?
Memory Leak?

Thanks.

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I Thought the global bug was fixed already.... seems fine here


 

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and since i am in an asking mode... how about a hosp in hollows. god knows that that is the ONE place that needs it the most. travel is dangerous enough for lowbies...do we really have to make them run from atlas on every death?

there has to be a way to make hollows less annoying than it already is... unless there are more mish in atlas from levels 1-14 and up hollows entry to 14 at travel (or travel at 10)

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NO hospital in the hollows. Unless its REALLY close to the AP exit. Like...right next to it.

Whenever I ding in the hollows (before level 10) I almost always take the AP hospital express to see Ms. Liberty.

Of course, knowing posi's sense of humor...the hospital would be in a back corner of the hollows....

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My gut feel is that the Hollows won't get a hospital. Ever. Based on the current state of affairs, there isn't a hazard zone in the game that I'm aware of that has a hospital, and a "non-hazard" zone that doesn't have one. Admittedly, I've never had a toon make it way up to the end game, so that might break north of level 40.

However for all sub level 40 zones I think you'll find that to be the case. And since the Hollows is a hazard zone .....

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Dark Astoria, to name one, has a hospital.


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I have to agree with CuppaSyniq, I think y'all are seriously overcomplicating the mission drop thing.

My bet is it will simply remove the mission from your que. If it's from a contact you haven't outleveled they will offer it to you again next time you talk to them. The only thing it'll really let you do is retry a bugged mission, and make room in your que for new missions. That's pretty much it.

Edit - Just to clarify, by 'bugged' I don't necessarily mean a mission that is broken. Sometimes missions just won't complete for some reason. Usually resetting the mission works, but if that's not an option being able to drop it and reaquire it would be usefull.


 

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Posi, what about this situation:

Fought NPC and Players at a pillbox, managed to get away with a sliver of health, probably less than 50. . .very hard to tell which side was doing more damage. . .inspirations were used a couple of times. . .went back to base without dying. Healed to full. Came out of base and was two-shot by a Stalker. From zero debt to 40k. If my health was at full, why'd I get debt from the very first death immediately following?

Is there a time-issue we also need to worry about?

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I asked about that in a petition over a month ago when the same thing happened to me. It got escalated until I got this reply, about 3 weeks later:

"Hi Denny,

Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, the PlayNC Support Team does not have these detailed available from Cryptic. For your answer, please refer to the City of Heroes forums at http://boards.cityofheroes.com ."

All I wanted to know was how LONG I had to wait after healing when fighting NPCs before this NPC damage would go away. And they couldn't answer. I assume you have to log out and back on before you can actually fight players now. And of course the forums don't have this info.

Yay dwindiling customer support!


 

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* Debt in PvP Zones. Currently we "Pro-Rate" debt depending on how much damage you took from NPCs vs. PCs. When this is fixed we will zero out any debt if the killing blow comes from PCs, and Pro-Rate debt if the killing blow comes from NPCs.

* Salvage disappearing from storage objects. If you click too fast, some salvage may get lost in the transaction when pulling from a Storage Object. This is a high priority bug to fix.

* Back Alley Brawler gives debt in Recluse's Victory. Yeah, he was not set up as "debt free". Sorry.

* Ability to drop missions. Coming soon!(TM) I know this will make a lot of players happy that they don't need to contact Customer Service just to continue thier story arcs.

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All well and good but hey, there's still a sound bug of sorts (esp on test right now). FPS for CoV is in the dumper despite what kind of system you run for many folks. There's a slew of issues that got slated as QOL issues that really need to be brought to the forefront and repaired. How about some fixes to some of the issues that linger from i2 or i3, etc.

How about a comment on why almost every patch breaks as many things as it fixes and how your QOL implimentation team will be resolving that with the Devs?

Sorry to be crass, but come on with all the bugs man. If it's not game breaking or fresh on the plate it doesn't get fixed. That's the "normal" lifecycle of MORPG's but then again, no others have interactive developers like this game has. Maybe CoX could be one of the 1st to break the mold.


 

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What about the global compensation/chat bug?
What about our Patron respecs still being borked?
Lag?
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Memory Leak?

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I Thought the global bug was fixed already.... seems fine here

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I am still missing my "inactive" friends, and there has been no answer as to when anybody missing off anyone's list is fixed. Also if the inactive friends come back their globals are still being changed (which is part of the bug) AND Cricket mentioned that when this was fixed we would be getting global compensation - which we have not seen yet (no the double xp weekend was NOT global compensation that was "thanks for putting up with all our nifty other bugs compensation"). So I am still anxiously awaiting the compensation and the completion of the work on the global bug.


Thanks, NC Soft, for closing my favorite game ever without warning and with plenty of life still left in it, and thus relieving me of the burden of EVER wanting to buy, try or even hear about another game from your company. Will my decision make a dent, or persuade them in anyway, shape or form? Nope, obviously not. Don't care. NC Soft is dead to me. ~ PsyFox

 

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Finally we get to drop missions?

NEVER gonna do the "defeat X vahzilok in faultline" mission again.
I haven't done it in over a year already, I just go to a different contact when it's the only choice offered. Once upon a time, I had four out of five contacts offering ONLY that mission...so I went and did the Synapse TF twice to out-level those contacts.

Dropping it would be much preferable.

Also, along the same lines....anybody else suffering from a lack of contacts at level 27? My WS has only ONE regular contact available at this level. I can get new missions in Croatoa, Striga, and from the WS contact (forget her name) in GC... plus whoever my ONE regular contact is (can't remember her name right now either), but all my other contacts are outleveled and won't introduce me to anyone new....

Ah well, if there's an easy fix, could someone PM it to me? Thanks.