Not once, not twice, but three times...
By
008Zulu,
Posted on: 2006-01-10 16:26 in Developers' Corner
//happy dance
Oh, joy! To be able to play my blaster again without fear of running into an AV mission that I couldn't get a group for!
And COSTUMES! Yay! COSTUMES!
States, do you happen to know of Poshyb likes beer? If so, can I send him a sixer of his favorite?
readings overrated <.< *RUNS*
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First...I confirm that we're working on right now (as in pohsyb in the next room) to add CoV costume parts into CoH if you own both games....
Then we repeal the hated stealth nerf. The reason why: many well reasoned posts. It's that simple. You guys pointed out the problems.
AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.
In order to incentivize larger teams, Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!
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Must say, "Good job old chap!"
One of the nicest Tuesdays I've read in some time.
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AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss.
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This is the best change ever in CoH.
It's like X-mas. Part 2!! 
Nice changes...cudos all...the Mu'Drakhan arc was very frustrating with 4 AV/Heros almost right after each other(Infernal,Lilitu,Aurora, and Baphomet) 
*checks calendar*
Funny, my calendar says Christmas is December 25th, not January 10th.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for this entire post, States. The AV thing in particular makes me glad, since I solo (or duo) so much, and I'm really glad to see that you've listened to those of us who didn't like the stealth nerf.
Now.... can I have my IH toggle back?
No?
Hmmm... How 'bout that Phase Shift timer? Any room to work there?
No?
Ok, then.
(In all seriousness, thank you for this stuff. It's definitely a step in the right direction to make lots of people feel better about the game and the developers.)
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So, will the AV spawn as an Elite boss? ie a weaker version of what we used to face? Or will it be another villain in the group?
For instance, while solo on hero, will I be facing Nightstar, Elite Boss Version or a Praetorian Elite Boss?
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I'm sure it's NightStar, Elite Boss Version. After all, when doing a Freakshow mission with a boss on heroic (or villainous), it's still a tank, but at the rank of lieutenant.
I'm a very happy Donny.
My arcs are constantly shifting, just search for GadgetDon for the latest.
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One thing I always wanted to see in an AV mission are two AV's in the same room not fighting each other but working together to fight your team. I think the added difficulty would be very nice to help spice up some AV battles. Most of the time they are over really fast with the right team on your side.
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You can arrange that in SOME of the 40-50 AV missions. Requires some work because
they don't start in the same area, but doable.
I think a fairer way might be to do a TF/SF where at the end, you fight one elite
boss for every two players or fraction thereof. Maybe play with those numbers if
that seems too easy (aoe debuffs and aoe damage can do that).
Possibly toss in the AV-level mez protection. Two holds is too easy to get on an
elite boss I think. (5-slotted single target hold: 1 acc/3 duration/1 recharge, or
2 recharge if you like...)
Might be amusing to have an early (L40) Praetorian mission with 4 of the sidekicks
in the same final room, but as elite bosses.
Good work, seriously. This is something I can seriously say I am happy about. Thanks a lot for listening to us.
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First...I confirm that we're working on right now (as in pohsyb in the next room) to add CoV costume parts into CoH if you own both games....
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Now if you guys could just stop penny pinching and give the options to everybody like you know you should, everything will be fine. Especially since most of those options are neutral or even 'good' (ie lab coats, military vests, supernatural faces, star shot pattern, feather cape, etc.).
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AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.
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Could you (or the appropriate people) reevaluate the missions that have been given timers to (as far as we know) prevent farming those missions for powerleveling?
The aggro cap makes herding difficult or impossible. The issue 5 + ED reductions to defenses makes attempting it very deadly anyway. People who have been using those missions to farm still have the untimed versions. Some of the timed missions are in story arcs (Shadowhunter and Requiem), which introduces urgency where it may not be absolutely necessary. I think it is necessary at times - the end to World Wide Red is a lot of fun, partly because it is such a time-sensitive thing. "They're attacking the war wall RIGHT NOW!" As opposed to Requiem, who's loitering with some warwolves on a relatively dead Earth.
Just so it's clear: I really like the changes to AVs/Heroes posted.
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This is really good news to hear on all three aspects. Indeed This is better than a snowball in June. It's better than Popiel's Pocket Fisherman. Better than Corn Nuts. Thanks.
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Thank you on all three notes. Looking forward to i7 whenever it comes out (translation: no rush, please!).
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This is really good news to hear on all three aspects. Indeed This is better than a snowball in June. It's better than Popiel's Pocket Fisherman. Better than Corn Nuts. Thanks.
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Now let's keep this in perspective.
I know Ron Popeil.
Evil Popeil is a character of mine.
And this, sir, is...
Ah heck, you're right, it is better than the pocket fisherman!
My arcs are constantly shifting, just search for GadgetDon for the latest.
The world beware! I've started a blog
GadgetMania Under Attack: The Digg Lockout
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First...I confirm that we're working on right now (as in pohsyb in the next room) to add CoV costume parts into CoH if you own both games....
Then we repeal the hated stealth nerf. The reason why: many well reasoned posts. It's that simple. You guys pointed out the problems.
AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.
In order to incentivize larger teams, Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!
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Ladies, gentlemen, robots, and space aliens...
This is the reason that I love this game. The devs listen to the community and when it's important, they'll change things. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. All three of these changes are very welcome. You like us, you really like us!
/e applauds
Really nice to add, thank you all. From the bottom of my heart. I really disliked the 60 some AVs at the upper levels of the game. You've just made this gamer really pleased.
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AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.
In order to incentivize larger teams, Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, a thousand times over.
I love this. After all this neysaying and putting down of the developers for what they've been doing (or lack there of). Then they turn around with this, and just throw it in all those Dooooomers faces. HA!
Good job! I, for one, never lost any faith in your abilities.
Wow thanks, great news. I was beginning to think you guys had gone off the deep end.
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hrm.. will the mission text (or is it already?) specific about it being a hero class enemy or av class enmy? like it doesnt just mention their name (I wont know its an AV class) it will SAY there will be or not be one or something?
I enjoy fighting them and DONT want to miss any- so this means I will need to know when I get the mission that I must crank up my difficulty to max to get them to spawn as I dont always have a team? or they will spawn anyways as elite bosses?
I just dont want to accidentally miss an AV by zipping through a mission that was going to have one, had I known and gotten a giant team together or cranked up the slider- know what I mean? I've been playing awhile but not so obsessively that I actually know many AV/hero names at all, I missed almost all of them back when I played CoH (cant play that anymore since I remember how my hero *was*- no offense) and now it sounds like they will be even easier to miss during my current run through cov (I'm 28 and have seen I think, one? Half done and I've fought one, single hero, ever?)
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I'd like to second that (although I'm playing CoH, not CoV)... I don't really want to miss out on the chance to fight AVs. And I'd much prefer an Elite Boss version instead of a different character replacement for when I'm soloing (which happens a lot).
Just my thoughts.
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Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!
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What kind of rewards?
Jane Little Inv/Axe Lvl 50
Jane White Dark/Regen Lvl 50
Jane Dark BoardSword/Inv Lvl 50
Dig For Fire Fire/Axe Lvl 50
Jane Gravel Fire Melee/Stone Lvl 50
Awesome change.
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I must crank up my difficulty to max to get them to spawn as I dont always have a team? or they will spawn anyways as elite bosses?
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It helps to read.
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