Not once, not twice, but three times...

Geratron · 01-10-2006 04:42 PM

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First...I confirm that we're working on right now (as in pohsyb in the next room) to add CoV costume parts into CoH if you own both games....

Then we repeal the hated stealth nerf. The reason why: many well reasoned posts. It's that simple. You guys pointed out the problems.

AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.

In order to incentivize larger teams, Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!

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_Yil_ · 01-10-2006 04:43 PM

Thanks.

Now how about some content?

LiquidX · 01-10-2006 04:45 PM

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Now how about some content?

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Lets ask the Magic St8sball!

*Shakes it*

"All signs point to "Soon"."

SteelGolem · 01-10-2006 04:45 PM

I think a bit of my waning faith in the devs has been restored. And I think I'll give you guys credit and assume the bug fixes we've been asking for are only so long in coming because the problems are complex, not because you're ignoring us.

Keep up the good work, and keep listening to us.

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Under the bludgeonings of chance; My head is bloodied but unbowed

I am a tank.

AlienOverlord · 01-10-2006 04:45 PM

See now THIS is why I'm so glad I quit WoW and began playing this game again.

Spandex forever.

Ghimel · 01-10-2006 04:47 PM

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First...I confirm that we're working on right now (as in pohsyb in the next room) to add CoV costume parts into CoH if you own both games....

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"pohsyb" Hmmm.... so, uh, pohsyb, aye? I give up. I don't know what that means.

Dysmal · 01-10-2006 04:48 PM

Nice change. Since I've been [censored] about use of development time with regards to the stealth change, this AV change is what I call a great use of development time.

And a question for Positron. Whats a World Spawn?

Heroes
Dysmal
Lumynous
Sam Steele
Pluck
Wile
Slagheap
Pressure Wave
Rhiannon Bel
Verified
Stellaric
Syd Mallorn

Villains
Jotunheim Skald
Saer Maen
Jen Corbae
Illuminance
Venator Arawn
Taiga Dryad
Tarranos

Chizakice · 01-10-2006 04:48 PM

I love you. In a non sexual way of course, but I still love you.

Thank you.

Dawnslayer · 01-10-2006 04:49 PM

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"pohsyb" Hmmm.... so, uh, pohsyb, aye? I give up. I don't know what that means.

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pohsyb is a dev.

Dawnslayer on Virtue.

LiquidX · 01-10-2006 04:49 PM

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Nice change. Since I've been [censored] about use of development time with regards to the stealth change, this AV change is what I call a great use of development time.

And a question for Positron. Whats a World Spawn?

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I'm thinking its stuff spawned out in the "World" or Zones. Like Babbage in Steel Canyon and the like. (They may be planning on adding AV's into some areas)

Primal · 01-10-2006 04:50 PM

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First...I confirm that we're working on right now (as in pohsyb in the next room) to add CoV costume parts into CoH if you own both games....

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"pohsyb" Hmmm.... so, uh, pohsyb, aye? I give up. I don't know what that means.

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Heh, pohsyb is another dev, though I forget exactly what s/he does. Yeah, I know, the new slang flies fast and furious around here, but that isn't one of those times.

Positron · 01-10-2006 04:50 PM

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Nice change. Since I've been [censored] about use of development time with regards to the stealth change, this AV change is what I call a great use of development time.

And a question for Positron. Whats a World Spawn?

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A World Spawn is a spawn that takes place in the game-world, not in an instanced mission.

The Hamidon Mitochondria are an example of an Arch-villain World Spawn, and thus will not be reduced in any way by this change.

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Imbalmer · 01-10-2006 04:50 PM

One thing I always wanted to see in an AV mission are two AV's in the same room not fighting each other but working together to fight your team. I think the added difficulty would be very nice to help spice up some AV battles. Most of the time they are over really fast with the right team on your side.

The_Choice · 01-10-2006 04:51 PM

The AV change has made me happy in more ways than I can express.

Lycantropus · 01-10-2006 04:51 PM

Okay.. now I'm wondering if I'm dreaming...

This is a freaky twilight zone thing...

In either case... I LOVE IT!!!!

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!!!!!!

Keep this up and you, Jack, will be my personal hero.

(not that I'd have a poster of you wearing the T-shirt and towel from the CoV party on my wall or something... that would be just kinda creepy... but you get the idea )

"I play characters. I have to have a very strong visual appearance, backstory, name, etc. to get involved with a character, otherwise I simply won't play it very long. I'm not an RPer by any stretch of the imagination, but character concept is very important for me."- Back Alley Brawler
I couldn't agree more.

Dawnslayer · 01-10-2006 04:52 PM

The 40-50 levels for heroes suddenly looks extremely attractive.

Dawnslayer on Virtue.

StarkRavingMad2 · 01-10-2006 04:53 PM

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If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.

In order to incentivize larger teams, Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!

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You are such a pardox. I'm floored.

Apology accepted.

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Lycantropus · 01-10-2006 04:55 PM

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How will this change effect gettting AV Badges? Will you still need to defeat the AV or will the Elite Boss give you the badge too?

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Good question

"I play characters. I have to have a very strong visual appearance, backstory, name, etc. to get involved with a character, otherwise I simply won't play it very long. I'm not an RPer by any stretch of the imagination, but character concept is very important for me."- Back Alley Brawler
I couldn't agree more.

Dawnslayer · 01-10-2006 04:56 PM

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How will this change effect gettting AV Badges? Will you still need to defeat the AV or will the Elite Boss give you the badge too?

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I'd imagine you'll still get the badge - the person themselves are flagged for badge credit, not their 'status.'

Dawnslayer on Virtue.

deadcat · 01-10-2006 04:57 PM

Just to thread jack this a bit while we are taking about AV/HEROs can you look at the way the AI works for archvillians and heroes because everytime ive fought one recently they just run.

i mean the run the hell through entire maps. I mean i was scared as hell to fight infernal with 2 masterminds. since i figured hed just pull that axe out and kill us in a hit or two, and blow through our minions, but we put darkest night on him, and he RAN AWAY. just ran down the hall. occasionally using flares and fireball.

Backstreet brawler was like this too. he ran through the entire outside instanced mission using his AOE hurl on us.

Johnny sonata's soul tried to fly and run away but the super small map kept him in it.

there is really something wrong about AVs/HEROs and their ranged attacks or putting toggle powers on them. since they seem to favor running away and using them.

please please please look at it

Rachael_Storm · 01-10-2006 04:57 PM

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Then we repeal the hated stealth nerf. The reason why: many well reasoned posts. It's that simple. You guys pointed out the problems.

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Thank you. I honestly didn't think you'd listen to us. However, you did. Thank you. I am not as disillusioned as I was before the nerf was even announced (and I was getting there).

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AND now...we're changing the way Archvillains spawn. A ton of forum goers disliked adding so many AV's into missions a while back...so we've come up with a solution. If the team size and mission difficulty are ABOVE a certain level, an Archvillain spawns. Below that, players will face only an Elite Boss. If the mission is set on the first two levels of difficulty, it takes 4 heroes or more to spawn an Arch Villain. On the third level, 3 heroes or more. On the fourth level, 2 heroes. On the highest (Invincible), a solo hero will spawn an AV. Note this works in BOTH City of Heroes and Villains.

In order to incentivize larger teams, Positron is going to add a bonus to AV rewards!

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Now, not ONLY am I NOT disillusioned, I am happy.

/em HAPPY DANCE
THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!

You have just proven to me that you actually *do* care (I was really starting to wonder if you'd still cared). That is an extremely cool change. The AVs are what made me HATE ED. I now don't have anywhere NEAR the problems I had with ED and I5 defense reduction.

Ugh...I'll finally be able to solo when no one else is on
(I play 5 am to 8 am Central Time)

Covnam · 01-10-2006 04:57 PM

So, will the AV spawn as an Elite boss? ie a weaker version of what we used to face? Or will it be another villain in the group?

For instance, while solo on hero, will I be facing Nightstar, Elite Boss Version or a Praetorian Elite Boss?

Pep_Cat · 01-10-2006 04:57 PM

Wow, I can actually do Tina McIntyre's first mission right off the bat! Not to mention the Praetorian War arc. And the Terra Conspiracy, Envoy of Shadows, and pretty much all of Maria Jenkins stuff. =^_^=

And for villains... well, that's a lot of Heroes and AVs that I won't worry so much about.

Um... any chance this change can be implemented before I7 comes out? This is such a good idea, I'd hate to have to wait until March (or whenever I7 comes) to see it in play. =O_O= <-- pleading kitty eyes

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moore · 01-10-2006 05:00 PM

hrm.. will the mission text (or is it already?) specific about it being a hero class enemy or av class enmy? like it doesnt just mention their name (I wont know its an AV class) it will SAY there will be or not be one or something?

I enjoy fighting them and DONT want to miss any- so this means I will need to know when I get the mission that I must crank up my difficulty to max to get them to spawn as I dont always have a team? or they will spawn anyways as elite bosses?

I just dont want to accidentally miss an AV by zipping through a mission that was going to have one, had I known and gotten a giant team together or cranked up the slider- know what I mean? I've been playing awhile but not so obsessively that I actually know many AV/hero names at all, I missed almost all of them back when I played CoH (cant play that anymore since I remember how my hero *was*- no offense) and now it sounds like they will be even easier to miss during my current run through cov (I'm 28 and have seen I think, one? Half done and I've fought one, single hero, ever?)

Sockem · 01-10-2006 05:00 PM

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How will this change effect gettting AV Badges? Will you still need to defeat the AV or will the Elite Boss give you the badge too?

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Good question

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Same

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