How come we have no red servers yet???
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Accualt,
Posted on: 2005-11-01 20:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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States,
have you any insight (that you can share) on How NCsoft will be reporting Coh/CoV numbers. Logic as it is single billing would suggests a single combined number, but it would be nice to have my curiosity confirmed.
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That's how I'd suspect it, given how the software treats CoV as an "upgrade". If you install it as a separate game (for more user accounts) you'd get billed twice, so that would count as "two subscriptions."
I'm more curious about the Korean release. Saw the website. Looks like PvP is being encouraged for the asian release (good idea, given their preference toward it.) Revenue models differ in Korea, so comparing subscriptions can be misleading. If NCSoft lists the numbers as they do for Lineage & Lineage II, we'd expect a MASSIVE increase in numbers.
I'm hoping for more informative numbers (maybe divided between north america, europe, and asia servers). but we'll see.
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That's how I'd suspect it
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I as well, but you just know there will be some people who will refuse to believe it if it doesn't support their argument that ED killed CoH, eh?
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The servers aren't yellow because they had their capacity increased before CoV was added to the existing servers, unlike companies like SOE they don't like to see the servers buckle under the pressure of players before they decide to fork out the cash to upgrade them.
If there was actually a number counter for the active population you'd find that the number of players has actually risen quite sharply.
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Ding! We've got a winner!
We substantively increased the number of CPU's in our servers to account for new players....We've hit new highs in active concurrent in the past 24 hours.
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You guys certainly are wise to brace yourselves before rather than add after. I've noticed the Zone lag on Virtue, as a villain, to be very tolorable. Say, any idea if/when new servers will be added?
CatMan - some form on every server
Always here, there, and there again.
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...refuse to believe it if it doesn't support their argument that ED killed CoH, eh?
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You DARE stand there and say such things, thou pompous blowhard! HOW DARE YOU! 95% of the people left after I5, we all know this FOR A FACT, (and I dare you to contradict me, yon evil walrus-man), and of those poor sods remaining ALL OF THEM have left this rotten game for good thanks to the ED issue.
We're sick and tired of you mamby-pamby rationalisticis running around demanding proof and using logic to solve your problems. Well guess what, big boy, the world doesn't run on logic, it runs on ME! AND I DEMAND SOMETHING BE DONE!
If Statesman can't open his mouth without lies and fetid baby corpses falling from his putrid gums then perhaps he should just keep it shut. We're tired of hearing his lies - 'cause that's all he ever says. Lies. And baby corpses... 'cause he eats them.
YOU ARE ALL LIARS! I can proove it simply by pulling up your last posts and showing the world, once and for all, that you are lying scum and in desperate need of having a lobotomy ASAP. You and your words... which are lies! Lies is all you know... all you know? Yes, all you know - if you said a single thing that was true you'd probably have a heart attack, you miserable liar!
It's people like you and Statesman that are responsible for death, herpies, and taxes... you know that don't you? Oh, and also those really annoying hard-to-open DVD wrappers. You evil cretins!
I HOPE YOU ... fall down and scrape your knees or something. I'LL GNAW YOUR FEET TO NUBS!
That'll show ya.
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If Statesman can't open his mouth without lies and fetid baby corpses falling from his putrid gums then perhaps he should just keep it shut. We're tired of hearing his lies - 'cause that's all he ever says. Lies. And baby corpses... 'cause he eats them.
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Why can't the people who really believe this stuff be so hilarious?
I wish you guys had done this a month or two ago 
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If thats true States, then how come so many servers are a ghost town when traveling through the zones?
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*shakes his head*
Why in the world would someone consider their own very limited experance to be more valid then a statement by someone with access to the server logs???
I mean... What the??? States who most likely is getting emails daily at least with connection numbers says that there are more people connecting right now then ever before... Yet someone thinks because they don't see a lot of people States is either lying or doesn't know what he's talking about.
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I mean... What the??? States who most likely is getting emails daily at least with connection numbers says that there are more people connecting right now then ever before... Yet someone thinks because they don't see a lot of people States is either lying or doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Yet another reason why I love these damn forums.
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If Statesman can't open his mouth without lies and fetid baby corpses falling from his putrid gums then perhaps he should just keep it shut. We're tired of hearing his lies - 'cause that's all he ever says. Lies. And baby corpses... 'cause he eats them.
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Why can't the people who really believe this stuff be so hilarious?
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Yeah, if they could be I might read their rants.
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The servers aren't yellow because they had their capacity increased before CoV was added to the existing servers, unlike companies like SOE they don't like to see the servers buckle under the pressure of players before they decide to fork out the cash to upgrade them.
If there was actually a number counter for the active population you'd find that the number of players has actually risen quite sharply.
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Ding! We've got a winner!
We substantively increased the number of CPU's in our servers to account for new players....We've hit new highs in active concurrent in the past 24 hours.
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To bad when you use the search window to look at the number of players on the server though, the number seems to have gone stayed about the same; or gone down a bit after the CoV release.
Usually, one sees an big influx of players when an expansion hits. Not so for CoV it seems.
before CoV; Guardian hovered between 1400+ to 1000+ from 8:00 - 10:00 PM. Right after the Enhancement Diversifiction release; that number DROPPED to 900 - 600 for the same time frame. Now, right after CoV; it's back up to the first levels, but I'll be curious what the player levels are at after the first 30 days are up.
But, overall, I guess congratulations are in order because it looks like you just swapped on set of players for another, and at least for now maintained whatever you current subscriber rate is.
Funny thing tough: I always thought the point of a new Expansion was to INCREASE your subscriber base numbers dramatically. Guess not in Cryptic and NCSoft's case, eh?
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not laggy but just need to be populated so I can team. I hate soloing with a passion.
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COV in certain zone is running around 800MB of ram not only will that crash most PC's (512MB) but it also makes those that can lag very badly and run out of memory. There are lots of people who just can't log on, good thing my pc has 2 GB worth of RAM.
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The servers aren't yellow because they had their capacity increased before CoV was added to the existing servers, unlike companies like SOE they don't like to see the servers buckle under the pressure of players before they decide to fork out the cash to upgrade them.
If there was actually a number counter for the active population you'd find that the number of players has actually risen quite sharply.
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Ding! We've got a winner!
We substantively increased the number of CPU's in our servers to account for new players....We've hit new highs in active concurrent in the past 24 hours.
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In Layman's terms - they got a Hemi under the hood baby! 
Rook
Virtue, Freedom and Victory are yellow almost every night.
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...refuse to believe it if it doesn't support their argument that ED killed CoH, eh?
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You DARE stand there and say such things, thou pompous blowhard! HOW DARE YOU! 95% of the people left after I5, we all know this FOR A FACT, (and I dare you to contradict me, yon evil walrus-man), and of those poor sods remaining ALL OF THEM have left this rotten game for good thanks to the ED issue.
We're sick and tired of you mamby-pamby rationalisticis running around demanding proof and using logic to solve your problems. Well guess what, big boy, the world doesn't run on logic, it runs on ME! AND I DEMAND SOMETHING BE DONE!
If Statesman can't open his mouth without lies and fetid baby corpses falling from his putrid gums then perhaps he should just keep it shut. We're tired of hearing his lies - 'cause that's all he ever says. Lies. And baby corpses... 'cause he eats them.
YOU ARE ALL LIARS! I can proove it simply by pulling up your last posts and showing the world, once and for all, that you are lying scum and in desperate need of having a lobotomy ASAP. You and your words... which are lies! Lies is all you know... all you know? Yes, all you know - if you said a single thing that was true you'd probably have a heart attack, you miserable liar!
It's people like you and Statesman that are responsible for death, herpies, and taxes... you know that don't you? Oh, and also those really annoying hard-to-open DVD wrappers. You evil cretins!
I HOPE YOU ... fall down and scrape your knees or something. I'LL GNAW YOUR FEET TO NUBS!
That'll show ya.
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You left out references to 'Fanbois'. Overall, I rate that a 9 on the rant scale.
My memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
I don't think I could use a word like fanboi and then make it plural. Somehow that crosses a line I swore to me dear old granny, (who enforced rules of grammar with a cattle prod), I'd never go near.
Heck, just using the word 'fanboi' makes me want to stick my hand in the socket for a bit. Poor old Granny.
I usually hate to use this acronym, but...
LoL.
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If Statesman can't open his mouth without lies and fetid baby corpses falling from his putrid gums then perhaps he should just keep it shut. We're tired of hearing his lies - 'cause that's all he ever says. Lies. And baby corpses... 'cause he eats them.
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Why can't the people who really believe this stuff be so hilarious?
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You know, the sad thing is ...... they are 
. Or maybe I'm just easily amused.
I rarely see yellow servers even before the upgrades and I play anywhere from 9-5pm ET and 9pm-2am ET
CoV launch day saw a couple yellow servers, Virtue and one other.
But I think it's more CoH is a ghost town than the servers.
CoV isn't a bussleing metropolis but its pretty active. CoH's community is probably either in PvP zones (as evidenced by the ten heroes casually standing in the middle of the villain base for a couple hours nailing everyone) or in CoV.
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To bad when you use the search window to look at the number of players on the server though, the number seems to have gone stayed about the same; or gone down a bit after the CoV release.
Usually, one sees an big influx of players when an expansion hits. Not so for CoV it seems.
before CoV; Guardian hovered between 1400+ to 1000+ from 8:00 - 10:00 PM. Right after the Enhancement Diversifiction release; that number DROPPED to 900 - 600 for the same time frame. Now, right after CoV; it's back up to the first levels, but I'll be curious what the player levels are at after the first 30 days are up.
But, overall, I guess congratulations are in order because it looks like you just swapped on set of players for another, and at least for now maintained whatever you current subscriber rate is.
Funny thing tough: I always thought the point of a new Expansion was to INCREASE your subscriber base numbers dramatically. Guess not in Cryptic and NCSoft's case, eh?
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Wow, it's fun to leave out facts when you are trying to be an [censored], huh?
Well, what about the fact that, even if you had issue 6 predownloaded, you still had to download a new patch that took at least 3 hours to download and longer to patch? Surely the fact that some people had problems loading into CoH thanks to that patch and corrupted Pigg files don't count in your little battlecry of stupid here.
So Guardian hovered between your VERY scientific numbers "before CoV" hit. When before? Was it a weekend? Did you compare one Thursday night with another? And you say it went up when CoV hit? A few days later when people who were having trouble downloading the rest of issue 6 finally got through?
You don't say.
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CoV seems to be awfully buggy and laggy right now. There was a lot of speculation in CoV beta whether it was ready for launch. I suppose they didn't quite get the stability and login issues worked out yet.
Apparently numerous bugs with contacts still exist too. A new one has cropped up, requiring us to log out after doing a newspaper mission in order to get into the next mission.
I'm getting tired of constantly jerking as I'm running around, just after two days of playing. Perhaps people are waiting for issues to be patched up a bit.
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The newspaper bug and one spot that was hard to get out of (sort of a pit you can fall into you can't get out of) are the only bugs I've seen; but I can open up my mission list and hit 'select task' for the next newspaper mission and THEN go in, I don't have to log.
I have experienced absolutely no lag whatsoever playing all through the headstart and a bit since, despite having horrendous lag almost every time I played in beta.
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I have also done the global searches, and it shows always less than 2000 players now on Justice...often closer to 1300, where before I6 and CoV it used to show more like 2500-3000 at peak... I am finding it more and more difficult to find groups these last several days, and it is discouraging.
In case noone noticed, the global search DOES show villains in its count as well.
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The global search only shows villains in PVP zones. I've not managed to located any villains in the CoV PVE Zones.
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Thats because we can't. I try to search for my friends that are villains in the PVE zones and you can't it them ever. However I can search in the PvP zones and find them every time.
So to summarize:
1) when people in CoH do global searches, they only get villains in pvp zones and that's a small eprcentage of villains.
2) the world has grown so people are more spread out
3) lots of CoH people are playing CoV right now
4) 2 or 3 servers are double yellow every night at prime time
5) it's still annoying under the Atlas statue, no matter what anyone wants to say otherwise
6) there are usually 3 instances of Mercy Island right now
7) global searches don't show up people who are on hide. I think that could be a sizable percentage in this game because of drive-by invites
8) anyhow: NCsoft is one of the few companies that has ever released actual numbers of subscribers -- though I don't know if they are still doing this.
9) I think some people just want so much to be right in their disagreement with development of this game, that they hope the game will fail and prove them right.
10) maybe that's too cynical.
11) why am I numbering things?
[b]Virtue[/b]
Lady Mantis, Dark/empathy defender
Woman in Purdah, DM/regen scrapper
Gravity Monkey, Grav/kin controller
Stone Woman, Stone/stone tanker
Freyja Incarnate, Fire/invuln. tanker
Head Shrinker, Ill/FF controller
Blowup Doll, AR/dev blaster
Geek of Darkness, Dark/dark defender
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If there was actually a number counter for the active population you'd find that the number of players has actually risen quite sharply.
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Just look at how many instanced zones are in CoV when you play to really see that the game population has increased significantly.
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
The population has increased significantly...but to think to see red servers is ignoring a fact..you have to pay 14.99 a month to play the game.
I still see a bunch of players around but servers won't be flooded on day one. To new people many wait to see how the game is from sources before getting into the contract. Of course many who have played it, known it's good, but the hard part is getting new buyers. Even with the free month, someone has to know they're going to play the game for a while before investing time and money into it.
Not to mention, I don't know about anyone else, but this week was crazy for me, couldn't play Sunday or Monday because of tests..I'm sure players were spread out on playing times like this too.
So if you don't see yellow or red servers, it doesn't mean anything but the number of players logged on at that time...factors like other things to do, etc affect this.
Also, I know that some people are getting it late. A friend of mine preordered, and a frew friends of his, but the store is not getting it in until today..atleast he hopes. They're pretty late huh? So fret not, this game ownz, and there is nothing better..in terms of quality, service, variety, and fun.
I hate playing during weeks, because it means I have to get off..
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I have also done the global searches, and it shows always less than 2000 players now on Justice...often closer to 1300, where before I6 and CoV it used to show more like 2500-3000 at peak... I am finding it more and more difficult to find groups these last several days, and it is discouraging.
In case noone noticed, the global search DOES show villains in its count as well.
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The global search only shows villains in PVP zones. I've not managed to located any villains in the CoV PVE Zones.