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Shift-# is used very, very frequently by anyone who needs to heal or buff teammates, or even just to use recall friend. Please leave that one alone.
As for ctrl-#... I don't use it all that much, and most of the time when I use it it is by accident and I have to figure out why my tray got switched. I would not mind seeing that combination being used for a third tray.
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I concur. 
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Happy third tray. My CoH experience will be complete. Until they bump the level cap up to 60. Or 70. Or 100. Whoohoo!
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To respond to the many comments:
We will not change the binds for shift+number to select a teammate. It's obvious many rely on it. It is generally thought that the addition of the numbers to the team window is a good thing.
Most of you seem OK with the proposed changes to lctrl+number. There are some who use it, however, who would hate to have to rebind those keys. You should not have to do that; the plan is to create a new keybind profile. As of today, there has only been one keybind profile: Default. The idea is to add a new one named Classic or Original. To get the keys back the way you are used to, all you would need to go to the Controls page of Options and select the profile you want from the pulldown on the right side. This is sticky for each hero. Although not optimal for you, perhaps, is it acceptable?
Obviously, we could put these changes into a new profile and make people change it if they wanted the new binds. However, we think that these binds are better overall for people and would like them to be default.
Someone asked for a key which pops up the tray and leaves it up. That is bound to the right alt key. (I can't remember the slash command offhand... /alttraysticky?)
The suggestion for /goto_tray which works for the other trays has been put on the short-list. That should have been there all along and has been an oversight.
I will put the other feature requests (such as more than 3 trays) on the request list.
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If you changet the default keybind profile, is it possible to have characters already made NOt auto switch to the new profile? If we need to switch our entire profile, then woudln't we lose all the custom binds we already have set up? I personally have different powers, commands, and phrases bound all over my keyboard.
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/vote yes on /power_lock
Not that I'm ever so uncoordinated I switch my powers rather than activating them *shifty eyes*.... no siree... 
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My nephew had this exact same problem. Some sort of "lock" would have helped him a lot.
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I think it's a great idea.
I have bound the shift and lctrl keys to specific powers on a few characters but I would be willing to either give that up or keep that binding and give up the quick access to the third tray. So far I don't anticipate needing instant access to more than about 20 powers anyway
I fully support the project of providing a third tray. May your efforts bear fruit.
<ul type="square">[*]You stated that there was a brief in-house survey. Was this just asking your co-workers what they used? or was it a server-side query on keyboard key usage matching a regular expression?[*]In my experience, Asking your co-workers is the least accurate & most mistake prone approach. Many folks forget that what keys they use under particular instance & some don't respond honestly due to peer pressure. [*]Also, there is the matter of play style. many folks that work in close proximity of one another tend to develop similar ways of interacting with a piece of software. As ways of doing things to get a desired result out of a commonly used piece of software are shared, many people do not investigate alternatives to those methods, because the one they were shown, works for that desired result.[*]If you preformed a server-side query, are you sure the criteria given was sufficiently accurate to eliminate the amount of false positives, sufficiently vague enough to eliminate any misses (one off's or data that should have generated a hit but didn't). A survey done in this fashion would avoid the the lapses in memory or human factor in a survey done via word of mouth or a show of hands.[*]You stated that the current system does not support multiple shift keys. Is it possible to upgrade/replace/augment the current system to support this wanted feature ? This functionality could help future changes become less intensive and/or require less changes to the current setup. The current proposal to change the default keybind to utilize the 'control' key does specify that the left 'control' is to be used. Does this imply that changes to the current system to support multiple shift keys is underway? Is this 3rd tray project dependent upon the multiple modifier key project?[*]Will the new keyboard shortcuts you are suggesting, be accompanied by corresponding slash commands ?[*]Shadowrealm did have a good point regarding the feel of the Ctrl+number keyboard commands. Is there an alternitive to the 'control' key that is not already taken ?[/list]
Ctrl-# sounds good.
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What do you think about this change to the default binds?
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In a future issue/patch to be named later, you will be able to open the to show three rows of powers. This has been oft-requested by the people who use tray macros as well as shape-shifting folks.
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Nice!
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Today, the number-keys execute powers in the main tray. Left alt+number executes powers in the second tray. We'd like to provide the same kind of thing for the third tray.
Regrettably, we have already bound the shift+number and ctrl+number keys to other things. A brief in-house survey showed that almost no one used these keystrokes. (Also, our system does not support multiple shift keys; we cannot bind lshift+lctrl+5, for example.)
In today's binds, the shift+number keys select your teammates. The ctrl+number keys makes the main tray hop to the given tray number. Of these two, we think the ctrl+number combination is less used and is less generally useful-- especially if we provide a third tray.
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I re-assigned the 2nd tray to the shift+number key rather than alt+number as I found hitting alt+number annoying. I actually use ctrl+number as the default, but usually it's just to get to the 3rd tray, so I suppose I wouldn't use it much at all if that is what the 3rd tray default becomes. Sounds good.
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So, we are considering a change to the default bindings to use left control for the third tray, if few of you are using these binds today. The lctrl+number keys would work on the third tray like the lalt+number keys work on the second tray. Making this change this will remove the tray-switching keystrokes (except for the = and - keys which will still rotate through the trays).
Of course, the slash commands for changing the tray will still exist. You will be able to bind them yourself. In addition, we will add a keybind profile which works just like it does now.
(Further, to promote use of the teammate keystrokes, we are planning on putting small numbers (like the ones in the tray) next to your teammates' icons in the team window.)
What do you think about this change to the default binds?
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Will these change the existing keybinds? If an existing hero has the default keybind setup when this goes test/live will his keybinds change to the new default, or will it only to the new default scheme for new heroes?
Also, will this go in (the keybinds) before the actual 3rd tray goes in, or only at the same time? I was just wondering b/c the number and alt+number go to the first and second tray that is shown rather than the actual row number, correct? So if the bind goes in before the actual displayed tray, how do you set which tray is the third? Or would it just go to the #3 row until the third tray is able to be displayed?
Or will the bind simply go in when you can display 3 trays?
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On a related note, could you make it possible to have the same power visible on multiple trays (if it isn't already possible).
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This is already possible. Click on the Powers tab (next to Inspirations tab). From there, you can drag any power to any tray as many times as you want.
Hmmmmm.... I think I like this ... I have already remapped several keys to select team mates etc, but I do have several macros that are used quite often that I keep in tray 3. Easy keyboard access to the 3rd tray sounds like great idea.
Definitely agree with binding ctrl-# to the third tray. The current ctrl-# has only been an annoyance when I accidentally hit it and mess up my power bars, until I manually click them back.
The shift-# is vital to empaths and others needing to quickly target teammates. Leave that alone please.
(Also, since we're adding a third tray, how about reconsidering adding a second auto-power?)
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(Further, to promote use of the teammate keystrokes, we are planning on putting small numbers (like the ones in the tray) next to your teammates' icons in the team window.)
What do you think about this change to the default binds?
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Wow! When I played an empath I never used shift+number because I just knew I'd mess up the selection and heal the wrong person. I never understood why there wasn't a number next to the team members name for that purpose, and now it looks like there will be. Cool.
I think empaths will find this much easier than mouse clicking on names, like I did. I'd like to mention something about the team list and repositioning it:
As an empath I'd undock the team window and move it to the right side of the screen so my mouse pretty much stayed on the right side (Mouse is right handed, cursor is always on the right of the screen) seemed to work well...except that the buff icons next to the team names don't default to the left side of the team window. So I could never move team window all the way to the right. When a tanker or scrapper has a ton of buffs on (or debuffs from mobs) they scroll off the screen.
Any chance that can be changed? Or if there's already a trick to swapping the icons to the other side can someone let me in on it?
CTRL is your best bet, but you really need to add support for dual chord keys for us bindjunkies.
Also, while you're monkyeing aroudn there, can I please see my enhancements and inspirations at the same time. Pretty please.
I've never used shift+number to select a teammate. I have used ctrl+number to change trays, but not very often, and giving us a third tray would probably elminate my need to do that anyway.
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Also, while you're monkyeing aroudn there, can I please see my enhancements and inspirations at the same time. Pretty please.
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I either undock my enhancements or Inspirations window, usually the enhancements window which I then put beneath the power trays.
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Heck, I've been playing since day 3 of live, and I didn't know about alt-number for Tray 2...
Third power tray visible! VERY for it. My 50 kinetic has two macro buttons on Tray 2 to switch between trays, and it's very cumbersome.
Shift + # is teammate? Didn't actually know that either, I've just used mouseclicks.
Ctrl + # for third tray? Sure, why not. It'll be a bit more cumbersome, but ...to mangle a quote from Jerry Maguire a little...
"You had me at third visible powertray."
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I am probably just adding to the lots, but I have played Defender [EMP/Psi] to level 50, just over 750 hours, and I NEVER use Shift+num for teammates...this could be cause I didnt know it was there, but I have never needed it, so I never looked for it... I like the idea for a 3rd tray...
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I like the idea very much 
Honestly, I don't really care about the keybinds for the third tray. I've only used it for things like the Crey Pistol or the targeting Macros I like to use. I just want the darn thing visible!
I want to second (or third or whatever) the folks that say that the ctrl-# does not get widely used. The only times I hit it, I not only did it by accident, but I probably just got myself a trip to the hospital
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Excellent, please implement as soon as possible. I frequently use shift+# to select team mates, but I've only gotten myself into trouble by accidentally hitting ctrl+# then wondering why my powers weren't firing. (I even specifically unbond ctrl+# to avoid that.)
I like it, poz.
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I would love it and totally agree with the use made of the crtl key ... it can easily be rebound through a macro anyway.
Thanks ... looking forward to seeing that change.
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