RFC on Third Tray Keybinds
The third tray is a fine idea, but what we really need is a button to lock the tray so that in the heat of battle we do not accidently move a power or control click a different power (i'm a lefty and use a different keyboard layout). I have asked all of the members of my supergroup and they concur that a power lock would b e very useful...I hope I posted this message in the rigtht thread.
I think CTRL+number is absolutely the way to go for tray 3.
Looking forward to it.
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In today's binds, the shift+number keys select your teammates.
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Who uses that.
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The ctrl+number keys makes the main tray hop to the given tray number.
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Which I use all the time. Very usefull.
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Of these two, we think the ctrl+number combination is less used and is less generally useful-- especially if we provide a third tray.
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Noooooo! I can't open even more crap on the screen, there isn't any space as it is (and your program is sluggish enough as it is in 800x600 there is no way i could run it higher)
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So, we are considering a change to the default bindings to use left control for the third tray,
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As long as you provide a one click solution to return them to the way they where...
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Making this change this will remove the tray-switching keystrokes (except for the = and - keys which will still rotate through the trays).
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They on the other hand are irrelvant since they are way over on the other side of the keyboard.
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(Further, to promote use of the teammate keystrokes, we are planning on putting small numbers (like the ones in the tray) next to your teammates' icons in the team window.)
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While you remove them again if people use something else? It looks just a weee bit silly to have them on the inspiration slots when the F keys have been reasigned to something else.
Thank you for taking the time and reading/helping some of the pain that some of us have (those with far too many toggles and attacks to list in two bars).
I agree with the majority here - go for it!
I use the right control key as my 'talk' button for teamspeak - it's not fun when I accidently swap my primary tray out when I'm talking and firing
This will be a huge help for Kheldians as well...
Do it. Do it now ....
Personally, I have everything bound up into bind files with the number padm but this does sound like a good idea.
But please, when you are adding this third tray, please give us a bind command to allow us to change the second AND third trays using bind commands.
At current, only the first tray can be swtiched to a specific tray via a bind.
The second tray can be switched, but it's a PREVIOUS | NEXT thing and if the binds get out of order, it messes things up.
Perhaps the following could be created:
MAIN TRAY (currently exists): /goto_tray 9
2nd Tray (does not exist): /goto_tray_2nd 8
3rd Tray (does not exist): /goto_tray_3rd 7
I'm all for using CTRL+number to select entries in the third tray. The current binding usually just leads to errors.
Yes - 100% - Go Go Go!
I agree.
Azure
Throwing my two-influence in, if the issue isn't decided...
Shift+# to select teammates is something I do very often (sometimes almost continuously because of the short buff durations (hint: increase buff durations for short duration powers, please!) if I am using: Force Field, Empathy, or Kinetics. If you have a hero that can Grant Invisibility or Recall Friend, you might also use the Shift+# combo as I do to select teammates.
Ctrl+#, when it is used, is almost always accidental and results in me changing my Tray 1 to something like Tray 9 and then all of a sudden i'm wondering why i'm not attacking (since i use # keys to activate powers and not the mouse).
Not to say Ctrl+# is useless for me, but of the two Ctrl+# is used less. I'd still like a way to switch trays quickly (other than using the + and - keys)
And I really like the idea of locking/unlocking individual powers in place and/or locking trays in place.
I NEED a third tray, and I need it to be default lctrl+key system like EQ2. I have always wanted this. It is because of the lack of this system that I have had to make several macros and key binds. Also, anything to the right of lalt+5 is uncomfortable or requires me to take my hand off the mouse which is not good in heated battles.
Only read the first posting by Poz - I like it!
I have a couple suggestions while we are on the subject of power trays. For one thing, instead of the second tray sliding up as it does, so there are 2 trays taking up screen space when the alt key is held, just have the 2nd tray temporarily replace the first as long as alt is held, and revert to tray 1 when released. Much less clutter that way. Do the same for tray 3 when that feature is added.
Also, making all windows manually resizable would be very nice, including the power tray.
And please add ability to target select objects and doors. Someone else suggested it here, but I'm restating. Yes, I'm one of those people who plays the game with keyboard only, no mouse. But I always have to move my hand to the mouse to open doors or click blinkies. Quite inconvenient when you have to do it frequently in a mission. Ideally, make alternatives so a player never has to touch the mouse.
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(Further, to promote use of the teammate keystrokes, we are planning on putting small numbers (like the ones in the tray) next to your teammates' icons in the team window.)
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It would really be nice if we could assign the order to teammates. For example, being able to set the primary tank as position 1 and the healer as position 2 would allow people to create standard binds to target through the tank and run to the healer.