LucasFilm now in the hands of Disney...
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Posted on: 2012-10-30 13:52 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Gods No!
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
More impartantly: Blue-Ray Holiday Special?
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.......weren't they already?
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Originally Posted by Knight_Marshal
Just replace all the Ewoks with Muppets.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
More impartantly: Blue-Ray Holiday Special?
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Originally Posted by Desi_Nova
Gods No!
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Enough of all of this business crap though!
Who will play Luke and gang in 2+ years? More CGI Wookies? Technology that looks "new yet older" or "Old but Newer"?
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Decades ago when the "Ep7-9" trilogy was first talked about there was the working idea that Mark Hamill would make a cameo appearance as Luke Skywalker as a very old Jedi Master when Mark would be in his fifties or sixties. As fate would have it Mark is now in his sixties IRL so it seems like that could actualy happen now.|
Originally Posted by VoodooCompany
Who will play Luke and gang in 2+ years? More CGI Wookies? Technology that looks "new yet older" or "Old but Newer"?
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Not really sure how you could handle most of the other character like Han or Leia. My guess is that the timeframe for the beginning of EP7 would be far enough in the future that most of the other characters would already be dead. Basically it would be like what ST:TNG was for ST:TOS - a new trilogy set in the Star Wars universe but focused primarily on an entirely new set of "next generation" characters. Obviously you'd still have C-3PO and R2-D2 to provide the over-arcing connection to all the movies.
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Wasn't there a THX-enhanced version that did clean up the visuals/sound, but didn't have any of the stupid edits?
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Originally Posted by Coin
I was wondering about that as well. Fans have been clamoring for a nice, cleaned-up version of the original movie, without the edits, with no Jabba and Han Shot First. Do Disney have the rights to be able to do that?
I know I'd buy the damn thing, just for nostalgia  |
Will we have a really dreadfull Darth Vader this time? I remember that the witch in Snowwhite(Disney) scared me to death when I was a child. Darth Vader (Lucas) on the other hand...let us say that i saw him like a radio that needed some fine tuning 
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Originally Posted by tenzhi
but it also means jar jar binks can become a herald of galactus...
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The laserdiscs of the unaltered originals were transferred to DVD but were not shined up in the process, as I recall.|
Originally Posted by Dark One
Wasn't there a THX-enhanced version that did clean up the visuals/sound, but didn't have any of the stupid edits?
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To be honest, to this day having owned the special editions and having seen the blu-ray versions of the originals and their latest revisions I can still say that the most pointless change was the Han/Greedo scene.
Scenes that give a better view of Mos Eisley or Cloud City for example I don't mind.
Also the one FIX that was way overdue until it finally arrived on DVD years ago was when they remastered and repaired the BROKEN lightsaber FX in Ep 4. Kenobi waving a stick that was shorting out and Vader turning to the closed hangar doors holding a white stick.......
Newsarama offers some unsolicited advice to Disney about how to make the new movies:
http://www.newsarama.com/film/unsoli...star-wars.html
I find it hard to argue with most of this advice.
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It would be hard to blame "Disney" for that, since John Lasseter is the head of Disney Animation.|
Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague
Marvel? Sure. Pixar? Not so much. Cars 2, for example.
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Both Marvel and Pixar seem to be evidence of Disney not so much *doing* the right thing as *not doing* the wrong thing, which is mucking with them too much.
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Agreed. As long as they felt the right people were in place they did seem to keep their hands off and their fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
It would be hard to blame "Disney" for that, since John Lasseter is the head of Disney Animation.
Both Marvel and Pixar seem to be evidence of Disney not so much *doing* the right thing as *not doing* the wrong thing, which is mucking with them too much. |
Did any of you sit down and watch Cars 2? It wasn't awful like many like to suggest. It was a pretty good adaptation of the whole mistaken for spy trope not to mention all the regular spy tropes people love to watch littered throughout it.
I think a lot of people here are just POed over the fact there still isn't an Incredibles sequel.
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I'd pay to watch that movie.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I would love to see the version of the battle of Endor where the elite stormtroopers are defeated by Gonzo, boomerang fish, and Sweetums.
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So would I. But one change...|
Originally Posted by Ulysses Dare
I'd pay to watch that movie.
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The Ewoks would be played by Rizzo, Pepe, and the assorted rats and prawns.
At least the Disney Parks are taking the purchasing in good light...
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I watched Cars 2 flying back from Africa (it's a 26-hour trip, ran out of stuff to do) and I liked it a lot more than Cars. And this from the guy who dislikes Larry the Cable Guy's routine. Of course, I hated Cars, so I'm damning it with faint praise.|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
Yeah, Cars 2 was the first loser for Pixar . . . it was made because Cars was a massive merchandising hit and Cars 2 kept the flow going even though the film wasn't very good. But don't lose confidence with Pixar under Disney -- think Wall-E and Up. Brave was a beautiful film even if the plot was fairly ordinary, and it was still successful.
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Also, it made a ****-ton of money. Earning $560 million on a $200 million budget (with a reported $320 million in merch) doesn't make it a loser. Even the worst-performing Pixar movie is a money-printing machine.
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Just a point of clarification: Lucas never had an over-arching plan for 9 movies. He had some nebulous ideas for a larger universe and backstory, but there wasn't any plan for a "trilogy of trilogies" with Star Wars as the middle part of the story. That's myth-making that came about after the movie's success.|
Originally Posted by Nericus
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When I saw Empire Strikes Back on opening day it was clear to me that Lucas was just making this stuff up as he went along, because half of the characters make bizarre turns that completely change who they were in the first movie. Lucas' long-time producer Gary Kurtz -- who had been in on the Star Wars universe since the 1975 rough drafts -- later confirmed that originally there were no plans to make 9 movies. No long story-arc, no detailed story, nothing. The big announcement at the time was that Lucas was going to make ELEVEN sequels. Not prequels, but sequels. (This was based on the comment that simply by taking the profits from Star Wars they could make those movies before running out of money, even if they all flopped. Personally, I think Lucas was making a Citizen Kane joke. If you've seen Kane, you know what I mean.)
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Yes the 9 movie concept was around since the start but ROTJ does bring things to a close:
1. no more Death Stars 2. Emperor is gone 3. Vader is gone/Anakin redeemed 4. Luke is the last of the Jedi or first of the new depending on your point of view. So what would be left? |
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As I recall, the nebulous plans for 7, 8 and 9 were to continue the rebuilding of the Jedi legacy by Luke (and possibly Leia; and given that Hamill and Fisher are both on good terms with Lucas, this makes it feasible for them to appear) and for Luke to fill the Obi-Wan mentor role just as Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Yoda had done. To make that a constant anchor of the 'wise magician' role would be a very good starting point.
I believe anything else would involve preventing a new Sith Empire from rising, rather than some 'hidden Sith threat'. None of this automatically has to address any of the subsequent novels or media works, because Disney/Lucasfilm is not obliged to.
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Thrawn trilogy gets my vote, even if they have to CGI-in some of the characters like they did with young Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy. Or recast Nathan Fillion as Han Solo if you have to. |
Originally Posted by Nericus
Or......Grand Admiral Thrawn.
The Heir the Empire book trilogy should easily sustain a trilogy, but they would have to time jump it a bit due to how much time has passed and how likely few of the main cast would likely NOT want to return (cough...Harrison Ford...cough). |
Failing that, the X-Wing book series (Rogue Squadron/Wraith Squadron) has some great possibilities for things that could happen in a post-Empire universe. Something that big doesn't just disappear overnight; there will still be fragments of it causing trouble, and new players trying to take advantage of the situation.
Just so long as it doesn't involve the complete cop-out Vong...
(not that I think Disney will actually go with any of those, unfortunately)
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I know it made money . . . which is why they made it, of course. But it was the first poorly reviewed Pixar movie. So while it was a commercial success, it was not a critical success while all of the other Pixar movies were loved by critics and audiences alike.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
I watched Cars 2 flying back from Africa (it's a 26-hour trip, ran out of stuff to do) and I liked it a lot more than Cars. And this from the guy who dislikes Larry the Cable Guy's routine. Of course, I hated Cars, so I'm damning it with faint praise.
Also, it made a ****-ton of money. Earning $560 million on a $200 million budget (with a reported $320 million in merch) doesn't make it a loser. Even the worst-performing Pixar movie is a money-printing machine. |
I liked Cars. I actually liked it better than I expected. Cars 2 is the ONLY Pixar movie I have not purchased. It wasn't horrible and was actually somewhat entertaining, but for a Pixar film, it was disappointing. Personally I was not that crazy about Wall-E's heavy handed "message," but the robots were cute. One that I liked a lot but is often forgotten is Ratatouille -- it is nice to see an animated film where the ending is a little bittersweet.
I think that Disney will do a very good job with the Star Wars universe . . . you don't pay 4 Billion for something unless you are going to make good use out of it.
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I only dipped a toe into the EU then ran away -- because of terribleness -- but I think they'd have to find stories that take place decades after Return of the Jedi since there's no way to pull off anything else if they're to use the same actors.|
Originally Posted by SuperOz
As I recall, the nebulous plans for 7, 8 and 9 were to continue the rebuilding of the Jedi legacy by Luke (and possibly Leia; and given that Hamill and Fisher are both on good terms with Lucas, this makes it feasible for them to appear) and for Luke to fill the Obi-Wan mentor role just as Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Yoda had done. To make that a constant anchor of the 'wise magician' role would be a very good starting point.
I believe anything else would involve preventing a new Sith Empire from rising, rather than some 'hidden Sith threat'. None of this automatically has to address any of the subsequent novels or media works, because Disney/Lucasfilm is not obliged to. S. |
I do agree that putting Master Skywalker front-and-center would be the best idea, since you know Hamill has already called Disney and offered to sign up. Personally, I'd use him sparingly, the way Obi-Wan was used in the original: the big gun you pull out for major plot twists.
I read that Newsarama article offering advice and they had some good points there, too. I disagree about the "no more C3PO" thing, though, because they're really reacting to bad writing than an inherently bad character. I'm not a fan of Threepio, but it's not like the craptacular characters created for the prequels, not a single one of which is as interesting as any from the the good trilogy. Qui-Gon comes closest, but he's really just Kenobi II.
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I'm not sure which message you object to in Wall-E (Love conquers all? Be true to yourself?) but it's nowhere near as soul-crushingly horrible as Up, one of the most depressing movies ever made. Or Finding Nemo, which starts off with a mass murder and never recovers... not the least reason because of the lamest humor in any Pixar movie.|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
I know it made money . . . which is why they made it, of course. But it was the first poorly reviewed Pixar movie. So while it was a commercial success, it was not a critical success while all of the other Pixar movies were loved by critics and audiences alike.
I liked Cars. I actually liked it better than I expected. Cars 2 is the ONLY Pixar movie I have not purchased. It wasn't horrible and was actually somewhat entertaining, but for a Pixar film, it was disappointing. Personally I was not that crazy about Wall-E's heavy handed "message," but the robots were cute. One that I liked a lot but is often forgotten is Ratatouille -- it is nice to see an animated film where the ending is a little bittersweet. I think that Disney will do a very good job with the Star Wars universe . . . you don't pay 4 Billion for something unless you are going to make good use out of it. |
I just looked up the reviews for Cars 2 and it's pretty clear you're misremembering. Many of the major reviewers gave it a thumb's up. Roger Ebert, LA Times, Rolling Stone, Boston Globe, Hollywood Reporter, San Francisco Chronicle, Entertainment Weekly, USA Today, Variety -- all positive reviews. NY Times, WSJ, Village Voice, Time and the NY Post didn't like it. Not the raves Cars had, but I find those raves to be utterly inexplicable.
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I'd like to see Disney do a Young Jedi Knights series, personally...
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