LucasFilm now in the hands of Disney...
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Posted on: 2012-10-30 13:52 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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money talks.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
What's funny is that a co-worker of mine went into full on nerd rage at work when he heard of this and was ranting that Lucas had flipped his lid, gone senile, etc etc etc and was ranting how Lucas could do this. Then I showed him how much money Lucas got for this deal and he said and I quote
"A price tag that magnitude......answers ALL of my questions." |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
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Indeed it does, and I do understand that Lucas is feeling the years a bit more and wants to retire and move on and that he wants to ensure that his creation will continue without him. I honestly had thought that his kids would one day take over and who knows, perhaps when Lucas' chosen one decides to step aside perhaps one of Lucas' kids will take over still. |
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
money talks.
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Still for all the actual and perceived problems of all six films, I do respect Lucas for all his other contributions to the industry as well as the fact that IF Star Wars had failed back in 1977......where WOULD the world of sci-fi be at now? Lucas and his creation changed things back then for the better, imo and I am glad that he wants to see it all go on without him.
Now here's hoping that Disney delivers.
Hmmmmm I wonder if Joss Whedon has any Star Wars ideas.
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If star wars failed at the box office in 77, I think it still would of have had a cult following and sci-fi genre probably would be still where it is at today. If Star Wars failed and with the budget they had, most studios probably wouldnt have been itching to finance many big budget sci-fi flicks after that until about a decade later when something else would have filled that void and taken the spot that was suppose to be starwars and someone else would have had Lucas' cash flow. Maybe Spielberg instead on top of his already large pockets?
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Indeed it does, and I do understand that Lucas is feeling the years a bit more and wants to retire and move on and that he wants to ensure that his creation will continue without him. I honestly had thought that his kids would one day take over and who knows, perhaps when Lucas' chosen one decides to step aside perhaps one of Lucas' kids will take over still.
Still for all the actual and perceived problems of all six films, I do respect Lucas for all his other contributions to the industry as well as the fact that IF Star Wars had failed back in 1977......where WOULD the world of sci-fi be at now? Lucas and his creation changed things back then for the better, imo and I am glad that he wants to see it all go on without him. Now here's hoping that Disney delivers. Hmmmmm I wonder if Joss Whedon has any Star Wars ideas. |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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I think they Disney said that because it's not a clean ownership situation. Both Spielberg and Paramount have a stake in the Indy franchise.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
From the article: "We didn't ascribe any value to the Indiana Jones franchise as part of this acquisition," Iger said later on in the call, suggesting no further installments of that franchise is on the horizon.
So....they did obtain it but are shelving it? Or it wasn't part of the deal? I can't recall of Lucas solely owns Indy or if Spielberg and he were co-owners. |
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Originally Posted by Nericus
What's funny is that a co-worker of mine went into full on nerd rage at work when he heard of this and was ranting that Lucas had flipped his lid, gone senile, etc etc etc and was ranting how Lucas could do this. Then I showed him how much money Lucas got for this deal and he said and I quote
"A price tag that magnitude......answers ALL of my questions." |
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What bothers me most about this is something that's lost in all the talk about the IPs that Disney bought.
They also got Industrial Light and Magic in the deal, the company that all the big studios use for their special effects. That means that every movie from any studio with any high-quality special effects whatsoever will be putting money directly into Disney's pockets.
I'm not sure that's a good thing for the industry. This is worth keeping an eye on.
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Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
What bothers me most about this is something that's lost in all the talk about the IPs that Disney bought.
They also got Industrial Light and Magic in the deal, the company that all the big studios use for their special effects. That means that every movie from any studio with any high-quality special effects whatsoever will be putting money directly into Disney's pockets. I'm not sure that's a good thing for the industry. This is worth keeping an eye on. |
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Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
What bothers me most about this is something that's lost in all the talk about the IPs that Disney bought.
They also got Industrial Light and Magic in the deal, the company that all the big studios use for their special effects. That means that every movie from any studio with any high-quality special effects whatsoever will be putting money directly into Disney's pockets. I'm not sure that's a good thing for the industry. This is worth keeping an eye on. |
ILM is the big company for that right now. If Disney screws this up, some other company will become the big name. Where the talent's at will shift, and things will move on. It'll take several years, but it'll happen.
I think that the only people that have to worry about this are the ones making comic book based movies. Be they DC, or Marvel based ones that Disney would like to recover the rights to. As I understand it, the Marvel ones need a movie every few years to prevent the rights from reverting, so they can't wait this out.
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This is great news! It means Muppet Star Wars! With cameos by Wolverine and Aladdin!
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I'd watch the pancake out of a buddy flick with Wolverine and Han Solo.
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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
This is great news! It means Muppet Star Wars! With cameos by Wolverine and Aladdin!
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Let's go one better then Muppet Star Wars: ROBOT CHICKEN has done Star Wars and DC and is hoping to do the Marvel characters next.....|
Originally Posted by Smersh
I'd watch the pancake out of a buddy flick with Wolverine and Han Solo.
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So how about Robot Chicken Marvel/Star Wars? Oh, and throw TRON into it too.
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Yeah, the 9-movie idea was around at the beginning - and Uncle George did his best to backpedal away from it over the past decade. I really, really like the idea of Lucas providing the rough ideas and outline of a new trilogy, with someone else converting it into a polished, final product.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Just for some historical perspective I first heard of Lucas proposing a post-Empire "Episode 7, 8 and 9" Star Wars trilogy as far back as the late 1970s even before Empire Strikes Back had made it to the big screen. So what's fascinating to me about all this is not that a third SW trilogy is happening but the fact that will have taken Lucas almost 40 years to accomplish. For me it's pretty much always been a matter of when, not if.
 Now obviously 35+ years ago I'm sure Lucas never had a clue that he'd be selling a movie company he founded to Disney for $4+ billion so I'll admit that detail was surprising to me too. But the key idea that Star Wars was always meant to be (at the very least) a trio of trilogies has been Lucas' grand scheme for decades. I just hope for his sake he'll live long enough to see it come to fruition. |
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I would love to see the version of the battle of Endor where the elite stormtroopers are defeated by Gonzo, boomerang fish, and Sweetums.
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Originally Posted by Smersh
I'd watch the pancake out of a buddy flick with Wolverine and Han Solo.
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Just replace all the Ewoks with Muppets.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I would love to see the version of the battle of Endor where the elite stormtroopers are defeated by Gonzo, boomerang fish, and Sweetums.
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
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I actually approve. They did well with my two faves Marvel and Pixar so I trust them fully 
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Marvel? Sure. Pixar? Not so much. Cars 2, for example.
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Originally Posted by Tater Todd
I actually approve. They did well with my two faves Marvel and Pixar so I trust them fully
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
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Yes the 9 movie concept was around since the start but ROTJ does bring things to a close:|
Originally Posted by BlackSun17
Yeah, the 9-movie idea was around at the beginning - and Uncle George did his best to backpedal away from it over the past decade. I really, really like the idea of Lucas providing the rough ideas and outline of a new trilogy, with someone else converting it into a polished, final product.
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1. no more Death Stars
2. Emperor is gone
3. Vader is gone/Anakin redeemed
4. Luke is the last of the Jedi or first of the new depending on your point of view.
So what would be left? Things that we got in the books; imperial warlords vying for control, dark jedi/sith wannabes, mopping up imperial remnants. Grand Admiral Thrawn was the one that nearly toppled the Republic until the Vong came along.
So for ep 7 to 9.....what would we have for Luke and co. to face? A new Empire? Some sith wannabe that rediscovered lost Sith teachings?
Or......Grand Admiral Thrawn.
The Heir the Empire book trilogy should easily sustain a trilogy, but they would have to time jump it a bit due to how much time has passed and how likely few of the main cast would likely NOT want to return (cough...Harrison Ford...cough). If they did a Star Wars animated series set after ROTJ then they could easily adapt many of the EU novels with and use voice actors that resemble the voices of the main characters.
Disney has many options to explore and with the acquisition of all of Lucas' toys in addition to their own resources they definitely have the means to explore them.
Hmmm just had an interesting thought: for years the EU novels all had certain rules from Lucas, one particular rule is that the writers may NEVER kill Luke/Han and Leia, no exceptions and they MUST get his approval to kill other main characters, case in point Chewbacca. I wonder if any future EU novels will be bound by that rule or will someone finally be able to write a classy and epic finale to Luke/Han/Leia
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I thought the Incredibles was made when Disney took over the reigns? Or maybe it was halfway in when Disney bought them. I remember there being quite a few issues with the creator. I think that's why there never was an Incredibles 2.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague
Marvel? Sure. Pixar? Not so much. Cars 2, for example.
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My primary hope for this is that it will result in the release of a blu-ray version of the original trilogy unsullied by George's edits to fit his vision.
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Brad Bird has no problem with Disney. He's been busy doing live action films, which is something that he always wanted to do. The Pixar folks have said that Incredibles is Brad's baby, so it won't go forward until he is ready to do it. Disney/Pixar has made it clear that they are ready to go with Incredibles II when Brad is. (My son works for Disney and keeps track of this stuff.)|
Originally Posted by Tater Todd
I thought the Incredibles was made when Disney took over the reigns? Or maybe it was halfway in when Disney bought them. I remember there being quite a few issues with the creator. I think that's why there never was an Incredibles 2.
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Brad Bird has no problem with Disney. He's been busy doing live action films, which is something that he always wanted to do. The Pixar folks have said that Incredibles is Brad's baby, so it won't go forward until he is ready to do it. Disney/Pixar has made it clear that they are ready to go with Incredibles II when Brad is. (My son works for Disney and keeps track of this stuff.)
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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
This is great news! It means Muppet Star Wars! With cameos by Wolverine and Aladdin!
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I was wondering about that as well. Fans have been clamoring for a nice, cleaned-up version of the original movie, without the edits, with no Jabba and Han Shot First. Do Disney have the rights to be able to do that?|
Originally Posted by Mandu
My primary hope for this is that it will result in the release of a blu-ray version of the original trilogy unsullied by George's edits to fit his vision.
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I know I'd buy the damn thing, just for nostalgia
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What's funny is that a co-worker of mine went into full on nerd rage at work when he heard of this and was ranting that Lucas had flipped his lid, gone senile, etc etc etc and was ranting how Lucas could do this. Then I showed him how much money Lucas got for this deal and he said and I quote
"A price tag that magnitude......answers ALL of my questions."
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