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Originally Posted by Black_Specter

What about tweaking and repackaging the game a bit as a stand alone game that can be run on PCs and game consoles such as the PS3 or X-box? Multiplayer co-op options could be worked in, if not through servers, then at least IP to IP network connectivity. It's an idea at least, and a way for NcSoft to capitalize on what they consider a waning market by creating a new product out of the old, as well as give die hard fans a copy of COH to play for as long as they like...?

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

The problem with that is that of all the MMOs, CoH must be pretty near the top of the list when it comes to required PvP - heroes vs villains is like the classic match-up

Originally Posted by DarkBlaster_NA

Question, Do you always have to be a complete killjoy? Every post i see from your end just has to be made to be against this game.

And i didn't ask about WoW, I asked about WoW clones, Guess what? They aren't doing so hot.

Originally Posted by DarkBlaster_NA

Can someone please tell me how we got from giving up, To ponies, To religion, to more ponies, to more religion (or lack thereof?)

Originally Posted by JayboH

Lols... guys, Synapse works on STO along with Arbiter Hawk now...

Originally Posted by Optimus_Dex

You have some proof of this?

Originally Posted by Starsman

While googling up some information I found this interesting article, click image to go through:

Originally Posted by BlueBattler

Yeah, 80 million would be way more than City was worth in of itself.

I did wonder in the past though if some of the tech behind the game in of itself may have had more value than the IP-- super sidekicking, power customization, AE, etc. Even those things, unique as they may be, I don't see making the City franchise worth 80 million.

Originally Posted by SteelDominator

If I knew COH was closing in 2012 and it was even a year before shut down I would have felt better about it. I would have known way ahead of time, not within 90 days. Even then after all development was completed and NCSoft would say it was time to move, I would have accepted that.

I can't trust NCsofts product anymore. They have built the reputation of pulling the plug without proper notice. 90 days isn't proper notice.

Originally Posted by Starsman

I did not mean actually players, at least not any that is familiar with the game. I meant publishers. Despite doing well CoH never reached huge numbers and it ended up canceling. Heck, I think you may be able to walk to some publishers with a finished CoH2 and they may say "ok but that name got to change."

But I do still think players that were never familiar with the game, players that only heard about it during it's cancelation coverage, are unlikely to remember anything other than, well... "it was that canceled MMO."



Maybe. I got to admit I never felt a huge love for the lore in the game. I loved playing every new story arc at least once. I loved to find out this or that tie-up, no mater how cliche or lame it may have been (for the exception of the origin of power, I still hate that one arc and grinned my teeth all the way trough.) But the heroes in the universe? Positron? Statesman? Never really saw them as much but filler, or near placeholders. Volatile replacements for Superman or Ironman (not literally.)

My point is: I don't think the IP is as strong. I don't think the comic books did too well either, so that may be a point proving this.

I'm not saying it has to be a strong IP to be a successful and loved game, heck I loved the hell out of it, but independent of the game I don't feel the IP packed much punch.




I don't hold my breath for many reasons. The only way a game called "City of Heroes 2" will happen is if NCSoft develops it themselves. It CAN happen. The SaveCOH may have given them the idea there is potential in there for a new game, and a game done by them, their way, may be marketable in Asia. But it would hold zero resemblance to what we play today, not without the same lead team.

Originally Posted by Vyver

Yeah, CO is and was designed to be a comic book game and nothing else

while CoH was merely a "super hero" game that could be whatever you wanted it to be. I've seen people play it as a comic book, a detective drama, or the Avengers Movie.

Originally Posted by Bad_Influence

Non sequiter. Participating in real life is not optional, unless one suicides.

My entertainment: optional.

And since life itself involves tolerating intense, high-stress risk, I am LESS LIKELY to be wanting to endure that in my entertainment, too.

NCsoft is taking things from me, that I consider to have ACTUAL MONETARY VALUE. I spent thousands of hours of time, and hundreds of real-world dollars, on my alts. NCSoft is taking all that away from me - and from us - without so much as a sincere by-your-leave. "yeah, we love you guys, and you mean a lot to us!" *YANKS RUG OUT FROM UNDER US*

You bet your bottom dollar I will think once, twice and then thrice before I give them or any MMO publisher the opportunity to do it again.

Originally Posted by Bad_Influence

This is true, but being about to endure one horrid stroke of that sword makes me far, far less inclined to want to endure another one in the [potential] near future.

Having watched the Broadcast chat in CO, it seems even by player admission it is obvious that this game is almost completely stagnant, which makes me wonder A LOT about its long-term viability.

I am sure we will never know, but it would be interesting to know how much of a chilling effect CoX's closure will have on its players who move on to other venues, especially those who were only playing the one game [CoX]. It has made me really, really reluctant to invest time and especially, CASH in something that can get yanked out from under me tomorrow - which I would think would be a bad idea indeed for MMOs running real-world cash shops. How many are feeling a similar reluctance?

We will never know.

Originally Posted by Alannon

If you recall, Marvel sued Cryptic over City of Heroes and the ability to create custom characters that looked like Marvel Characters. Now, they are making a Marvel game and you can't help but play a Marvel character. Some logic they have there...

Originally Posted by LadyGrimrose

Main issue with re-investing in the two games they want to focus on (Aion and Lineage 2) is their peak is done here. Both of these games thrive on PvP content and monthly subs. Out comes GW2 which has PvP done really well and no monthly fee. Yes, Lineage 2 and Aion could go to Hybrid or F2P, but the PvP engines supporting both those games is horrid compared to GW2 which has players singing its praises.

Here's the problem, people know about GW2 because it's the current cream of the crop. No matter what they do with the other two games they will always be behind GW2 and you can bet Arenanet will ensure that.

The problem with Lineage 2 is it is now dated and a pure PvP based game. That is the only demographic that will find that game appealing. PvP is a niche market and only appeals to a certain group of players. Thus, because the game is dated and becase it only works for a certain portion of the player base it will never measure up. Why play Lineage 2 when you could play with all your MMO friends in a game that is targeted to every gaming demographic.

The problem with Aion is the grindfest and the forced grouping experience. Players in the States detest grinding and its an even smaller niche market than PvP. Again, why play this when you and all your friends can play a game that caters to all of you.

And let's go to Blade & Soul. The game is not being supported where it was released first. There are a couple of articles wondering why NcSoft wants to bring out an unfinished project here. Again, it's PvP and again its a grindfest. Not to mention the fact that the game is offending (and believe it or not this is harder to do than most think) male and female gamers with its "less armor is better" approach to the characters. Again, why trust a game that is having people complain in its launch territories and, again, focuses on a niche player demographic?
Note: The name of the game is also being critisized atm. "Blade and Soul" is far to similar to the original name of the Soul Caliber series "Soul Blade." NcSoft is touting a fighting game MMO with the hopes people will give it a shot based on brand familiarity. The setting is similar as well.

NcSoft shot themselves in the foot when GW2 launched. They have all these lofty goals for games that don't measure up. In order to "refocus" they would have to, literally, order Arenanet to sabotage their own creation and that would give that development team ammunition for a "corporate sabotage" suite. I have no doubt NcSoft had hoped GW2 might have been a lackluster performer, but right now it's going strong and why shouldn't it?

You can log in and your friends can help you while still gaining for their own characters. PvP is dynamic and amazing. Casual play isn't ignored and you are rewarded for exploration, trade skills, etc. fairly well. And it doesn't take long to reach the maximum level, even through caual play.

Right now NcSoft's worst enemy is themselves. Shuffling money to concepts that are already failing or doomed to fail is proof they just don't understand this market.

Originally Posted by Xieveral

If you are one that has been vocal about the game closure via social networking, be careful with your personal information and mindful in how you express your displeasure.

According to a poster from the SaveCoH facebook group, they were banned from the game for what NCSoft deemed "negative" commentary on the English facebook page.

Again, take this as rumor. The suspension may be unrelated to the comment, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

Originally Posted by RemusShepherd

I'd have to rebind every time I switched weapons, and every time I played a different character. Sorry, that's not a workaround.

Until they improve their interface and gameplay, I consider GW2 an okay game designed for hard-core gamers with stupendous twitch reflexes. I'm getting old, I literally cannot play games like that anymore.

Originally Posted by Sol_Eternal

I find it absolutely fascinating that this game is going down while other lesser games of the same genre continue to function. How on earth does Champions Online continue while City of Heroes vanishes? What a horrible joke this is on all of us who have been loyal to the game through the years. Frustrating to say the least. And please do not patronize us by telling us you've exhausted all efforts to sell the game to another company. You're telling us this within a month of the sunset announcement! Get back to work and get it done. No excuses, just results.

Check out my tribute on YouTube: "Journey Through Our City Of Heroes"

Originally Posted by TonyV

For what it's worth, I don't have any particular animosity against ArenaNet or against Guild Wars 2. They seem like nice enough people, and they undoubtedly work very hard on the game to make it as fun as possible for its community.

The problem, however, is that ArenaNet is beholden to NCsoft just as Paragon Studios was. There's absolutely nothing stopping NCsoft from pulling the rug out from under them just like they did Paragon Studios.

Originally Posted by cohRock

Missed portents?

1) About a year ago, the Test Server was wiped. Not in itself evil; we always knew that the devs reserved the right to wipe or even shut down the test server at any time. But after six years of unofficial support for the tester community, all characters were wiped. No warning nor explanation was given. Everyone, including many advanced native characters were just gone one day. Note that the test server had been overwritten before; the devs would announce that a backup would be made, a copy of Freedom (?) would replace it, and when the testing was over, the actual test characters would be restored. Not this time.

2) About six months ago, official foreign language was dropped, both in the forums and on the Zukunft and Vigilance servers as well. Since I speak neither German nor French, I felt slightly bad for those players, but I didn't think it was something that would affect me.

3) Two days before the closure announcement, Zwill held his final coffee talk ( http://www.twitch.tv/paragonstudios/b/330380418 ) as a Paragon Studios employee. It started late, was very disorganized, and covered nothing very interesting. While they joked about upcoming "secret projects", I wonder now if they sensed the reaper.

That all said, I still hope that somehow City of Heroes continues. Still, maybe I wasn't listening as well as I should have been.

Originally Posted by FrostPox

But with that said, I like the game enough that if the lifetime sub ever goes on sale and I have the cash to spare, I'd buy it