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Pretty much this. I find those who go straight to the "little kids in revealing outfit" when it comes to some ofthese games, when they know the characters aren't little kids at all, is basically them being trolls, to get others not to play it.
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Those are clearly characters designed specifically to have the proportions and appearance of kids. From a culture that has done this sort of thing in a manner so creepy that it's a widely-acknowledged issue even within that culture. So it's hard to blame people when that's the first thought that comes to mind when seeing such characters from said culture.
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Had a quick look at the site,my impression characters are very limited in looks very much like Guild wars 1 never seen 2 or 3,will not be playing this .
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I like the artists style and it looks pretty but it doesn't scratch my Super Hero itch.
About two dozen of my "main" alts have origins in Asian Martial Arts Fantasy. They may have just found a new home in Blade and Soul.
I have been in love with Martial Arts since I was 6, which has been over 30 years. When I first say this game a year or so ago it excited me, and I would have bought and played it w/o a second though. Now however NCSoft can bite me, I will NEVER buy another one of their products. It is just a bad investment into a company I don't trust.
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About two dozen of my "main" alts have origins in Asian Martial Arts Fantasy. They may have just found a new home in Blade and Soul.
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Some people never learn.
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I want CoH to continue on, I still think it had life in it and a profit to be made. But I realize NCSoft isn't the only company to shut the doors to their MMOs
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In an attempt to be even handed and balanced, I googled Hyung-Tae Kim's work to see what the big deal is, because the gaming press seems to keep banging on about his "distinctive style".
What I saw was pretty much what I'd see if I typed "Korean MMO" into Google's image search. Which I did btw, just to check
The only major difference was that Kim's work seems to have a higher than average boob size compared to most Korean games. And boob constriction. All his females (adult females, not the creepy kid ones) seem to be in perpetual satin bondage.
I've seen numerous nicknames in this thread for Blade and Soul and similar Korean MMOs so I'll add mine here - ever since I saw screenies from Lineage2, I've mentally grouped such things under the blanket name "Swords and Panties".
Someone said earlier that visual style alone isn't a reason to damn a game outright - and that's a valid point.
To a point.
I have several ancient PC game titles on my shelf that I keep playing, despite the fact some are a decade or more old, so obviously they must have something going for them besides the graphics. But I also have titles I've bought and never played more than 5 minutes because their visual style simply overwhelmed the gameplay.
Blade and Soul falls into that category for me - the visual style suffocates the game. I had to laugh when I read the text of the press release concerning the launch of Blade and Soul for the west. It said the designers were working to "aggressively tailor" the game for the western market. NCSoft's track record in the west says clearly they have absolutely no idea what works in the western market (pushing Aion while killing Tabula Rasa and City of Heroes), so I await the results of this "aggressive tailoring" with amusement.
Perhaps they'll replace one of the creepy kiddie races with a "Gun Bimbo" race that retains the huge constricted boobs, but fights using an M16 instead - that sounds quite western doesn't it?
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Perhaps they'll replace one of the creepy kiddie races with a "Gun Bimbo" race that retains the huge constricted boobs, but fights using an M16 instead - that sounds quite western doesn't it?
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;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Originally Posted by Turjan
In an attempt to be even handed and balanced, I googled Hyung-Tae Kim's work to see what the big deal is, because the gaming press seems to keep banging on about his "distinctive style".
What I saw was pretty much what I'd see if I typed "Korean MMO" into Google's image search. Which I did btw, just to check The only major difference was that Kim's work seems to have a higher than average boob size compared to most Korean games. And boob constriction. All his females (adult females, not the creepy kid ones) seem to be in perpetual satin bondage. I've seen numerous nicknames in this thread for Blade and Soul and similar Korean MMOs so I'll add mine here - ever since I saw screenies from Lineage2, I've mentally grouped such things under the blanket name "Swords and Panties". Someone said earlier that visual style alone isn't a reason to damn a game outright - and that's a valid point. To a point. I have several ancient PC game titles on my shelf that I keep playing, despite the fact some are a decade or more old, so obviously they must have something going for them besides the graphics. But I also have titles I've bought and never played more than 5 minutes because their visual style simply overwhelmed the gameplay. Blade and Soul falls into that category for me - the visual style suffocates the game. I had to laugh when I read the text of the press release concerning the launch of Blade and Soul for the west. It said the designers were working to "aggressively tailor" the game for the western market. NCSoft's track record in the west says clearly they have absolutely no idea what works in the western market (pushing Aion while killing Tabula Rasa and City of Heroes), so I await the results of this "aggressive tailoring" with amusement. Perhaps they'll replace one of the creepy kiddie races with a "Gun Bimbo" race that retains the huge constricted boobs, but fights using an M16 instead - that sounds quite western doesn't it? |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTugqDo1WM
Japanese take it to another...level.
Boobs and Shame. I like that name best
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Maybe the MMO industry is just like the Big Tobacco industry; targeting the young and susceptible at their base desire, hooking them and then discarding them in favor of more-of-the-same... like trophy wives, hollywood actresses, supermodels and American workers.
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Hahaha from a person that has seen asian movies, games, and there "comic books/manga/manhwa" you sir reminded me of this ridiculous boob action. 0.50 secs for "Swords and Panties" ahem guns and boobs.
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well at LEAST the new Queens Blade MMORPG will finally put an end to that sort of thing..
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Originally Posted by XxPsyrenxX
Hahaha from a person that has seen asian movies, games, and there "comic books/manga/manhwa" you sir reminded me of this ridiculous boob action. 0.50 secs for "Swords and Panties" ahem guns and boobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTugqDo1WM Japanese take it to another...level. |
Oh GOD! It's gratuitous fan service like that gives all anime a bad name.
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Anime guys really need to buy themselves a blow-up doll. That's just stupidly embarrassing.
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I still maintain that, at its core, this is 'City of Dolls' (for better or worse).
Its Barbie (and Ken) on a drug binge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A... with FREEM!
Sims with superpowers.
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Honestly, after looking at the promo screenies for Blade and Soul, I think I know what I'll do after CoH is gone, I'll license an engine, hire ten Full Sail grads for minimum wage plus one coder, and slam out a B+S knockoff where everyone wears even less. It won't have any gameplay at all, but no one will notice since they're only playing with one hand anyway.
I'll undercut the competition by only charging $6.99 a month. My motto will be "Half off... for half off!"
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Originally Posted by XxPsyrenxX
Hahaha from a person that has seen asian movies, games, and there "comic books/manga/manhwa" you sir reminded me of this ridiculous boob action. 0.50 secs for "Swords and Panties" ahem guns and boobs.
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Anime guys really need to buy themselves a blow-up doll. That's just stupidly embarrassing.
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HOTD is a fanservice title (Zombies, T&A, and extreme Violence. Go figure...), not arguing that in the least. But Ironik's comment is just as vulgar and ignorant to those of us who enjoy that sub-class of Anime/Manga. I'll even admit that Madhouse kinda went overboard with the 'Matrix Boobs' sequence, and I enjoy that Title.
I also have a Staff Fighting HOTD expy that might want to chat w/you Ironik...
Now then...
I don't clearly recall the discussion of B&S on these Boards nearly Four years ago, but I managed to rip the teaser vid from the web site that was linked in the discussion thread at that time. As someone who tends to play Female Characters, I don't really care for the overall 'normal' Female character design (I give the little critter race a pass). I think it has to do with the overall body shape. It just 'feels wrong' to me.
I just seriously wonder WTF took them that much time to do. IIRC, B&S was supposed to be (Asian) launched back in 2010 and was just launched there back in mid-summer...
Honestly, I'm not very impressed at this point.
Thank you for the time...
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gRR, I just hope a new publisher somehow aquires CoH IP/franchise, make it happen, someone out there can make this game continue! THis is BS NCSOFT!
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Now I haven't taken a full look at why someone would use 'that' particular sequence from High School of the Dead in this discussion of B&S, but honestly it's seriously out of context.
HOTD is a fanservice title (Zombies, T&A, and extreme Violence. Go figure...), not arguing that in the least. But Ironik's comment is just as vulgar and ignorant to those of us who enjoy that sub-class of Anime/Manga. I'll even admit that Madhouse kinda went overboard with the 'Matrix Boobs' sequence, and I enjoy that Title. I also have a Staff Fighting HOTD expy that might want to chat w/you Ironik... Now then... I don't clearly recall the discussion of B&S on these Boards nearly Four years ago, but I managed to rip the teaser vid from the web site that was linked in the discussion thread at that time. As someone who tends to play Female Characters, I don't really care for the overall 'normal' Female character design (I give the little critter race a pass). I think it has to do with the overall body shape. It just 'feels wrong' to me. I just seriously wonder WTF took them that much time to do. IIRC, B&S was supposed to be (Asian) launched back in 2010 and was just launched there back in mid-summer... Honestly, I'm not very impressed at this point. Thank you for the time... |
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I just don't get the Korean suits. They just axed COH and replaced it with another of their cloned fantasy grindfest? I played Lineage 1 & 2 before and I absolutely hated it even though the characters looked gorgeous. I even hated quest grinding that was in WoW by the time I hit WOTLK.
I guess it may sell in Korea or parts of Asia where the players don't mind the grind & can stand the lack of originality.
But I can't see that it will do well in the Western Market. Even in Singapore, grindfest mmos are starting to lose their appeal. The playerbase are becoming jaded with MMOs in general and have matured to a certain degree that they expect more. Not to mention people now prefer games that do not hog up as much time and opt to go for a more casual gaming experience.
NCSOFT really needs to understand the market they are trying to pitch their new product to.
I will miss you City of Heroes..
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I just don't get the Korean suits. They just axed COH and replaced it with another of their cloned fantasy grindfest? I played Lineage 1 & 2 before and I absolutely hated it even though the characters looked gorgeous. I even hated quest grinding that was in WoW by the time I hit WOTLK.
I guess it may sell in Korea or parts of Asia where the players don't mind the grind & can stand the lack of originality. But I can't see that it will do well in the Western Market. Even in Singapore, grindfest mmos are starting to lose their appeal. The playerbase are becoming jaded with MMOs in general and have matured to a certain degree that they expect more. Not to mention people now prefer games that do not hog up as much time and opt to go for a more casual gaming experience. NCSOFT really needs to understand the market they are trying to pitch their new product to. |
I'd say the difference in this fantasy setting is it's more asian based and less european.
They also say it's less of a grindfest, and they plan to make it even less so for the western audience.
By no means pick up the game if it doesn't appeal to you, but it hasn't even reached NA/EU yet, to know if it's the grindfest you think it is (which they say it isnt).
And if you'd rather not pick it up because it's by NCSoft, don't pick it up for that reason
But I do fail to see the lack of originality. What, because it has some cute animal looking race that's been done before?
The setting looks different than I've seen in other MMOs, have no idea how different the gameplay is. Do you know?
Edit: But I do see it doing poorly in the western market, as I think locking the Force Master behind an all female race or a race of tiny animal people and the Summoner to just a class of tiny animal people, will be what keeps the western audience out.
How many times have we heard on the forums from male players they can't get into playing a female superhero? The same will apply to B&S, and they'll want to play those classes.
If they made it so the Jin at the very least could be all the classes, it might stand a chance.
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Very Strange..a number of my posts have been deleted from this section of the forums..OH WELL! Time to repost.
Not interested in this game for a number of reasons. One is there are to many fantasy MMO's out there. I'm done with dungeon crawlers. Two I only like Superhero MMOs, Three It's NCsoft, and NCsoft is as dead to me now as the ScyFy channel.
As for Blade and Soul, sadly its been a title I've been looking forward to since I first saw the premise of it however many years ago. Kung Fu MMO that uses real time fighting combo's rather than 1/2/3/4.
Games can be grindy if they make the grind fun. Hell I still log into generic farm maps in the AE to watch my Plant/Storm controller make a mess of as many 8 man mobs grouping up as possible.
I'm not trying to defend the game, there is no real need too. If you like it, play it. If you don't. Move along. Trying to slander while playing a game that has the same potential for the abuse you are playing makes you come off as silly. Trying to justify with with "Oh well our models are 8 head sizes where theirs are only 4.75" is just dumb. Espeically when you can scroll down face options and choose from ones designed specifically to look "Young". Its a 10ish year old game engine with 3 only character models for players. I somehow think the exclusion of young character models is tied that and not some moral high ground.
That's the point zipping just over your head.
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