Another place you might want to consider sending emails to is Gutters. They write popular webcomics based on the comic book industry and everything associated with it. Considering this is the world's most popular superhero MMO, and it draws so much inspiration from comic books, I'm sure Ryan Sohmer would whip up something based around this game's plight. That, at least, would get some more media exposure.
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Originally Posted by Quinch
Statesman.
Reichsman. Tyrant. Olympian Guard Tyrant Clones. Seriously, I should be surprised we never got a Stateszombie. |
(I know it was the former Hero #1, but look so much alike)
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I don't read Gutters, but I am a fairly regular reader of LICD. If anyone wants to contact Sohmer, go for it - I'd offer, but it might carry more weight coming from a reader.
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
Another place you might want to consider sending emails to is Gutters. They write popular webcomics based on the comic book industry and everything associated with it. Considering this is the world's most popular superhero MMO, and it draws so much inspiration from comic books, I'm sure Ryan Sohmer would whip up something based around this game's plight. That, at least, would get some more media exposure.
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I put my two cents worth into the Valve campaign coffers.
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
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Rangle's right....this is fun.
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No. I'm not doing that at all. I'm operating under several assumptions;
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If nothing else, what the demise of CoH may spur its systems into other games. I won't be leaving CoH to play another MMO, because there isn't an MMO anything like it.
It has crossed my mind that a CoH MUD would not be too bad an idea. They cost little to run these days. Not the same experience at all, but it's a free code base. If I had time for something like that again I might look into it. I am somewhat familiar with the Forest's Edge code base. The game would be likely to only attract a very small number of players (maybe 50-100) but if someone wants to try to preserve the Pocket D aspect of the game, that might be a good way to go, on a budget.
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Mr. Newell, Im hoping you can keep City of Heroes alive. When I come home from a stressful day at work, I unwind by playing a larger than life hero. This game never fails to lift my spirits & that quality is why I have been playing it for eight years. Ive tried other games (Champions Online, DC Universe Online, Guild Wars, & Dungeons & Dragons Online) but never really felt satisfied by them. The community Ive experienced here in City of Heroes is unlike any other. And now Mr. Newell that community is hoping that you will be the larger than life hero that will save this game. |
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To elaborate on this: APB was a /subscription only/ MMO when it died, and when it was /brought back from the grave/ it was made F2P. City is /already/ F2P and successful at it.
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Originally Posted by The Havoks
To the naysayers:
Remember the story of the mmo APB. That game died extremely early after launch. Some months later another company bought it, changed the business model up a little and it's been doing well since. The company who bought ABP took a risk. *IF* a company were to buy CoH it would be a lot less risky. CoH wasn't dying. It has an extremely loyal and dedicated fanbase who will be here for a long, long looooong time to come if given the opportunity. Taking a chance on CoH would be more of a sure thing than a gamble. |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.
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Sadly i dont think if it is sold Valve will buy it, sure its worth a go and im all for giving COH any chance, it just dont seem Valves 'thing' but anything to get it out there you never know if it keeps coh in the radar someone might pop up and try to buy it.
The end is just a new beginning, Goodbye all my coh friends and even the enemies, its been a blast I will miss you all. Thank you Paragon team, you gave me a home from home I will always appriciate it.
I'm not going to pull the wings off a butterfly in front of you. But most of the speculation I've seen posted on gaming news sites, is very similar. NCsoft has a track-record of not selling rights to it's discontinued titles. They were also willing to pull the plug on a moderately successful enterprise in hopes of gaining more profits elsewhere.
NCsoft already knows how much money CoH makes and that there are 60k loyal subscribers to the game. They have no intention of selling it (and our valuable email addresses) to a competitor. It would be much more profitable to attempt to convert us into playing their other games.
Now, I'm not saying don't email Valve. If you think it might work go for it. But Valve (or anyone else) can't buy what NCsoft isn't going to sell them. And the fact that they chose to shut down a modest money maker rather than sell it, sort of tells us all they have no intention of giving 60k loyal fans to anyone else.
They want us for themselves, but they want us to play Aion and Guld Wars. :/
But hey if this works, I'll eat crow on this. So have at it!
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
If you guys are pitching for Valve to buy this game, they need a reason to buy it. Pitch the idea that they could do Workshop support for this game in the form of costume pieces that players can buy (which Valve then gets a small bit of the money from).
The 1st Message Board Warrior. m/
Sending a letter to Gaben asking him to bail us out is as silly and ineffective as sending one to Santa Claus.
That being said, I've sent mine. I hope I've been a good PC gamer this year.
The Titantic Tiberian Fiend
The idea of a CoH MUD is amusing. I used to run a local one on a BBS. I still know how to set them up, if someone really wants it.
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{City of Heroes} Please help save our World!
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It appears as if NCSoft feels that our 'Game' is nothing but that, something that people simply pop a quarter into on the weekends. In fact, we are a fairly large community that have been around for 8 years give or take an LOA. Of the many avenues that we are scrambling to investigate, many seem to believe that your company would be a good place to move our home to. If you find that inviting 125k+ people into your home is not too much, then please consider our request.
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Which is, while not hugely successful, adequately healthy for an MMO. That's not even taking its age into account. They can't all have WoW's numbers. In fact, those that do are flukes. Including WoW.
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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
Earnings suggest around 50-60K subscribers (that is breaking total earnings into $15/month subscriptions)
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Okay, I'm off to bed. Keep spreading the word and if anyone has ideas on how we could help this gain traction, let me know or even take the initiative yourself. Just remember to use your best judgement, whatever you do or don't do.
Well. They wont get those 60k. They'll be lucky to get a quarter of them, which is still a significant amount. The reason being the fact they pulled this out of nowhere So they could push us into their new games. Not everybody is a sheep.
Thus beginning the decline of their other games.
Fight The Power
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Which is, while not hugely successful, adequately healthy for an MMO. That's not even taking its age into account. They can't all have WoW's numbers. In fact, those that do are flukes. Including WoW.
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However, in my view, it is definitely low for an existing MMO with a dedicated player-base. The wonderful part of City of X, is indeed it's *dedicated* playerbase... however, that would slowly over time loose players, until it got to a point of unprofitably. Great retention ratio for the game... *once* you get players here. I am sure that we have *all* brought friends to the game, who then left the game for one reason or another... people who pop back and forth with subscriptions every so often (I am one of those people).
However, I do feel that a distinct lack of stuff to do once you hit the cap (apart from badges) was a turn off for players. I know several people who left the game because there was nothing else to do apart from "roll an alt". Not even a "carrot on a stick goose chase". Different things for different peoples to be honest.
Would it have made some kind of sense to consolidate a number of servers in the end to at least make the game appear "fuller" than it actually was? Yes... if they had a method of resolving name/SG clashes *sensibly* (this part to be honest is essential as a lot of character names are a focal part of the character).
*shrugs*
To be honest, I thought that Freedom would have brought in more money than it did. At least it slowed the decline whilst Freedom was running. If it wasn't for Freedom, I am actually *heavily* inclined to believe that City of Heroes/Paragon Studio's would have been shuttered a while ago.
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Originally Posted by Next_Spirit
Well. They wont get those 60k. They'll be lucky to get a quarter of them, which is still a significant amount. The reason being the fact they pulled this out of nowhere So they could push us into their new games. Not everybody is a sheep.
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Our email addresses are valuable marketing dollars to NCsoft. And accounts with credit card numbers already on file are even better. So yes email away but if this all goes south, don't leave your data on file with NCsoft. Remove it all.
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
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It's not the IP getting bought by another company that people are naysaying, it's the "Save us Gaben!" Valve circle jerk that is. Valve's MO is to pickup small teams from mods or inde games with potential and give the people behind them the resources to realise their potential. CoH was a moderately successful MMO with a big company behind it. It's had its time in the sun, and while it has a very passionate fanbase it's a niche title that never really had widespread long term appeal. I think one day Valve may well work on an MMO since they've been branching out recently with Dota 2 and Gabe has seemed pretty interested in them in the past, but if they did i think they would want to build it from the ground up rather than acquire an 8 year old title with limited appeal. It's fine to throw your hopes behind another company picking the title up but don't do the whole Gaben patron saint of gaming, EA literally hitler thing.|
Originally Posted by The Havoks
To the naysayers:
Remember the story of the mmo APB. That game died extremely early after launch. Some months later another company bought it, changed the business model up a little and it's been doing well since. The company who bought ABP took a risk. *IF* a company were to buy CoH it would be a lot less risky. CoH wasn't dying. It has an extremely loyal and dedicated fanbase who will be here for a long, long looooong time to come if given the opportunity. Taking a chance on CoH would be more of a sure thing than a gamble. There's hope as long as we keep hope alive. Send the e-mail to Valve. Send it to EA. Send it to anyone! Don't give up before we've even gotten started. Sure it may seem like a long shot if a small handful of people send e-mails to Gabe Newell. But if hundreds do? Thousands? Anything is possible if you try. So let's try. |
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I heard rumblings a few years ago that NCsoft were at least *planning* to do something similar to the SOE Stationpass... so whilst you might not necessarily stick with one game, you at least got access to the *other* MMO's coming from that publisher.|
Originally Posted by Next_Spirit
Well. They wont get those 60k. They'll be lucky to get a quarter of them, which is still a significant amount. The reason being the fact they pulled this out of nowhere So they could push us into their new games. Not everybody is a sheep.
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At that point in time, it made sense. You had Dungeon Runners, Lineage 2, City of Heroes and Tabula Rasa as subscription based games.
That plan never came to fruition though.
Strangely enough, i went from City of Heroes to Auto Assault, back to CoX briefly, then to TR, then back to CoX... if i had boycotted NCsoft as a result of the closure of Auto Assault... yeah. And i do know players went from Auto Assault to Tabula Rasa because of the free codes that they gave out as compensation... and stayed for the full duration of the 2nd game
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That gif is addicting >.>
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Not to Godw- Ok, to hell with it, TOTALLY Godwinning the thread and I don't care;|
Originally Posted by Solos
-but don't do the whole Gaben patron saint of gaming, EA literally hitler thing.
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Wholesale destruction? Consuming other companies indiscriminatingly? Massive marketing spin? Unethical treatment of companies and consumers? Kills off and discards said companies when bled dry? Tells everyone who doesn't like it where to shove it?
If that's NOT like a media-world Hitler, then I don't know what the hell is.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I can't tell if mine actually sent.
One thing I put in was that I would be happy to continue paying $15 a month to have the game just continue to run as is - no new development, no bug fixes - just keep it running.