Meanwhile, in the Halls of Titan...
I have to agree with the above warning, if we put all our eggs in the basket of hoping NCSoft will nicely let us keep this going, it's over. Need lots of people helping that guy code so we can get a private server up ASAP.
If this pans out across all parties involved, you have my support with a Kickstarter or similar funding campaign. Thank you for all of your hard work with Paragon Wiki and attempting to keep players in the game!
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I would be wiling to continue paying a monthly fee to keep this game alive and donate to a Kickstarter or something if you can make it work.
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
count me in too. i'll donate what $$ i can.
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I would donate to this and pay the usual subscription price because i do that now anyway. If you can get a quote and your company can do this the community will help.
-Moon Fyire
o.o you've got the kitties support! kickstarter, shredding curtains, just say the word!
>.> we might even finish up the base articles I started years ago...
I am Sleepy! Hear me Yawn!!
Veni, Vidi, Dormivi!
-Alpha Kitty of the Guardian chapter of the Legion of Catgirls
Never forget--Sleepy could conquer the world, if she could just stay awake long enough. =) -Llanwe
Reporting this; while Tony works with NCSoft if you'd like to contribute in a backup plan, read this:
http://segs.nemerle.eu/
Go to the forums and read about their progress in creating a player run server for CoH, THIS IS COH'S BEST CHANCE.
Coders are needed quickly as there is work to be done that can't be done once the servers are down.
One other thought for TonyV:
Please post updates as edits to the OPs in these threads instead of replies, that will be much easier to track.
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
Count me in for any help you might need.
Add this to your signatures to get the most views/support we can get.
Save Paragon one more time! http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index....ic,4877.0.html
Petition to end shutting down CoH:
http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
NCsoft will not make any arrangement to keep any form of City of Heroes running. It's that stark and that simple.
If this was a business decision, made on the grounds of making more money per year, then they would be open to negotiation. Selling a property is more valuable than torpedoing it. But it isn't. CoX is still profitable. Not hugely, but profit is profit. And it's not like they can 'use the talent elsewhere', as they've kicked them all out. From the standpoint of business interest, this decision is stupid.
This is an executive decision. It's based on what's best for the executives in charge, and that is not at all the same thing as what's good for the business.
Here's what's happened and what will happen.
NCsoft reported lower quarterly earnings. There are reasons for this; obvious ones. Like making a big-game title that has reported all its costs but none of its profits. But an executive has to justify themselves to a board. And if you just say 'ignore the losses, we'll make money' on a game you didn't greenlight, you don't get to take any credit.
So they've looked for a game they can justify cancelling. An old game that went F2P is a perfect target. Not because it's unprofitable, but because you can easily pretend that it was the problem. They kill the game, and talk about how they've taken decisive actiopn to save profitys. And then when the profits of the huge new game come in, they can use their action to try and take credit for the profit.
This action has been made so some executive can spin a story of their decisive action saving the company lots of money and making it even more, so they can get a higher salary in the next job. It has been made solely for this purpose. It serves no other purpose. It does nothing good for the company on any level, and in fact has cut off a small but reliable revenue stream.
And that is why they will not sell the IP.
As soon as they sell the IP, they will have to concede that it is still valuable. As soon as they sell the IP in a movement initiated by the players, they seem reactionary and foolish for having not done that themselves. If they do not torpedo the IP, it will be tantamount to admitting that their actions were those of sociopathic greed.
Executive business is the most egotistical level of industry in the world, by orders of magnitude, and would rather literally destroy itself than concede being wrong. And that is exactly what they will do here.
I've got $500 I can throw into this, or whatever project seems like it's going to work. And if you guys need extra coders, I'll freakin' learn how to make the blasted thing work.
Or at least try. The money thing i can reasonably guarantee, at any rate. Good luck Tony, and thank you.
Shut up and take my money. And as others have mentioned, I'd happily also contribute to a separate IP with familiar Devs and hero/villain themes if, as is likely, the opportunity to purchase/license the current IP isn't an option.
Save Paragon one more time! http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index....ic,4877.0.html
Petition to end shutting down CoH:
http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
Just tell me where and I'll pitch in as much as I can.
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Alecto 23 MA/Reg Scrapper
Megarea 22 Ill/Storm Controller
Gloomwave 23 Warshade
Among many others...Part of Guardian's Evolution
G Handle: @Fury. with the period sigh
So...if anyone lives near one of our server farms...
Just sayin'!
09-01-2012 00:55:38 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'll miss you little fairy. When the world starts to go dark, and we all start to fall down, I'll hold you close so that when we all die you'll be with me so you won't be lonely and we can go to heaven together and live with Jesus and ride a pony.
09-01-2012 00:56:07 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Do you think it'll hurt when we all fall down, or will it just be like going to sleep? Will we dream in that dark space, or will it just stop and end and nobody will ever remember poor Skrunchie and her fairy.
09-01-2012 00:56:19 [Broadcast] Romeric: Jesus rode dinosaurs. Everyone knows that.
09-01-2012 00:56:38 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm scared. I don't want to die.
09-01-2012 00:57:36 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm only 15. I'll never be married. I'll never had kids. I'll never graduate. I want to live, I don't want to fall down and be gone forever. WIll anyone remember Skrunchie and her fairy? Will everyone dream, and will it be good dreams?
09-01-2012 00:57:52 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: *hugs skrunchie*
09-01-2012 00:57:58 [Broadcast] Alice Carrol: I can't imagine a game living up the RP community of CoH again. I'll miss this place dearly.
09-01-2012 00:58:22 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: ALice *hug*
09-01-2012 00:58:27 [Broadcast] Dynamic Champion: *Hugs Alice*
09-01-2012 00:58:46 [Broadcast] Alice Carrol: Awww. I love all you guys. *Hugs*
09-01-2012 00:58:57 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: If we die, and it all goes dark, will we be with Jesus and ride raptors? I'm only 15, I don't wanna die, I wanna grow up and be married and have kids. Is it because I punched that Hellion? Is it because I made Baby Jesus cry? I'm sorry.
09-01-2012 01:01:38 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: How come we have to go away? I mean, why did we have to find out so far in advance? Why couldn't we have been hit by comets or eaten by SHivans? This is making my tummy hurt. I don't want to die, and end up nothing. Who will take of my fairy when I die?
09-01-2012 01:03:12 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Is it because we didn't save Statesman? I tried, I really really did. I'm just 15, I did all I could, but I just couldn't save him. Did he fly to Heaven and now we have to join him? I fought Nemesis, I really did. Does this mean we failed? Will it hurt?
09-01-2012 01:05:19 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I just wish... I just wish... I could have saved my Mommy when Galaxy City was destroyed. But I guess I'll be with her and Jesus soon.
09-01-2012 01:08:06 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: It's OK magic snowman and little fairy. We'll sit here for awhile, then go to what's left of Galaxy City where our old house was before the Shivans ate Daddy and squished Mommy's head.
09-01-2012 01:09:09 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: When we get there, we can sit on the ground where my room was, and hug each other, and just wait. Jesus will come and take us to ride raptors with him, and we won't ever get old. I hope it doesn't hurt. I hope I'll see my friends.
09-01-2012 01:11:09 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Maybe we'll find my old sock monkey in the rubble. Then we can sit where my room was and hold Mr. Monkey and each other and wait. I still wish... I still wish... I still wish I could have gotten married. I"m only 15. I won't ever have kids.
09-01-2012 01:11:11 [Broadcast] Warped One: Can i come with?
09-01-2012 01:11:19 [Broadcast] Cardinal Bishop: all we need to do is get a few million from kickstarter and we can do it ourselves! lol
09-01-2012 01:11:32 [Broadcast] Warped One: Might as well try.
09-01-2012 01:11:45 [Broadcast] Super-Joe: Yes. Kickstart the revival.
09-01-2012 01:12:11 [Broadcast] Delta Eclipse: Don't worry, Skrunchie. It will all be over soon.
09-01-2012 01:12:14 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Did you want to come with me, Warped? We can sit where my house was before the Shivans killed my Mommy and Daddy and just wait. Maybe it won't hurt to bad, and I can hold your hand.
09-01-2012 01:12:34 [Broadcast] Warped One: I wanted to go to the insane asylum with that one guy.
09-01-2012 01:12:42 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I know, Delta. I just... I just hope my Daddy wasn't right nad Jesus isn't punishing me for being a girl.
09-01-2012 01:20:55 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: ((I'm going to move to Secret World. I won a lifetime sub, the game is fun, and I can hang with my friends. But NOTHING will ever replace CoX to me))
09-01-2012 01:28:26 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Will you hold my hand when it happens, Kate? I'm little, and scared. I don't want it to hurt, and I don't want to be alone like when the Shivans destroyed my home and tore my Mommy apart. And I lost my sock monkey. WIll he be lonely? Will he cry?
09-01-2012 01:37:07 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Maybe I should go to the ruins of Galaxy City and see if Mr. Sock Monkey survived. I'll search the rubble of my old house, where Mommy was killed, and maybe Mr. Sock Monkey is still there. I don't want him to be lonely when it all ends.
09-01-2012 03:24:20 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I went back to Galaxy City, where my house was before the Shivans came and pulled my Mommy apart and destroyed our house. I dug in the rubble, and found Mr. Sock Monkey. Now, when the end comes, he won't be scared, He can hold my hand. I hope it doesn't h
09-01-2012 03:25:14 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I hope it doesn't hurt when we all fall down. I hope that we can play with Jesus and ride on dinosaurs and all be together. I don't want it to end, I want to keep fighting crime. I'm only 15, I'll never be married, I'll never have children.
09-01-2012 03:26:06 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Even if I get pregnant right now, I won't have time to feel it kick before we all fall down. I'll never be married, I'll never graduate high school. Why do I have to die? What did I do wrong? Is it because I didn't pray enough? Was I a bad girl?
09-01-2012 03:27:07 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'll just sit here with Mr. Sock Monkey and hold him till we all fall down, that way we won't be scared, and if it hurts, we can hold each other's hands.
09-01-2012 03:27:45 [Broadcast] Colonel Victory: It'll be alright Skrunchie, I'll hold you when the darkness comes.
09-01-2012 03:28:15 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: :sniff sniff: Thank you Grandpa. Will I see Mommy in Heaven too? Will it hurt a lot, dying?
09-01-2012 03:29:59 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: (( Skrunchie is the best RPer I have seen all night ))
09-01-2012 03:52:33 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Wahl? Will dying hurt? Is it OK that I'm afraid? I'm not sure if I want to be a cat-girl any more. Is it because I was a cat-girl that we all have to die? Is it something I did wrong? How come we all have to die? Will you hold my hand when it happens?
09-01-2012 03:54:23 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm only 15, Wahl? Why do I have to die too? I'm just a little girl, I didn't do anything wrong. Is Jesus mad at us? Will we go to Heaven, Wahl, or will we just die? Will it hurt, Wahl? I'm kinda scared. It isn't like when we fought Hamidon.
09-01-2012 03:59:23 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Look, Anvil, I got rid of the cat-ears and the tail! Do you think that now we'll be spared, since I'm not being a sinful cat-girl any more? And I promise I won't go out and hit things with my hammer, and I'll go to church every day, and behave myself.
09-01-2012 03:59:36 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Think we can live now? Now that I'm not a cat-girl any more?
09-01-2012 04:00:35 [Broadcast] Zevanoi: WHY
09-01-2012 04:00:36 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Because I don't want to die. I don't even want Susie to die. I want to live, I'm only 15. I want to get married and have kids. I saw people die in Praetoria, and they all cried when they died, and I don't want to die if it hurts.
09-01-2012 04:01:27 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Is it because we couldn't save Statesman? Is that why? Is Jesus punishing us because I wanted to be a cat-girl and wrote slash-fiction? Is it because I made fun of Ms. Liberty because she smells like low tide and old socks?
09-01-2012 04:02:20 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I went to my old house, where the Shivans ate my Mommy, and found Mr. Sock Monkey, so he won't be alone when he dies. I don't want Mr. Sock Monkey to be lonely when it happens.
09-01-2012 04:02:55 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Will we dream after it happens? Will we go somewhere else? Or will I just be... be... gone? Forever and ever, I'll just be gone?
09-01-2012 04:04:11 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Will we be remembered? Will anyone remember me? I'm just a 15 year old girl, why would anyone remember me? I hope I didn't this, I hope my Daddy wasn't right and God is punishing all of us because I was a cat-girl. I promise I won't do it any more.
09-01-2012 04:06:06 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Maybe if just I die God will forgive everyone? Maybe if I tell him to just take me, because I was an awful person and was a cat-girl and didn't listen to my Daddy and ran away instead of being a good girl and getting in my Punishment Box, only I'll die?
09-01-2012 04:07:03 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I wish the Shivans hadn't eaten my Mommy, that way she could hold me when we all die. I'm really scared.
09-01-2012 04:07:31 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'd like that. Having a sword, and being cool. But I don't want to die, because the people who I saw die in Galaxy City were afraid, and it hurt, and Mommy screamed when the Shivans killed her.
09-01-2012 04:08:22 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: What if it's jsut darkness, Anvil? What if there isn't anything, and we just no longer exist, and everything just goes dark? I don't want that to happen. I want to ride on dinosaurs with Jesus, and see my Mommy again, and hold Mr. Sock Monkey.
09-01-2012 04:08:53 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I don't want to die. I'm just 15.
09-01-2012 04:09:09 [Broadcast] Kleptomaniac Kat: I'm just a cat!
09-01-2012 04:09:28 [Broadcast] Master Jian Wu: You're a filthy thief!
09-01-2012 04:09:34 [Broadcast] Kleptomaniac Kat: PROVE IT MISTER
09-01-2012 04:10:01 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm sorry, God, for being a cat-girl, for writing slash-fic, for calling Susie a *****, for hitting people with my rocket-hammer, for not saving Mommy. I'm sorry, please don't punish everyone else because Daddy was right and I'm a horrible person.
09-01-2012 04:11:19 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I just wanted to help people. I just wanted to save people. I didn't mean to be a bad girl. I didn't know Daddy was right and God would punish everyone for me being a cat-girl and not getting in the Punishment Box.
09-01-2012 04:11:45 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I stopped being a cat-girl, and deleted all my slash-fic, please, don't kill everyone. I don't want Mr. Sock Monkey to die.
09-01-2012 04:14:15 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Will it hurt? Like when the Shivan tore Mommy apart and she screamed? It looked like it hurt when the Shivans killed Mommy, when those people in Praetoria died, they all cried for their mommies, but my Mommy was killed by the Shivans, who do I cry to?
09-01-2012 04:14:55 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Who will hold Mr. Sock Monkey? He'll be scared without me. Or will he die too? I don't want Mr. Sock Monkey to die, he didn't do anything wrong, he just loved me. Is that why he has to die too?
09-01-2012 04:15:26 [Broadcast] Blue Anvil: I will stand with you, Skrunchie
09-01-2012 04:15:51 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm afraid, Mythus. You're an old demi-god, does it hurt to die? Someone told me were aren't dying, we're just ceasing to exist. Does that mean that even Heaven will go away? If I go to heaven will it cease to exist too?
09-01-2012 04:16:23 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Does that mean that people in heaven die too when we all die? Will it all just go away, and nothing will be left but darkness? Or will even darkness go away, and there will just be nothing any more?
09-01-2012 04:17:16 [Broadcast] Legitimate Ape: Don't worry Skrunchie. When we all go, we'll return to the starstuff from whence we came. Screaming as we're hypercompressed into the event horizon of a million collapsing galaxies. Does that help?
09-01-2012 04:17:29 [Broadcast] Alice Carrol: Of course there will be something left. There's always heaven, and they'll remember us there. *Sniff* They'll tell stories of all the best things we did.
09-01-2012 04:17:31 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: But it won't be all right. Even the Rikti have stopped caring. My Rikti monkey asked me to go home, to be with his Monkey mommy, because even the Rikti have to die with us.
09-01-2012 04:18:20 [Broadcast] Mythus Prime: I will gather you and our friends to me, Skrunchie, and when the end comes we will all enter into the Elysian Fields. We will be safe and together away from the end.
09-01-2012 04:19:30 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Do you promise? Will it hurt to die? Will it hurt worse than when it hurt my Mommy to be torn apart by the Shivans? Will it hurt worse than it did for Statesman when he died? Is it because we couldn't save Statesman? Is it because I was a cat-girl?
09-01-2012 04:20:18 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Even Hamidon has to die. I saw the Devouring Earth crying that the Earth will die, that nothing will be left, and that there isn't any way to stop it. How come even the bunnies and baby ducks have to die?
09-01-2012 04:20:59 [Broadcast] Weedlord Bonerhitler: don't worry skrunchie
09-01-2012 04:21:04 [Broadcast] Weedlord Bonerhitler: we will fight crime in the night ward
09-01-2012 04:21:24 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Can Mr. Sock Monkey come with me? Wha about the baby ducks and bunnies, can they come with me? I don't want them to be scared.
09-01-2012 04:21:35 [Broadcast] Kolta: Jeeze, you people are depressing! Isn't anyone else gonna go to a different dimension?
09-01-2012 04:21:52 [Broadcast] Quantum Solstice: That won't be so easy.
09-01-2012 04:22:13 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: But all the Portals in Portal Corps have started going dark. I heard that the alternate realities are going dark, that they are just... gone. Nothing left. Not even darkness.
09-01-2012 04:22:58 [Broadcast] A SEX DEVIANT: i am so turned on
09-01-2012 04:23:24 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I went to Portal Corps, and they told me that it's being closer. That the nothing will reach us on November 30th. I can't even ask Santa to save us.
09-01-2012 04:25:14 [Broadcast] Shield Sister: So, uhhh... Any foxy ladies looking for some action? The world is ending, folks. Ain't gonna be anyone left to bump nasties with in the depths oblivion.
09-01-2012 04:25:15 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: But, I'm only 15. I'll never be married, I'll never have kids. Even if I got pregnant right now, I would never feel the baby kick, and it would die with me, so I can't even have a baby, or get pregnant, or it would turn into nothingness with me.
09-01-2012 04:25:41 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Oh, God, all the babies. What about them? How come they have to die? They didn't do anything wrong. We can't even save them.
09-01-2012 04:25:48 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: Well maybe that's your fault Skrunchie.
09-01-2012 04:25:49 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: *cries*
09-01-2012 04:26:00 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: Maybe you're the reason all of those babies are going to die now
09-01-2012 04:26:06 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: shut up
09-01-2012 04:26:16 [Broadcast] Opposite Reaction: Maybe they're going to... well, maybe not a /better/ place but its still a place
09-01-2012 04:26:21 [Broadcast] Opposite Reaction: A place where heroes are still needed
09-01-2012 04:26:29 [Broadcast] Kolta: There'll always be a place like that!
09-01-2012 04:26:31 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: I'm sure there's someone in this city with child right now
09-01-2012 04:26:32 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I know. My Daddy said that me being a cat-girl would make God punish everyone. I stopped being a cat-girl, maybe now he'll just take me? Maybe now he won't punish anyone else, and just kill me? I don't want the babies to die.
09-01-2012 04:27:03 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: But don't you see that because you were doing bad things, they have to die now?
09-01-2012 04:27:08 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: You did this Skrunchie
09-01-2012 04:27:18 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: no she didn't >:|
09-01-2012 04:27:19 [Broadcast] Kolta: Jeeze, don't make her feel bad...
09-01-2012 04:27:21 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: Because you were silly and didn't wannt to listen to your father
09-01-2012 04:27:24 [Broadcast] Kolta: She didn't!
09-01-2012 04:27:24 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: We all die now
09-01-2012 04:27:41 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: her father sounds like an idiot
09-01-2012 04:27:48 [Broadcast] Opposite Reaction: Well maybe you
09-01-2012 04:27:49 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: But he's right isn't he?
09-01-2012 04:27:54 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I know. I should have let him put me in the punishment box and let him do what I was supposed to. If I had done what my Daddy wanted, I'd have a baby already, and could have held it.
09-01-2012 04:27:56 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: and now he's going to die too
09-01-2012 04:28:06 [Broadcast] Quantum Solstice: ". . . ."
09-01-2012 04:28:08 [Broadcast] Opposite Reaction: ...
09-01-2012 04:28:11 [Broadcast] Quantum Solstice: "That is some dark stuff."
09-01-2012 04:28:11 [Broadcast] Opposite Reaction: Okay, I'm outta here
09-01-2012 04:28:22 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: it's not your fault
09-01-2012 04:28:27 [Broadcast] War Equitis: Awwwww yeah, the apocalypse is here and we've brought it!
09-01-2012 04:29:39 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: but why should we? We all die now because this little girl didn't listen to her dad?
09-01-2012 04:29:49 [Broadcast] Wolf Spider Gary: I say we -KILL THE LITTLE GIRL!-
09-01-2012 04:29:54 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: don't you feel terrible about that Skrunchie?
09-01-2012 04:30:04 [Broadcast] Big Bad Evil Dude: Your dad told you to do one specific thing
09-01-2012 04:34:37 [Broadcast] Weedlord Bonerhitler: two blondes walk into a building
09-01-2012 04:34:42 [Broadcast] Wolf Spider Gary: AND EVERYONE DIES
09-01-2012 04:38:36 [Broadcast] Agent Naomi: Please bookmark http://www.cityofheroesveterans.com - Stay in touch with your global friends!
09-01-2012 04:48:10 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Maybe if we dig a hole deep enough, we can hide from what's coming, and we can invite the baby ducks and baby bunnies to hide i nthe hole with us. Isn't Pocket-D another dimension? Maybe the Coming Storm won't find us here, and we can save the baby ducks!
09-01-2012 04:49:16 [Broadcast] Kolta: You guys are just so great.
09-01-2012 04:49:20 [Broadcast] Kolta: Did you know that?
09-01-2012 04:49:27 [Broadcast] Kolta: Seriously, I've been in a lot of communities
09-01-2012 04:49:35 [Broadcast] Kolta: And you guys are some of the best.
09-01-2012 04:50:43 [Broadcast] Quantum Solstice: Even though I think you people have some of the sickest fetishes and perturbed thoughts you people are still awesome!
09-01-2012 04:50:51 [Broadcast] Maestro Punkt: ((PARA))
09-01-2012 04:50:55 [Broadcast] Maestro Punkt: ((YOU DIDN'T KNOW BUT))
09-01-2012 04:51:06 [Broadcast] Maestro Punkt: ((ENGEL WAS/IS GOING TO HAVE A DAUGHTER AFTER SHE MARRIED ZEPH))
09-01-2012 04:51:11 [Broadcast] Maestro Punkt: ((MIYAKU))
09-01-2012 04:51:12 [Broadcast] Quantum Solstice: [You told me!]
09-01-2012 04:51:15 [Broadcast] Kolta:
09-01-2012 04:51:31 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: Skrunchie we are going to sve all the baby ducks and baby bunnies
09-01-2012 04:51:42 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: Every single last baby bunny and baby duck
09-01-2012 04:53:31 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Help us dig! We're going to dig a secret hole here in Pocket-D and hide the baby ducks and baby bunnies inside so the Coming Storm won't kill them all.
09-01-2012 04:54:09 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: That way at least the baby bunnies and baby ducks will survive, and we'll know that at the end, someone cared about the poor baby bunnies and duckies that didn't do anything wrong but have to die anyway.
09-01-2012 04:55:13 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Because if we did a hole in Pocket-D, which is another dimension, than maybe the Coming Storm won't see the hole, and the baby ducks and baby bunnies will survive, because the coming storm will kill us instead of them.
09-01-2012 04:57:42 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: ((I feel bad for Steelclaw. He FINALLY got a toon to 50. He's gonna kill himself))
09-01-2012 05:01:33 [Broadcast] Malithrax: PvP is never getting fixed
09-01-2012 05:01:59 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: pvp was fixed when I controlled RV singlehandedly with my stlaker on Union
09-01-2012 05:02:13 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: I remeber when they made whole teams to try hunt me
09-01-2012 05:02:25 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: And I'd pick them off one by one mmmm
09-01-2012 05:02:23 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: ((DId you guys hear? They're going to do all kinds of base updates on Dec 1st!))
09-01-2012 05:02:49 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: (( Dec 23 is the Mayan Update ))
09-01-2012 05:04:56 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm going to go in the Superbase and watch the monitor. You know, there really isn't anything happening. I saw Freakshow, and even Nemesis automatons just sitting there, saying "Why bother?"
09-01-2012 05:05:35 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: Even the DE were just sitting there, carressing a plant, and crying, saying "Not even darkness, nothing left, not even the earth."
09-01-2012 05:05:50 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I'm going to go watch the empty monitor. THe suicides will start soon.
09-01-2012 05:05:58 [Broadcast] Avatar of Akit: That's a use not covered by the warranty.
09-01-2012 05:06:05 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I think I'll volunteer to gather up the bodies of those who decide to leave early.
09-01-2012 05:06:27 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: And then on November 30th, I'll go down and watch the baby duckies, so they aren't alone and lonely and scared when it happens.
09-01-2012 05:06:31 [Broadcast] Skrunchie: I just hope it doesn't hurt.
09-01-2012 05:07:08 [Broadcast] Kate Kills: skrunchie (( you are the best RPer in the zone all night )
Interesting idea.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that NCSoft will not part with the IP, and that if CoH is to continue, it will be due to reverse-engineering and new development.
That said, since I will no longer have a subscription fee, I would be happy to offer that to your endeavor. In fact, if a largish percentage of current subscribers could be convinced to do just that, that would provide a fair amount of money.
I'm a database application programmer - not a game programmer - so I don't know how much help I would be for a reverse-engineering effort. PM me if you want to anyway.
Maybe we should call this community edition of the game "City of Titans"?
NCsoft will not make any arrangement to keep any form of City of Heroes running. It's that stark and that simple.
If this was a business decision, made on the grounds of making more money per year, then they would be open to negotiation. Selling a property is more valuable than torpedoing it. But it isn't. CoX is still profitable. Not hugely, but profit is profit. And it's not like they can 'use the talent elsewhere', as they've kicked them all out. From the standpoint of business interest, this decision is stupid. This is an executive decision. It's based on what's best for the executives in charge, and that is not at all the same thing as what's good for the business. Here's what's happened and what will happen. NCsoft reported lower quarterly earnings. There are reasons for this; obvious ones. Like making a big-game title that has reported all its costs but none of its profits. But an executive has to justify themselves to a board. And if you just say 'ignore the losses, we'll make money' on a game you didn't greenlight, you don't get to take any credit. So they've looked for a game they can justify cancelling. An old game that went F2P is a perfect target. Not because it's unprofitable, but because you can easily pretend that it was the problem. They kill the game, and talk about how they've taken decisive actiopn to save profitys. And then when the profits of the huge new game come in, they can use their action to try and take credit for the profit. This action has been made so some executive can spin a story of their decisive action saving the company lots of money and making it even more, so they can get a higher salary in the next job. It has been made solely for this purpose. It serves no other purpose. It does nothing good for the company on any level, and in fact has cut off a small but reliable revenue stream. And that is why they will not sell the IP. As soon as they sell the IP, they will have to concede that it is still valuable. As soon as they sell the IP in a movement initiated by the players, they seem reactionary and foolish for having not done that themselves. If they do not torpedo the IP, it will be tantamount to admitting that their actions were those of sociopathic greed. Executive business is the most egotistical level of industry in the world, by orders of magnitude, and would rather literally destroy itself than concede being wrong. And that is exactly what they will do here. |
This is one thing I hate about Online games. Offline games, if something happens to my disc or to a computer that was holding data, I can buy a new one, redownload the game. But when an online game goes down, thats it. I never get to play it again.
So yes. The chances are low. But that doesn't mean I won't support any effort that tries to make it happen.
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
I'm definitely interested in being part of this project in some fashion if it has legs, whether it's to assist with whatever I can spare financially or help provide story framework for a new player-created world. I'm more than a bit intrigued by the possibilities here.
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NCsoft will not make any arrangement to keep any form of City of Heroes running. It's that stark and that simple.
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To the detractors, I hear you. I'm not saying that this effort is guaranteed, or even likely. But with all due respect, I'm not going to trust the future of City of Heroes to cynicism and hearsay. If NCsoft tells me, "No, period, end of story," than I can honestly say to the community that I tried and it didn't happen.
As for the project to recreate the server, I suppose I can mention now that we at the Titan Network have been thoroughly dissecting the client and communications with the server for years, including decrypting the communication with the various game servers and even Playspan's servers. For what it's worth, the developers have done a great job in securing your data. Trust me. I checked. And we have some of the best hackers I've ever run across on our team. For what it's worth, all of this effort has been for benevolent purposes, developing client-side tools to improve your experience. We haven't done anything scummy or dangerous in our code, we have all insisted since day one that none of us would ever develop any tools to enable cheating or exploits, and we have always respected our users' privacy, never doing anything like pulling usernames, passwords, or anything like that out of the client.
These efforts are what's allowed us to develop tools such as Sentinel, which exports character data from the game into Mids format. Trust me when I say that I am not detracting from efforts to reverse engineer the server, and we are not unaware or unfamiliar with reverse engineering efforts. One of our holy grails has been to produce a working server that the client would accept as valid. Again, not for malevolent purposes, but because that's the final proof that we thoroughly understand all of the ins and outs of what's going on in the game.
But let's not kid ourselves. Reverse engineering the server in three months is going to be extremely difficult. If we haven't been able to do it in the years we've been pouring into it--not that we haven't made any progress--but we're still a long way away, then I find the prospect of being able to do it to the point of actually having something the client can run against unlikely at best.
This isn't an either/or scenario. I'm not asking anyone to support me in working to acquire the IP and software to run the game and stop wasting your time on reverse engineering efforts. Please, if you have the skill to do the latter, by all means do. But I want to explore all options, because we're on a very tight deadline. If we can work something out, that really is the path of least resistance.
Supporting my efforts with NCsoft in no way should discourage you or anyone else from supporting other alternatives to keeping the game going. They are two different kinds of support that are in no way mutually exclusive: financial and moral versus work product and elbow grease.
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
I would love to help save our city in what ever way i can
If anyone has a FB group for continuing after the servers go dark or staying together as a fan base, invite me please @ www.facebook.com/SCyberTaz.
Also if anyone has a graphical editor / map creator where you can use the pigg files to make a generated map / zone like AE and link in the character creator for solo content I'd throw a few bills at that. I mostly solo and use screen caps for the stories I'm writing so that would be nice, especially if they could include the beta content with the tested powersets, Rogue Packs, and Tech Knight gear. If someone actually gets a server running I'll spend another month in the car / storage unit and kick in a thou.
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Tony,
I am with you, you have my sword, so to speak. This game has connected me with friends I would never have had prior to it. It has been there for me through Iraq, and two divorces. My daughter plays "dress up" with the costume editor when she's here...
Now all that ends... Now the story is over...
I for one, am willing to put in on a kickstarter, sign up for a year of subscription fees at a time if need be, to give you all the money needed to either run a private server, or too get the IP outright.
CoH is a proven IP and a proven commodity, I think with a kickstarter as seed money you might even get a bank to back you on it as a start up business.
Best of Luck and if I don't catch you here again... I hope to see the fruits of your labor...
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Not enough Evil...
I take it back NC SOFT is enough evil for anyone...
*Snags that siggy*
You have my support, and what meager funds I can offer. My six-month sub cycle renewed the ninth.
That's not gonna be going to NCsoft anymore...
Tony, you might want to (have to) look at indiegogo.com as a possible crowdfunding source.
Kickstarter has some pecularities in it regarding what it will allow to be crowdfunded.
It's more of a 'we fund your creation' idea, and since you're trying to fund the purchase of something that's already built...they might say no. Not saying that they will, but it's worth looking at indiegogo as well.
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