Meanwhile, in the Halls of Titan...

No. Those sorts of things are generally never discussed out in the open while any sort of negotiations are actively going on.

We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.

Originally Posted by ShadowNate ;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!

So why are you supporting someone who used the closure of the game we know and love to take a jab at a bunch of people who he/she/it hates and has trolled for ages (Union RPers)? Because that is EXACTLY what you are doing. The posts were 'polite' until they very blatantly weren't. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Succinct!

Lately I'm adhering to an old proverb: if you're not manning an oar, get the hell off this boat!

Even something like "We have no new news.", "Due to NDA we are unable to give you an update." or "No progress, but we are still trying." would be a boost.

The silence is a little demoralizing.

Yep!
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And... sometimes... it requires effort, people. It is worth it. Make the effort to change things towards the way you wish them to be. The amount of time for the efforts are momentary... but the satisfaction and fulfillment of having truly made those efforts (win or lose) are long lasting.

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If I'm not mistaken Tony and a few others are very quietly (for good reason) working on this as the last resort plan, so maybe they'd know more about it. I believe one server could more than handle what will be left of the population after all this is said and done.

I hope I'm right that it's being worked on, this has been my soapbox since the announcement; a pirate server is the only way CoH will live on in at least some way. I hope I'm wrong, but I do sincerely hope some work is being done on this front.

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Explain how my argument against vitriol turned into support for the person at whom the vitriol was directed. Cite specific text references. Make no inferences and do not read between the lines; interpret only the words exactly as typed.

I'll save you the trouble. The two are unrelated.

A = Argument against unnecessary vitriol and disrespect.
B = Support for the aggressor in any single incident of disrespect in a conversation.
C = Support for the victim in any single incident of disrespect in a conversation.

B and C are interchangeable at any point in any conversation except when one conversant is entirely above such petty exchanges. Support of either B or C would then invalidate A. I make it a habit not to be invalidated. Use logic and reason instead of anger and emotion.

Second hurdle. Explain how support of one person's point or argument turns into support for that person. Same rules apply as the first test. Same end result. The two are unrelated. I already stated I don't care if KK is or is not a troll. The same applies to you. I don't care if you are or are not a troll.

Read my reply to Arctic Princess again. The whole thing, not just the one single line that you can form a flawed argument against. If you still think there is a reason to debate whether a personal attack can ever -- ever -- be justified, feel free to PM me. We can even get into a discussion about exclusivity, its pros and cons. Be respectful. Be civil. Don't insult. Don't be offended if I don't respond immediately. I hardly check the CoH boards since this thread fell so far from its topic and its message of hope.

(Side note: I really think there was a misunderstanding between you and KK. She used the phrase "lying scumbags" after quoting a conversation with EU Roleplayers. You interpreted that as her calling EU Roleplayers lying scumbags. I interpreted it as her calling NCSoft, the subject in the quoted conversation, lying scumbags. My interpretation assumes less malicious intent and causes less strife. Your interpretation (if I'm correct) requires you to insert words (namely, identifying information) into her post that she didn't type, then get offended at those words you inserted and blame her because you inserted words into her post. In short, you fabricated an insult against yourself and took offense to your own insult. Strife loves this kind of thing.)

*YAWN* Bored now. Not relevant to saving City of Heroes. Nobody's going to budge either way. Drop it and move along.

To be fair, that was my first post that strayed completely away from the topic. My previous posts included the argument that ostracizing parts of the community is not good for the community. They also included the assertion that outright disrespect and rudeness are not good for the community. People who don't know the history between this apparently infamous KillerKitty and some subset of players and who don't care about that history -- like myself -- may easily wander into this thread hoping to find that beacon of hope... and stumble over a horrid attack steeped in blind rage that discourages them and turns them away.

Techbot Alpha tried to make the claim that I was somehow supporting this person by insisting that his personal attack on her was unnecessary and inappropriate. Protesting an action against a person does not mean supporting that person or all their actions. Did I need to raise my defense on the forums? No, but based on conversations I've seen with people that hate this KK, I can't trust that initiating a discussion by PM would not be met with accusations of harassment. So, I invite him to continue by PM if he is so inclined.

Anyway, you're right, and I'm done. And so very, very disgusted with the whole lot (unfairly, by association, and the apathy shown by this caring community toward such an attack).

Anyone that tries to go further will get the same and if they don't stop a lawsuit. The property has a value and NCsoft has to protect it's rights to it.

KillerKitty.

1) Union Roleplayers isn't in some way "out to get you" or some sort of cliquish elitist channel. It serves a different purpose to the Roleplayers channel, and when you were asked to stop trying to persuade people to actively leave URP to join the Roleplayers channel, you not only refused, but you went out of your way to use the channel's player list for recruitment purposes. That was rude. But you couldn't accept that. So you take every opportunity to continue what comes across as a crusade anywhere you can. Also rude.

That is what put many people on URP off joining the Roleplayers channel.

2) You do not have the singular "one true way" to save CoH. There are many avenues being explored. If you can contribute, fine. But if all you're going to do is tell people how wrong they are to try any means available, there's no point in you entering the discussion. Seriously. No point at all, since all it does is add clutter to an already complex situation.

3) Be respectful. You come across as supremely arrogant, both here and in-game. There's no need to take a massive dump all over other people just because (as far as I can tell) they are not immediately acknowledging your opinion as the gospel truth.

So, please, stop your silly childish crusade to make the residents of the URP channel out to be some sort of demons. Stop pointlessly trying to refute every idea that people explore to try to save CoH. Stop spouting useless "facts" which are nothing of the sort.

We're trying to make a difference, here. You've failed to think outside the box.

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And I find it hilarious that the only two links in that enormous post of yours that actually work are you circle-jerking with someone else and a description of how to use chat channels.

I did not realize you guys had put up such a nicely consolidated site... LOVE IT .... bookmarked.

In talking to one of my "non-gamer" friends, she made this comment, "Of all the MMO's I looked into a little while ago, CoH was the one I most seriously considered picking up." I'm kinda sad she didn't, but maybe if it can be saved...

Her 3 year old daughter is completely enamored with The Hulk.
"What do you wanna be for Halloween, Missy?"
"The Hulk!!"
"Do you mean She-Hulk?"
"NO! THE Hulk"

How fun would it be for Mom (& Auntie) to play superheros with her daughter?
As I've said before, though my expectations are not high, I'm holding onto a sliver of hope.

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Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson