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Quote:Or maybe what "utter bullcrap" consists of is looking at the revenue numbers for the past two years, realizing there should have been two major positive events, and thinking that the game was doing well.The forumites.
They were wrong when it would have mattered
They are wrong now.
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The game needs the backend support our game had.
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But we were doing so well Quote:The game is healthy for an 8 year old MMO Quote:The game was having a resurgence Quote:That's what happens in every MMO -
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Quote:Looks like I did blow his mind, and more than a few of the bits and pieces leaked out.Now where would they get that idea from? Perhaps from forum accounts created AFTER the shutdown notice that have been used for nothing but pathetic trolling attempts with every single post made since the account was created? (*cough PPCGunner cough*)
Surely such a thing would never occur.
Einstein, heres a little something for you. They own these boards. They have all the tools to do whatever they want with them and the right to do whatever they want with them. If they wanted to astroturf they could just take inactive accounts and use them or create accounts with whatever post count they want them to have.
If they cared at all what was going on here they could just shut down the forums -
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The new owners would have to make a really good case that they would do a better job. Even that, would only get a $200-$300 sub out of me.
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Citation f'ing needed ? Look the hell up.
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Quote:I just call em like I see em.Yeah... and we should all have so much faith in your (or pretty much anyone's) ability to judge other people based on a text medium. At least Fan and I have been arguing for years, literally. Forgive me if I don't assume Johnny-come-lately knows what he's talking about, especially when he refuses to say anything quantitative.
(By the way, want to expand on the correlation between writing the abridged version of war and peace and being insecure? I bet it'll be fascinating.)
Trust me, if I was insecure, I wouldn't be jumping with both feet into stuff like the threads I've linked here. Or this one.
So, are you going to just stick to the sound bites, or are you actually going to try and make some defensible arguments about why I was factually wrong in that old thread, or even in this thread. Repeating that I was wrong every third post or so doesn't make it true. So far this is more like one of those "no, you" arguments that my kid cousins get into than an actual argument. You don't happen to be 12 years old, do you?
You're the one who thought your argument with fan was some sort of monumental achievement and blew up when told you both look like dorks. -
Quote:I laughed in real life thanks.Tenacious? Bored? Business as usual?
Ah, and door number three wins again.
I'd just like to point out, PPC, that you have at this point passed arguing about the argument, and are now arguing about the argument that was about the argument.
Welcome to the forums. Ever play a Scrapper?
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Quote:That is why you just wrote the abridged version of war and peace, to defend yourself to a random guy on the internet ? Stubborn ? more like insecure.Simple: I'm not doing that. I think your accusations are ridiculous. You think my eyes are planks. I know my eyes just are unfamiliar to you.
Of course, if that's sawdust in your eyes, I also think you ought to get checked for termites.
People often confuse dogged responses with high emotions. It's silly. I'm not mad. I'm just stubborn. -
Quote:Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?VIP access to the forums, $0-30 prior to Sept 19.
Seeing a self-professed forum dodger being the very thing they purport to hate: priceless.
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Quote:Unh hunh. I think you have defined yourself pretty well in this thread.Hardly. I may attack other posters arguments, but I believe I am very good about not attacking the poster unless they start making it personal. Of course, some posters have a hard time separating the idea of someone attacking their argument from that of someone attacking them personally.
I've pointed out how your very early forays into this thread involved rather passive-aggressive ad hominem attacks on other posters. I notice you haven't responded to that in the least.
There's a whole lot of burden of proof missing here. For me to own up to being wrong, someone needs to offer something that at least makes it look like that might be the case. So far, you have made only one specific claim to try and make such a case about anything I've said, and it was trivially shot down. Try harder. -
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Quote:Oh I got it, without your opinion they would suffer in ignorance, and if they don't get it fast enough why should you be polite ?Being a jackass comes into play based on what you argue, how you go about it, and sometimes when. I don't run around the forums picking fights: I only respond when I think someone is saying something that's both (factually) wrong and (IMO) important to correct.
Sometimes I think it's important to correct things because it will help the person making the incorrect statement. I usually make special efforts to be polite when offering corrections in this case, though on the rare occasion I am attacked in response despite that politeness, I may not always be polite any further.
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You seem to feel that being confrontational at all is the hallmark of a jackass. That's your prerogative, but it's not a view I will ever share. -
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Quote:Why would you put anyone on ignore unless they were spamming ?FWIW (and I am assuming that isn't much), I have three forum users on ignore. One was put there very recently (post-announcement trolling), another has been there a few months to maybe a year.
Another_Fan was the first user I ignored, and has been the list for a few years following any number of posts tilting at blasters, the market, etc.
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Quote:Yeah, tell it to someone a little more gullible and didn't see you post deceptive pictures of what pricing was like.I wonder where you learned what they're like?
- Where do PVP IOs appear in that sentence?
- If you add PVP IOs to that sentence it references two ways to get them:
- Hero/Villain Merits
- Drops
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Quote:I can spot a jackass when I see one.
You're ignorant. Literally. You don't know me, clearly. The vast majority of my posts on these forums over the years have been to help people with game mechanical information. I have a particular enmity with A_F, (which sprung largely from that thread) and I find it instructive that you judge everything based on my interactions with him.
Quote:Is this one of those things where you expect that you're "blowing my mind"?
My best RL friend plays this game, and has been farming like that for ... ever. These days he uses, I kid you not, 12 accounts to do it with. (Well, he did, he stopped after the announcement.) So yeah, I know how that works, and have all along. Guess what? That ability of players like him to farm them has always been baked into the market prices. Do you know when the prices on the high-end ones crashed, and finally dipped under the 1-2B mark? When converters came out, and allowed the massive stockpiles of low-value PvPOs those farmers all had created to be converted into the valuable ones. -
Quote:When I said I stayed away from the forums, I was thinking of you. Not specifically you but the general you. An internet dweeb with a bunch of Beavis and Butthead clones that they hung out with. I read your thread I see you beating up someone, nerd fan comes into point out you don't know what you're talking about, and you aren't man enough to admit it.My tactics have never changed, but they never had anything to do with what you seem to claim. I state things, and when they're challenged, I defend them.
Here's my statement that you latched onto with all the same pedantic asininity that you used to break out the forth and fifth dictionary definitions of "failure" above.
Readers should bear in mind that this discussion was posted during I18, so the only way to get purples was as drops or with Hero/Villain Merits.
Days later, after the main thread discussion had actually died down, you wandered into the thread and start arguing with the quote above because you were able to show that some Stealth IOs had been bought at prices that exceeded the price of some of the cheapest purples.
As I seem to recall, you are some sort of teacher of literature, and yet you cannot understand how indescribably, pointlessly pedantic this was. For someone with such a background (if I remember correctly) you suck at communication. Everyone in that thread, even the person with whom I was debating when I posted it, understood exactly what I meant and did not object to it. You came in after the debate was over and started a new one strictly based on semantics. In the resulting debate, you threw up Venn diagrams that proved nothing and you quoted market facts that ultimately blew up in your face. You were wrong, everyone there knew you were wrong, and you still couldn't let it go.
No, you couldn't possibly be wrong. The other people in that thread disagreed with you because they were my "fan club". Yeah, because I've always had such a big following.
Anyone who wants can read the thread from the link in the quote above. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine whether or not you live in your own little world of logic and meaning. I will say that this post summarizes the whole thing rather nicely, though.
And I must say I did very much enjoy making this post.
Everywhere in this game you had cheerful helpful people, on the forums you had wannabe devs and kissups.
Just for fun and because it looks like you can't take being wrong. During I18 you could get pvp IOs by afk farming for them. That's how I did it, and you couldn't give away the Targeted area effect pieces or the non proc point blank area effect pieces.