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Actually, if the movie posters are to be believed, the Grifter is the one female on the team.
Which makes the correct Grifter text choices all the more weird.


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"My character wouldn't do that," in this instance, is about as odd a thing to say as being disappointed to find out Mark Hamill can't actually use the Force.
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Which makes the correct Grifter text choices all the more weird.
Hey, it's the 21st Century.


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No doubt. But unfortunately we have no way of knowing how long this will be. Will it be right after the event or two years from now. But these procs are game-changers for a number of builds. I've never bought into the idea that you're 'forced' to do anything for a reward. No one is making me do this terrible event over and over other than me.

But I still don't like it because this particular IO has been requested for many years and introducing it in this way just seems like they want to annoy us.
Its becoming especially unfun, because the percieved easiest/fastest victory is with a taunter Brute/tank and -regener cor/def/cont/mm

If you dont get both of these, people tend to drop team.

Im starting to think that way too.


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Originally Posted by Doc_Reverend View Post
Hey, it's the 21st Century.
I know - but there are no clues given that your target might be interested in other women, so the correct flirt-crass remark-even crasser remark sequence is totally left field.


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Originally Posted by corinna View Post
Perfect Grifter.

This is a misstep. And a pretty misogynistic one, at that. I hope I missed an alternative for getting the badge.
While I don't agree with it being misogynistic at all, there IS another way to get the badge.

All that's required is that the person running the Grifter does things right. Everyone on the team will earn it, not just that player. I've gotten all 4 Perfect badges on one run before.

Play any of the other roles, and hope that the person playing the Grifter makes the right choices. If they do, you get the badge.


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I know - but there are no clues given that your target might be interested in other women, so the correct flirt-crass remark-even crasser remark sequence is totally left field.
Not really. If you're trying to distract and derail someone, you don't go with the normal stuff they should be ready for. You throw them the unexpected.


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While I don't agree with it being misogynistic at all, there IS another way to get the badge.

All that's required is that the person running the Grifter does things right. Everyone on the team will earn it, not just that player. I've gotten all 4 Perfect badges on one run before.

Play any of the other roles, and hope that the person playing the Grifter makes the right choices. If they do, you get the badge.
/this.

Did it on my blaster, as mentioned. One run. I was the hacker. Have all four badgers.


 

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Correct. But I genuinely hope no one is crazy enough to use this as a KD proc. I suspect these will be going for 300M+ when they are able to be put on the market.
<speculates>

With all the gating, I see them going much higher than 300M. At least for the buy it now over the first few days we're able to market them.

At least as high as the purple costume drop for the first 48 hours, i.e. we'll see many bids at around 1 billion.


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I have now run this on all 18 of my toons that are eligible to do it.

Casino Heist:

Fun. Its fun because it breaks from the normal mission content and has objectives that require you to think. The AV fights in the WH kinda throw me off because I don't get why they happen. All it says is that we were followed back to our hide out. Something should be done to spice these sections up.

Would love to see an iTrial version of this that has two teams split into groups with two players each on their own objectives.


Time Gladiator:

Is a fun beat em up smack em down. The ninja and monkey sections are the only bland part. Would rather see them spawn at all 4 gates and run into the middle (I.E. Gladiator chariot fight.)


IO set:

I don't like the pressadent that is being set by this IO prock that converts KB into KD it suggests that the Devs are unwilling to tackle the KB problem in a wider context, which is disappointing.

My totals if anyone cairs

End/Rec 1
Dam/End/Rec 8
KB->KD 3 (all locked at L50 slot able at 47)
Acc/Dam/End/Rec 1
Acc/Dam/End 4
Acc/Dam 1


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I'm leveling my ill/storm so I hit 20 get PA and sleet and hit the que. First run I get the proc. I think it's a sign.


 

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I love the entire event.


 

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I love the entire event.
Its not a great set once you hit 50

The only thing in the set worth it for a 50 is -kb if you have a kb power thats problematic


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Yawwwwn.

Tried them, saw the useless exemping and randomness of the -kb IO, not impressed.

Next.


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I love the entire event.
Me too - it also completes the set of events for the 4 seasons.


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Its becoming especially unfun, because the percieved easiest/fastest victory is with a taunter Brute/tank and -regener cor/def/cont/mm

If you dont get both of these, people tend to drop team.

Im starting to think that way too.

I have played all of my toons twice now... and no one has dropped from the team on purpose (did have a DC.. that came back).

Might I suggest you use the star system for these people who obviously have no clue that any team can do this.

My last run was a blaster (arch/dev), pvp scrap (spines/regen), me (fire/time corr), and a PB..... maybe I just have better luck?


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I have now run this on all 18 of my toons that are eligible to do it.

Casino Heist:

Fun. Its fun because it breaks from the normal mission content and has objectives that require you to think. The AV fights in the WH kinda throw me off because I don't get why they happen. All it says is that we were followed back to our hide out. Something should be done to spice these sections up.

Would love to see an iTrial version of this that has two teams split into groups with two players each on their own objectives.


Time Gladiator:

Is a fun beat em up smack em down. The ninja and monkey sections are the only bland part. Would rather see them spawn at all 4 gates and run into the middle (I.E. Gladiator chariot fight.)


IO set:

I don't like the pressadent that is being set by this IO prock that converts KB into KD it suggests that the Devs are unwilling to tackle the KB problem in a wider context, which is disappointing.

My totals if anyone cairs

End/Rec 1
Dam/End/Rec 8
KB->KD 3 (all locked at L50 slot able at 47)
Acc/Dam/End/Rec 1
Acc/Dam/End 4
Acc/Dam 1
The devs can't tackle a "kb problem" because there is no kb problem. The only kb problems I see are:
Players who have no clue how to use KB... easily remedied by teaching them.
Players who supposedly refuse to allow others who use KB... never ran into this but easily remedied by 1 starring and not teaming with them.

Neither of those things can be fixed by the devs....

You can't fix stupid.


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This may be a discussion for another time and forum, but the above quote speaks volumes about your judgement and tolerance.
Her judgment and tolerance where in question well before she made that statement.

What is weird, is being a gay male as the grifter...

Playing a character who... is playing a female... who's hitting on a girl. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it, but it's funny.



 

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I have played all of my toons twice now... and no one has dropped from the team on purpose (did have a DC.. that came back).

Might I suggest you use the star system for these people who obviously have no clue that any team can do this.

My last run was a blaster (arch/dev), pvp scrap (spines/regen), me (fire/time corr), and a PB..... maybe I just have better luck?
You do need some amount of -regen or god thing and sylvia can be really problematic and slow.

and its not that it cant be done, its just that it takes twice or three times as long and its faster to drop and get a new team.

And you cant star them because, by the time you know that its a problem they left.


Boycott Ncsoft if they close down Coh.

 

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The devs can't tackle a "kb problem" because there is no kb problem. The only kb problems I see are:
Players who have no clue how to use KB... easily remedied by teaching them.
Players who supposedly refuse to allow others who use KB... never ran into this but easily remedied by 1 starring and not teaming with them.

Neither of those things can be fixed by the devs....

You can't fix stupid.
Yes there is a KB problem because not using a main attack because its too situational does not make you a good player, it makes you a bad player for choosing a set that you cant use your attack and you have subpar dps.

Kinetic melee is a prime example, its only got 2 aoe and 1 is so highly situational that its almost never used, occasionally it can be used to push mobs but most of the time it just sits idle in someones tray, thats NOT good play.

Changing it to KD makes the entire power and powerset MUCH MUCH MUCH more effective even for a good player.


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The devs can't tackle a "kb problem" because there is no kb problem. The only kb problems I see are:
Players who have no clue how to use KB... easily remedied by teaching them.
Players who supposedly refuse to allow others who use KB... never ran into this but easily remedied by 1 starring and not teaming with them.

Neither of those things can be fixed by the devs....

You can't fix stupid.

You can. The KB problem is with player perception.

This can be fixed by making mobs that are faster to defeat when spread out than when they're bunched up.


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You can. The KB problem is with player perception.

This can be fixed by making mobs that are faster to defeat when spread out than when they're bunched up.
Thats a non starter.....

if they are required mobs people will complain that they dont have KB, if they are optional, people will just avoid them because they are suboptimal...


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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven View Post
Her judgment and tolerance where in question well before she made that statement.

What is weird, is being a gay male as the grifter...

Playing a character who... is playing a female... who's hitting on a girl. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it, but it's funny.
I think most of everyone is missin' the point. You're not actually flirting with her. The point of the grifter was stated to stop her from gettin' to her location. Think of it this way, you're on your way to your office and some person stops to have a chat with you, then they start trying to flirt with you when you turn them down they start makin' some really nasty remarks. You get pretty ticked off and storm off and forget what you were doing. Thus the grifter regardless of sexual orientation has done their job by throwing the mark off.


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Ya, I know. And the typical male player gets to play this content more-or-less in-line with his world view (setting aside the distasteful need to say something crass) to get the rewarded outcome (and let's face it, to avoid letting down the team), and the typical female player must overcome her worldview in order to get the same reward. Not good.

The neutral option (pretending to be a regulator) is conceptually just as valid for being a grifter, but in my playthroughs didn't seem to work as a distraction. Again, maybe I'm overlooking something, which, again, would moot my objection. I'll have to play it again to see be extra careful.

Let us look at this from a calm cool rational point of view. Your character is playing a role in a movie and the script calls for the character to flirt with and then insult another actor in order to prompt the correct series of actions to move along the plot. If you refuse to say your lines or keep trying to change them after the director has chastised you .. you may find yourself fired and replaced [this is what can and does happen in the real world unless your a super star. way too many other actors available for a director to put up with crap from anyone].

Ok now lets look at it from the "I am you team mate and want to help" point of view. Each part in this mini movie requires whoever selects it to perform in a certain way.. the result if done properly is a badge (ooooooo its pretty) the RESULT if all 4 of you do things the proper way and get all 4 badges is an accolade badge (once again unless your a badger . Ooooooo that's shiny) and 5 reward merits. No I am NOT talking about one of the options you get at the end on the small reward table I am talking about an additional 5 reward merits that are awarded for getting the accolade. I know it doesn't sound like a lot but the whole event can take less than 30 minutes to complete and if you get the accolade and take the end reward of 5 merits you pick up 13 reward merits in 25 minutes or so. It takes about 45- 1 hour to do a Posi 1 TF and that awards 11.

If it upsets you so badly having to click flirt, then click say something crass and then click say something even crasser .... Pick another job. Is there another way to succeed? Frankly I doubt it and remember your on a timer with about 120 seconds to complete all assigned tasks. I doubt anyone will hate you forever but for myself I would feel bad if I goofed around knowing full well how to succeed and cost my team mates any sort of reward.

Edit note: opps sorry I originally said the accolade paid out 8 merits. Just finished one with my Brute and its 5


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