DC plans to out a prominent character

Imagine the story possibilities if it turns out to be Lex and how that would change his motivations for being Superman's nemesis. Maybe he doesn't hate Superman just because he's jealous of his power but maybe he hates Superman because he's secretly in love with him but knows Superman will never return his affections.

That'd take so much of the Smallville fanfic to a new level of hawtness

Someone already has - in the comic book Irredeemable.

Actually the Valentines event was pretty much all relationship stuff, even if several were played for laughed. Seemed like a perfect time, but of course nothing came of it.

I'd peg Vanessa DeVore as Bi, if not pansexual. Mother Mayhem too.

Mako or Scirocco wouldn't surprise me. They've got female lieutenants but neither seems on that level of interest, though Scirocco clearly cares for Mistral in a Master/pupil sort of way. Malaise might have been too.

Frankly I can't really think of any prominent Hero characters that don't already have love interests or were married, etc. Well, Valkyrie, yeah.

I was mostly just running down the lines of previous examples that would have been an organic development of previous indicators, though after making that post I did a little research and had to scratch a few off. Conner, for instance, is completely out (of the running, not the closet) as the new Superboy is....very different (also, while I like seeing Fairchild again, I'm kinda depressed by what they did to Rose). Harley similarly has been almost completely altered from her previous self and is thus an unlikely example.

Steph and Cass are currently in post-Flashpoint limbo, to my knowledge. Conner has his own book, as mentioned above. So do Diana and Bats. Tim's shown up in the Titans as Red Robin still. Harley's in the Suicide Squad currently (less said the better). Ivy's currently in the Birds of Prey, as is Dinah, with Babs having left leading them to be Batgirl again. Booster's in the new JLI book, while Ted Kord's still in post-Flashpoint limbo. Last we saw, he was still dead as of the end of Brightest Day, and there was a hint of a new Beetle wearing a red version of Ted's costume and gear.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville You're right: this whole issue is a money grab. We're going to be grabbing money from impatient people with money to burn and completionist complexes, and using it to make a better game for everyone, including the 99.9% of the rest of the playerbase that isn't going to be buying everything, multiple times, immediately upon release, and spending hundreds of dollars in the process.

Yeah it doesn't really surprise me someone's already done something like this. Since it just took me a few seconds to think of it in response to that post it's probably a pretty obvious "what if" Superman/Lex scenario given the circumstances.

Vanessa....yeah. Given everything said about the Carnival's "parties" and the fact they were using Cupid's Arrow for aphrodisiac properties and the like. Then there's her backstory, specifically this part here:

Vanessa being interested in men as well wouldn't surprise me given the Carnival's hedonistic overtones, but I think she's as close to confirmed as bisexual as they can get away with.

Mother Mayhem, meanwhile, is more vague, I think. Before First Ward, I would've looked very, very carefully at the fact that all the Seers were female. But First Ward did confirm there are male Seers, even if most of them apparently didn't make it through the operation to become full Seers.

Then there's the fact that when inhabiting the body of someone said to be one of her closest confidantes, she dresses up like...that.

Mayhem falls under the "wouldn't surprise me, but can't say for certain" category, I think.

Mako strikes me as asexual, mostly because I don't think anything in the way of normal human drives still sticks around with him. We see him get excited about the rush of the kill and potentially getting to tear other people apart, or the power of the Leviathan when it was in his grasp, but he's never really reacted to anyone, male or female, in an attracted way.

Scirocco, meanwhile, has his longstanding courtship of Ghost Widow in his corner, however doomed it may be. Admittedly, it'd make the perfect "beard" as it were, because Scirocco would genuinely care about redeeming her even if he never really wanted her in a sexual manner, but given his rather flowery language around her and the fact that everyone seems to be able to see it in Arachnos but Ghost Widow, I think we can confirm that he would very much like to tap that.

If I had to guess, I'd take a look at Dominatrix for much the same reasons that I looked at DeVore. Her "parties" are regarded as rather extreme, and in the pre-GR content, her personal faction consisted of male *and* female models using the rather gimp-suit like Eidolon models modified slightly.

That said, there's still the canon Sally/Lusca as of the Valentine tips...

Originally Posted by Arcanaville You're right: this whole issue is a money grab. We're going to be grabbing money from impatient people with money to burn and completionist complexes, and using it to make a better game for everyone, including the 99.9% of the rest of the playerbase that isn't going to be buying everything, multiple times, immediately upon release, and spending hundreds of dollars in the process.

It's 106 miles to Grandville, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing faceless helmets

... Hit it ...

Serpent Drummer is my Boyfriend, and he and Silver Cyclone will live happily ever after.





anyway, I'm hoping for Tim Drake or the new GL. and as someone involved in the gay community, we have to look at it positively because we dont get things like this often. and yeah it is soooo obviously a pub stunt, but it's still better than nothing. DC has a lot of catching up to do in this regard compared to Marvel and it's dozens of LGBTQIA folks. there are a LOT of queer comic followers, and most of them can totally see what it is just as much as any other comic follower. and the difference between marvel and DC's characters is writing.

and folks who say "what does LGBTQIA mean?! i didnt know there were so many letters!"... that's why, even though it's a stunt and just some hooplah, it's still a step forward.

i really loved him, and wish we'd see more of him.

Not that I know of.

However, at least one forumite is championing Serpent Drummer as a gay character. Personally, so little is know about him that it wouldn't be a bad choice, IMO.

[Edit: Looks like the forumite in question has beat me to this point. As far as LGBTQIA? I'm gay, and I find that to be entirely too many letters! The L and G are redundant (just for different genders)]

They're just starting to re-introduce the Justice Society; I'll bet it's someone there. James Robinson is writing that as well, and he's know for LGBT-friendly stories.

So yes, it's a publicity stunt, but as someone pointed out, Batwoman was also a publicity stunt and it's a great book. Hopefully this will be good as well.

omg i've been heard! ^_^

i think you and i should be friends!

I always felt like Fusionette was flirting with my female characters...

Hmmm... A Romp with Fusionette - KB'd into the headboards again...

She might be trying something different after she found out about Faultline and Statesman.

Positron and Numina seem to be doing ok, and Kadabra and Sigil are still going strong - and several other minor NPCs have partners and children.

If you save them.

Nylonus
Midnox
Alexandros
Mere Ward
Philotoketes
Cactus Jim

So yes most of my characters.

I could see Synapse being a gay character in City of. . . I mean he is not even looking at Mynx.

You're right about Kadabra and Sigil. Positron and Numina seems like a forced decision, though - I don't recall even running across it mentioned or implied in-game that they're a couple, despite it being official lore.

I think Synapse is straight. It's just that, when he gets excited or worked up, his super speed kicks in, and he got really tired of the "done already?" problem.

But seriously, I would think that Synapse gets all freaked out by people touching him, after those experiments he went through. When human contact triggers PTSD, it pretty much kills your sex life.

I could easily see Mako being gay or bi, but any partner of his would have to be able to take a lot of abuse. I'd love to see a storyline where one of the other Patrons finds out that he has a /Regen hero boyfriend on the side, and you have to save the poor guy from Arachnos. Maybe even protect him from Mako so that it looks like Mako wants the guy dead, so it can't be his boyfriend after all.

I'd guess Silver Mantis is bi, too. We know what turns her on, and it's not gender specific.

Well...there was that bit of text in her bio a while back that hinted at...happenings...with Tyrant.

I think the devs want us to forget that she "served Tyrant in all ways" (iirc the wording).

Then they shouldn't have dropped another hint in her personal story arc in I22

You're right of course.

My porblem with it though, is it seems like it's going to be an already established character, and one who never showed any signs of the change.

Now, they can easily say "it's a new universe, so he's different in this universe" but then if people don't treat it like they treated new Starfire (since it's a new universe, so she's different in this universe") and don't give it flak like they do with Starfire, it would just be wrong.

well... pretty much all of the big name characters have changed drastically. this one might be the smallest change depending on who it is... wondy has a whole new backstory and look, as does superman. batman to a lesser extent, but those are the big three and a large portion of who and what they used to be was completely retconned... thanks to the new 52. i'd be much more upset about those things if i were you, as the long time established characters and histories were written anew. so im not sure what you mean but "never showed any signs of the change", especially if it's a character not yet introduced into the new 52, but is potentially an expanding of a story from before that was never really explored in depth. i'm hoping they have someone in mind who was before, a little ambiguous, or already hinted at.

but as for changes out of the blue... clark without lois was the worst thing for me to handle, but i dont have much of a choice really, as i'm not one of their writers. and they were soul-mates... depending on how this new "outing" is handled, and depending on which character, it could flow pretty easily, and still be something trivial compared to other changes in this new 52. i agree starfire was a drastic change... made by... men... O_o... but this doesn't necessarily have to be poorly done.

let's wait a month to see who it is and how its handled.