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Just out of curiosity, how do you, as an individual, feel about buying new powersets even though you're a VIP member? I'm not taking sides here, nor will I support either one. I'm simply curious as to how the general community feels about this. Is it justified?


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Just out of curiosity, how do you, as an individual, feel about buying new powersets even though you're a VIP member? I'm not taking sides here, nor will I support either one. I'm simply curious as to how the general community feels about this. Is it justified?
I have seen more and better powers released since freedom than I did all the time before. I as a V.I.P. am all about buying them if it will continue this trend.


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I don't have any problem with it. Games have been selling expansion content for decades, this is no different. It's just instead of buying a whole expansion like Going Rogue, you're buying stuff piecemeal.


 

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If we weren't paying for power sets then you'd be looking at Street Justice and Beam Rifle coming in the new box set expansion maybe due out this Summer, and staff and titan weapons and beast mastery and darkness control would be cool ideas that maybe they could do someday.

How I see it at least.



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Games have been selling expansion content for decades, this is no different. It's just instead of buying a whole expansion like Going Rogue, you're buying stuff piecemeal.
There's one difference i can think of...the price for the amount of content if it were a boxed expansion versus piecemeal at the mtx shop. Though, GR might not be a good example since when it launched, there were complaints that it was a bit light on content compared to other games' expansions.


 

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It was clear to everybody they'd be nickel-and-diming us with Freedom. That was the whole point. Far as I'm concerned, though, as long as we're getting quality products that are worth the money, I don't mind being nickel-and-dimed. You get what you pay for, I suppose.


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If I wasn't okay with it, I wouldn't buy it. An additional benefit to being a VIP subscriber is that I can always hop onto the BETA server and test things to see if I like the powerset or not, so it's not even like I'm making blind purchases either.


 

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I subscribe for a year I end up with enough free points to buy 6 powersets. Did we even average one new powerset a year before Freedom?


 

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I haven't spent any money after Freedom launched beyond my monthly fee, and I have several new power sets to play with. I think it's certainly justified.


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We're getting new powersets a lot more often than we used to. I don't mind paying for them as long as they are high quality. Many of them have been, but a few have been disappointing.


 

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I haven't spent any money after Freedom launched beyond my monthly fee, and I have several new power sets to play with. I think it's certainly justified.
We have a winner! Technically, as a VIP, you *don't* have to pay for the new sets... so long as you can wait on occasion.


 

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I have seen more and better powers released since freedom than I did all the time before. I as a V.I.P. am all about buying them if it will continue this trend.

I'll just say "this"....

I haven't paid for anything extra yet....just saving and using my 550 points a month.


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Let's see, from the game's launch in 2004 until the change to the hybrid model, we got 6 free power sets (well two for me, since four were before my time):

Archery, Trick Arrow, Sonic Resonance, Sonic Blast, Dual Blades, and Willpower. If you wanted to play with Electric Melee and Electric Shields, you had to buy City of Villains and play a brute (or stalker when it was proliferated to them). It was eventually made free when everyone got CoV for free. Was I upset? Not really. You had to buy Going Rogue to get Dual Pistols, Demon Summoning, Kinetic Melee, or Electric Control. So in total, in 7 years, we got 12 new power sets, of which half were free and the other half required a purchase.

Now let's look from October, 2011 when Freedom launched until now (a mere 7 months:

We've had four free powersets for VIPs (Time Manipulation, Darkness Control, Darkness Assault, Darkness Affinity) and four paid for power sets (Titan Weapons, Beam Rifle, Street Justice, Beast Mastery). Look at that, the very same ratio as before, but look at the amount of powersets. In less than a year, we've had three-fourths the amount of new powersets than we've (some of you that is) had in 7 years.


 

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Let's see, from the game's launch in 2004 until the change to the hybrid model, we got 6 free power sets (well two for me, since four were before my time):

Archery, Trick Arrow, Sonic Resonance, Sonic Blast, Dual Blades, and Willpower. If you wanted to play with Electric Melee and Electric Shields, you had to buy City of Villains and play a brute (or stalker when it was proliferated to them). It was eventually made free when everyone got CoV for free. Was I upset? Not really. You had to buy Going Rogue to get Dual Pistols, Demon Summoning, Kinetic Melee, or Electric Control. So in total, in 7 years, we got 12 new power sets, of which half were free and the other half required a purchase.

Now let's look from October, 2011 when Freedom launched until now (a mere 7 months:

We've had four free powersets for VIPs (Time Manipulation, Darkness Control, Darkness Assault, Darkness Affinity) and four paid for power sets (Titan Weapons, Beam Rifle, Street Justice, Beast Mastery). Look at that, the very same ratio as before, but look at the amount of powersets. In less than a year, we've had three-fourths the amount of new powersets than we've (some of you that is) had in 7 years.

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I think we're getting a decent balance of "Free for VIP" and "Everyone pays." (even if it's with "free" points.)

Only issue is that VIPs can't "buy" free sets to have them available if they go premium (such as when they're on sale.)


 

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Is it justified? Yes, it is justified for a for profit company to charge for the products they produce.

I feel good about them providing more powersets for free to VIP players. In reference to the for pay powersets the only one I am going to pay for is Staff Fighting, with two months worth of VIP points.

I enjoyed STJ a bit on BETA, but not enough to buy it. If I get an STJ itch I can scratch it on BETA.

It's all good.

Now if they would just RELEASE THE KRAKEN all would be better.


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Just out of curiosity, how do you, as an individual, feel about buying new powersets even though you're a VIP member? I'm not taking sides here, nor will I support either one. I'm simply curious as to how the general community feels about this. Is it justified?
Yep, perfectly fine. Especially considering the amount of coding work that was needed for this one in particular. And the rate at which we're getting new power sets these days as a result of some being for purchase only is well worth it.




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Now if they would just RELEASE THE KRAKEN all would be better.
The Kraken was released during the original Beta.

It spawns fairly regularly in Perez Park. It used to spawn less often, but they fixed those problems.

EDIT: We even have a badge for defeating it.


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The Kraken was released during the original Beta.

It spawns fairly regularly in Perez Park. It used to spawn less often, but they fixed those problems.

EDIT: We even have a badge for defeating it.
Oh I am sorry...that is my inside joke with Ghost Falcon.


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Oh I am sorry...that is my inside joke with Ghost Falcon.
I've seen it before.

I just wanted to finally be able to put my twist on it without it being a day late.


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I am delighted that they let us choose what we want to pay for rather than paying for whatever they dream up.

I just wish I could get a few thousand paragon points and never touch incarnate content


 

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Since at least my perception so far is that I've also recieved about the same number of "free" ViP powers that I would have expected during the same time span prior to Freedom, and the price point of the purchase only sets is not unreasonably high, I have no issue. It feels sort of like buying a vaguely overpriced expansion "City of Other Wierd Stuff" in stages.


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Originally Posted by Diggaroo View Post
Just out of curiosity, how do you, as an individual, feel about buying new powersets even though you're a VIP member? I'm not taking sides here, nor will I support either one. I'm simply curious as to how the general community feels about this. Is it justified?
I have two point five VIP accounts if you include my friend that doesn't play much but stays subbed because I do.

Completely fine with it; I haven't bought every set release (skipping Beast Mastery and skipped Street Justice on one account) and the sets they are putting out are pretty nifty so...


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