Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 11/1/11

I have to agree with this statement. While I think the pack is way overpriced (as is most everything in the store) the fact that it is released the day after Halloween, and a day before the Holiday Event is scheduled to end shows incredibly poor business decisions by the CoH Marketing Department.

Peebles' Wedding Band is good.

Without the Undead Slaying Axe?

Seriously?

Only if Atlantis wasn't anywhere near the Atlantic Ocean

Not a thing.

I just have a female character who'd look good in a pilgrim hat, and the way the costume people work around here it would end up being made a male-only costume piece if the they also had a bonnet (Which would, in turn, be made female-only, of course-).

I'd prefer to avoid that. <_<

Some people will have a use for sutff that other people won't have a use for

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

I think you and I have different definitions of genius. However, I do agree with your point regarding the likeliness of having a power set of costume bundle each week.

I will definitely pass on this item. No chance of a purchase here. I can't imagine too many people wanting it. I'm assuming Paragon will never reveal how well their various items sell; heck, we can't even get a straight answer when we ask who the lead dev is these days.

Perhaps Paragon could poll the players to vote for types of items they would prefer to see. Have a pop up appear when you log in directing you to the site to vote.

just remember...i ant those tanker archtype sets.if you keep waiting to place them out...your gonna be too late...with uncharted 3 and batman arkham city out ive already cancelled my vip and partly its because the things i know you have and the things i want are taking too long.

id step it up with the "weekly" stuff right quick..your losing more money..i just gave someone else over 120 dollars i would have spent for the sets and staff.*shrugs* oh well.....now if youll excuse me..i got some lvling to do on uc3

There's a fixed release schedule - they're not going to change it just for one person

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Let me know when they figure out how to sell fun.

Give them time... give them time...

"New with i25, CoH:Sims Edition! Collect 'fun tokens' to increase your character's happiness level! Don't forget to use the bathroom from time to time! And be sure to wash your hands! Enjoy fine dining at 'Sparky's Bar and Grille!' Don't let your hero or villain go out on the town on an empty stomach!"

But yea... you're right, people play for fun. But the way I see it, the more you can buy in the store without having to do the pre-reqs in game, the less incentive there is to do it.

As always, YMMV and that's just my opinion.

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I just will never understand this perspective.

Didn't they try to sell a whole pack of "superheroes having fun" emotes awhile back...?

My social anxieties prevent me from enjoying parties, so that doesn't count. <.<

That's okay. Everyone has different views - that just happens to be mine.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just questioning whether or not the choice to put unlockable temps in the store is a good idea.

I think it's a safe assumption that most people like to do the least amount of work for the most amount of reward.

The devs spent the time and effort to put certain arcs, rewards, goodies, etc in game. If they're made available from day 1 of a hero's career there's less of a reason to run the content in game, especially with the focus lately being on Incarnate content.

Do I want to spend time weeding through lower arcs or level as quickly as I can to get the big shiny?

Anyway, as I said, YMMV.

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I assume that's what bothering a lot of people about it. Personally I'll never spend points on any consumable item. I never liked consumable items in any game, I rarely use inspirations and heck even when playing Titan Quest I often died rather than using a health potion.

However, I realise that many people may spend points on consumables, so I don't have a problem with them been in the store.

As long as they don't market them in a such a way to try and trick people into the purchase without realising they are limited consumables, or worst, include then a deal with non-consumables just to jack up the price.

In this case I don't see any issues.

I know. I understand what you are saying, I just don't "get it". I'm not trying to persuade you. For me, it's frustrating that things like temp powers and costume emotes are locked behind missions and inventions and you have to unlock them on a per-character basis. I would prefer everything to be upfront when I design a character.

I paid to unlock capes at level 1 rather than wait until level 20, because I feel that many of my characters are "incomplete" at character generation and the ability to think of a concept and create it in the character generator is one of the big appeals for this game for me.

I don't really see playing this game as work, at at least I feel that I shouldn't. Its nice to get rewarded for mission arcs and things like that, but ultimately playing the game itself should be rewarding and fun. One of the better ways that City of Heroes achieves this is by having players decide which content to run and which not to. If all I want is the "reward" (a costume piece or temp power I probably should have anyway based on my heroic concept), I shouldn't have to run content I don't care about or waste time buying/selling at Wentworths in order to get that piece for my character.

It's nice that I have an alternative way of skipping some of the more tedious aspects of the game so I can focus on playing my heroes and running his story. Why should my roman-themed hero have to go to Rome and fight killer Romans before he can have his proper costume? Why should he have to wait 20 levels before the costume creator will let me make the character I want?

That being said, I was never very interested in the idea of temporary powers to begin with so this bundle doesn't interest me. Maybe some sort of "rechargeable" but not one that simply goes away until you invent/purchase it again. Plus the powers themselves aren't very spectacular or impressive.

If the game provides a means of getting for free what others choose to pay for, that seems like the ideal balanced hybrid model to me. If the pricing was right, I might even consider purchasing enhancements as a preference to "wasting time" building them.

But its not like "oh, well now that I've bought this I don't need to play anymore". If I don't feel the driving need to work anymore, that's probably a good thing because I'd rather by playing.

Plus availability is different from acquisition. Even if every reward was available on the Market, having choices between choosing which to purchase and which you're willing to earn can only improve the game.

That's my perspective. I'm not saying I don't respect yours, too, and I know a lot of people share it, but I just can't relate to it. I'm very much in favor of the idea of the paragon market (if not its pricing) making locked content easier to access.

I'd be in favor of them selling, for example, the Atlas Medallion badge. For those willing to buy it, it would cut out an annoying repetitive task from the building of their characters and help them focus only on their missions or other things they like about the game. For those unwilling or unable to spend money in the Paragon Market, they can invest a bit of time into unlocking the benefit the same as they've always been able to.

Would I run the Atlas Medallion errands if a simple purchase from the market meant I wouldn't have to? Probably not. And I don't regard that as a bad thing. Would I run the Zombie Apocalypse if I already had the benefit unlocked? I probably would, because fighting zombies is fun, especially when teamed up with others during a holiday event. It comes down to being able to customize your game experience, which is awesome for a game with so many players that embraces so many different genres and interests.

In the end, I expect Incarnates will be their compromise. They'll likely use the Paragon Market to eventually make everything available except Incarnate stuff, which you'll have to earn.

But we'll see. It's an interesting time to live in Paragon City.