Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 11/1/11
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Posted on: 2011-11-01 10:10 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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I actually don't think this pack was a "bad" idea in and of itself. I just think it's a little too expensive and very poorly timed. What's the point of having a holiday themed item go up for sale the day -after- the holiday in question? |
Originally Posted by Arachnion
It's only causing drama because people have expectations of good things appearing on the market.
That's my take on the matter. |
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Originally Posted by CaptainMoodswing
Lol, this board will make drama out of anything. Something has to go up every single week. If you don't like it, say meh and move on. It is not an "insult" to offer you something you don't want.
This does indeed seem lackluster and a complete waste, but I don't care. Not gonna buy it, just wait for something else. |
I'm justifying this by guessing that most or all of the devs are busy getting i21 Special Update ready for launch, since I'm thinking we'll see that within the next 2 weeks or so. Until then, I'm going to be glad for another reason not to have to spend my stipend.
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<facepalm> Metaphor uncomprehended, guess I'll wash my hands of this now before this gets out of... um, hand.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think I'd prefer to be a lion or a panther rather than a leopard, if I had to choose
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Even against certain death, it matters not how or if we fight, only that we do.
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Well im sorry to say you will not be able to choose...you are unfortunately stuck being a primate like the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think I'd prefer to be a lion or a panther rather than a leopard, if I had to choose
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New item every week means variety. Some weeks you'll like what we're putting up and some weeks you won't. We accept this, and will watch the sales of said items and react accordingly.
There's no magic formula that's guaranteed to make us produce a universally loved item each and every week, hell some people even poo pooed Street Justice.
To each their own.
It's a learning process and we're going to toss some weekly specials on the market that are going resonate really strongly with the Community, and some that will not.
Great thing is, next Tuesday is only a week away.
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(OSX) Leopard is no longer compatible with City. Snow Leopard or Lion is better. I have no idea if that was the reference, but it amuses me.
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Originally Posted by RavenSoul
<facepalm> Metaphor uncomprehended, guess I'll wash my hands of this now before this gets out of... um, hand.
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That's nice - I like cats, but I prefer humans |
Originally Posted by StarCrusader
Well im sorry to say you will not be able to choose...you are unfortunately stuck being a primate like the rest of us.
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There isn't one that I can see. Perhaps their was a hiccup in implementation that dropped it's release back two weeks. But as for what you said earlier and this post as well, yeah, this was a possibly great idea a day late and a dollar short.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I actually don't think this pack was a "bad" idea in and of itself. I just think it's a little too expensive and very poorly timed. What's the point of having a holiday themed item go up for sale the day -after- the holiday in question?
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IE: had it been released two weeks ago alongside the Halloween copstume pack this MIGHT have been better, had it also been on sale even a little for the Halloween event, it WOULD have been better.
Now, it's timing and pricing make it less than stellar. As I've said before I don't expect each week to be a home-run, but I DO hope each week isn't a strike-out, either.
EDIT @ Zwill: Hey, cool, you guys are doing pretty much what I guessed. While this may sound self-centered, that was pretty reassuring to hear that I was right. Groovy. Lookin' forward to 11 8 11 then.
Even against certain death, it matters not how or if we fight, only that we do.
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"She gives my ex-wife a run for the money."
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Well, I guess this should please the people who were moaning about how there was so much awesome stuff being released every week that VIPs were being forced to buy millions of PPs.
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I have a little question.
This morning (in france) Titan Weapon was availabe at the player creation, but impossible to buy on the market (as street justice last month).
Is there a probelm with titan weapon and the problem server today? And it's the reason that there is just a new item in the market today?
U can tell us, we can keep a secret 
PS : everyone was hoping titan weapon today
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Well speak for yourself because this is insulting my intelligence. This joke of a pack is way overpriced and is marketed for a event that ends in a day...
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Originally Posted by CaptainMoodswing
Lol, this board will make drama out of anything. Something has to go up every single week. If you don't like it, say meh and move on. It is not an "insult" to offer you something you don't want. .
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Not me , I was hoping wolf pet or gunslinger costume pack
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Originally Posted by Okario_
PS : everyone was hoping titan weapon today |
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OK, 40% off consumables counts as a markdown. (That begs the question of whether or not the consumables are fairly priced to begin with, but the invisible hand of the market will presumably sort that out eventually.) Still, the absence of any other item, even a discount on a previously available item or two, nudges this Featured Items thread further in the "disappointment" category. At the very least, this is an all-or-nothing announcement, which isn't good betting odds.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Total Value: 680 pts
Discount 280 pts en toto. |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Great thing is, next Tuesday is only a week away.
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OK, I am glad I kept reading. This makes a lot more sense. Mind you, this is still not something I would buy, but at least the pricing is less horrifying with the full list of bundled products and their prices shown. It's unfortunate that it wasn't better timed with Halloween, as the theme seems odd. If you'd* put it on sale last week that would have been more thematically reasonable, IMO.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Unfortunately the original post neglected a few other items that are included in this pack. This has since been corrected.
The *complete* Undead Survival Pack includes: Precise Dual Inspiration (Large) x5 - (normally 300 pts) Revival Temporary Power (5 charges) - (normally 200 pts) Warwolf Whistle (5 charges) - (normally 80 pts) Holy Shotgun Shells (75 charges) - (normally 80 pts) St. Louis Slammer (30 charges) - (normally 20 pts) Total Value: 680 pts Discount 280 pts en toto. All of these items are available for purchase on the Paragon Market ala carte. |
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Pretty much my thoughts. Would of been cool to of seen this last week, to be honest.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I actually don't think this pack was a "bad" idea in and of itself. I just think it's a little too expensive and very poorly timed. What's the point of having a holiday themed item go up for sale the day -after- the holiday in question?
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Thank you for the time...
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If people are indeed seeing Titan Weapons available this morning but not for purchase, then...
Perhaps next week?
Hmmm..
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Do people even buy these things?
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Precise Dual Inspiration (Large) x5 - (normally 300 pts)
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Oh thank god. Adding a few token inspirations suddenly makes it all worth while. |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Unfortunately the original post neglected a few other items that are included in this pack. This has since been corrected.
The *complete* Undead Survival Pack includes: Precise Dual Inspiration (Large) x5 - (normally 300 pts) Revival Temporary Power (5 charges) - (normally 200 pts) Warwolf Whistle (5 charges) - (normally 80 pts) Holy Shotgun Shells (75 charges) - (normally 80 pts) St. Louis Slammer (30 charges) - (normally 20 pts) Total Value: 680 pts Discount 280 pts en toto. All of these items are available for purchase on the Paragon Market ala carte. |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
New item every week means variety. Some weeks you'll like what we're putting up and some weeks you won't. We accept this, and will watch the sales of said items and react accordingly.
There's no magic formula that's guaranteed to make us produce a universally loved item each and every week, hell some people even poo pooed Street Justice. To each their own. It's a learning process and we're going to toss some weekly specials on the market that are going resonate really strongly with the Community, and some that will not. Great thing is, next Tuesday is only a week away. |
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Who said human?
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
That's nice - I like cats, but I prefer humans
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It's becoming apparent that there simply aren't enough items in the store at this time to have a weekly featured item. Might I suggest changing the weekly featured item to a bi-weekly or even monthly feature at this point in the Paragon Market's development?
It's not as if you have leftover stock piling up in the back; there is no need to push undesirable items so heavily.
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Originally Posted by RavenSoul
Little off topic here, but I believe it's been said around here somewhere that Titan Weapons won't be the next Powerset to be released, from what I've heard the next one is 'one we know nothing about'. What HAS been said is that Titan WILL be out this year (the '4th Quarter 2011' comment from PAX / SDCC).
Sorry, but if all that is true, you might have a longer wait than either you or I want for TW. Me, I'm hoping there's an impervium statue of Statesman as a weapon option, still. I'll keep mentioning that as long as I'm waiting for it in the hopes that it'll get added... Raven. |
TW is in the current Live build. Not just "enabled" yet.
It was available as a selectable power set this morning (6:45 AM CST). It behaved the same way as Street Justice did before it was enabled. It allowed you to click on the cart icon then it went to an "UNKNOWN SKU" error via the character creator.
What I suspect happened was, the alterations Synapse made to the set last week (renaming and such) have not been brought over to the Live. And since today's patch really didn't do much, except fix some of the cosmetic issues we were having with weapon sets (including Titan Weapons), I assume it'll be corrected in time for next week's patch.
I mean, we've only got three more Tuesdays before Thanksgiving and one of those will be the Pilgrim hat. Hopefully not just the Pilgrim hat, but with stuff like this week, I wouldn't be surprised.
"I saw my advantage and took it. That's what heroes do." - Homer Simpson.
You all realize, I assume, that just because you are not the target market of this item, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be a featured item...
It'd have been better if last week's item, and this week's item were swapped though.
( If it had a chainsaw power, I'd totally buy it. )
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Then again, had Paragon offered this in time for the Halloween event, they would have been open to the charge of "Pay to Win" sales.|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
A "learning process?" Is it difficult to understand the concepts of "before" and "after?" As in, "release the Undead Survival Pack before the undead invade," instead of "release the Undead Survival Pack after the undead invade."
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Here's hoping they learn that consumable sales are ultimately not as good business as costume pieces (the special monster costumes were great).
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Originally Posted by terrible_deli
I mean, we've only got three more Tuesdays before Thanksgiving and one of those will be the Pilgrim hat. Hopefully not just the Pilgrim hat, but with stuff like this week, I wouldn't be surprised.
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