You hit me! Picard never hit me!
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Posted on: 2011-10-03 22:32 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Goodbye, I guess.
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Deep Space Nine? Isn't that kinda the red-headed step-child of Star Trek shows?
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That sounds more like Voyager, or possibly Enterprise to me. DS9 was pretty awesome... after Sisko shaved his head.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Deep Space Nine? Isn't that kinda the red-headed step-child of Star Trek shows?
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Deep Space Nine? Isn't that kinda the red-headed step-child of Star Trek shows?
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Yes, assuming you mean the overall series story arc was interesting and compelling, for a change.
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One could argue that it's actually the red-headed step-child of Babylon 5 (since DS9 didn't happen until a few years -after- JMS pitched his idea for Babylon 5 to Paramount as a possible TNG spin-off) but at the very least it's better than Voyager. |
Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Deep Space Nine? Isn't that kinda the red-headed step-child of Star Trek shows?
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The premiere was one of the best openings to any Star Trek series, IMO.
We get to meet some scattered members of the Federation - people we know are eventually going to go on and do important things, but when we meet them they haven't really, yet. This is emphasized by Picard and company passing through, contrasting the 'cream of the crop' with these unknown/undefined characters. That contrast is what helped hook me at first.
Then, the raw anger of Sisko towards Picard for Wolf 359 was... still is, just so compelling. It added layers to both of the characters that was so meaningful. (As a story arc, I really enjoy watching in order the STNG Wolf 359 eps, then Picard's visit home to his family shortly afterwards, followed by the Sisko-Picard encounter at the start of DS9.)
Wrap it all up with the baseball discussion between Sisko and "the Prophets" re: time and peoples place in it... magnificent.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Deep Space Nine? Isn't that kinda the red-headed step-child of Star Trek shows?
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Deep Space Nine is the Babylon 5 rippoff. *ducks and hides*
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I remember that scene never rang true to me. Q, being Q, should have vaporized Sisko for that.
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Originally Posted by BlueBattler
I remember that scene never rang true to me. Q, being Q, should have vaporized Sisko for that.
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I can't remember the exact quote..
"And for us this is the end of all stories, and we can mostly say they lived happily ever after. But for them it was the beginning of the real story. All there life in this world and all there adventures in Narnia had only be the cover and the title page: now at last they were beginning Chapter One of The Great Story which no one on earth has ever read: which goes on forever: in which every chapter is better than the one before" - C.S Lewis, The Last Battle.
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Seemed in character to me. Q was feeling exceptionally playful and wanted to see how much further he could push Sisko.
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Originally Posted by BlueBattler
I remember that scene never rang true to me. Q, being Q, should have vaporized Sisko for that.
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Goodbye, I guess.
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That, plus let's face it: I don't think that Q had ever been decked by anyone before, so it may have been a novel sensation to him, plus of course the fact that he was comparing Sisko to Picard. |
Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
Seemed in character to me. Q was feeling exceptionally playful and wanted to see how much further he could push Sisko.
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Also in response to the thread title: "I'm not Picard!"
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Babylon 5 >TOS/TNG >DS9 >Enterprise >Star Trek Reboot movie >Voyager|
Originally Posted by Lothic
One could argue that it's actually the red-headed step-child of Babylon 5 (since DS9 didn't happen until a few years -after- JMS pitched his idea for Babylon 5 to Paramount as a possible TNG spin-off) but at the very least it's better than Voyager.
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Babylon 5 forever!
If JMS could do a series or some movies about Babylon 4 and Valen, that would be cool. Granted we might need someone new in the role of Valen, but that's ok as time has passed and Michael O'Hare may be too old to redo the part.
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"No, you're much easier to provoke."
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Also in response to the thread title: "I'm not Picard!"
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well between power rangers now, i gonna have to make time for ds9 now. awesome series. a lot better than enterprise imo.
enterprise kinda ruined the ST universe to me
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OMG, Now I just rolled 4 alts with the new sets, all under lv20 and you're saying DS9 is streaming????
Well now I know what the entirety of my free time is gonna be: watching DS9 or playing CoX
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Oddly enough I just finished watching Q-less about a half hour ago. But yea, I'd been waiting for October to roll around and DS9 to start streaming since August I believe. October took freaking long enough.
Also, even though B5 > DS9 I still do loves me some DS9.
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DS9 is one of the few cases where the remake is better than the original.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
One could argue that it's actually the red-headed step-child of Babylon 5 (since DS9 didn't happen until a few years -after- JMS pitched his idea for Babylon 5 to Paramount as a possible TNG spin-off)
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That may make him perfect for the role, depending how long a into the future after Valen traveled back the series of movies took place. You would imagine his biggest contribution to the Minbari society would be in his later years. |
Originally Posted by Nericus
If JMS could do a series or some movies about Babylon 4 and Valen, that would be cool. Granted we might need someone new in the role of Valen, but that's ok as time has passed and Michael O'Hare may be too old to redo the part.
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Even if he helped fend off the shadows at that point quickly, it's very likely the beef of such story would be how he redefined Mimbari heritage, something that likely took long to do and was in being acted uppon until the final day of his life.
Mind you, I only seen the TV show and don't know if there are any books covering that timeline.
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My understanding (and darn I read a lot of points of view on this, but never that one) is that he pitched Babylon 5 as an entirely independent thing, not related to Star Trek at all. Perhaps it was that reason that they rejected him, who knows. But he did leave them a "bible" that covered a basic story skeleton plus a pilot script and more fleshed out info on Season 1. |
Originally Posted by Lothic
One could argue that it's actually the red-headed step-child of Babylon 5 (since DS9 didn't happen until a few years -after- JMS pitched his idea for Babylon 5 to Paramount as a possible TNG spin-off) but at the very least it's better than Voyager.
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This is why the pilot episodes for each show have so many paralels. Although Straczynski claims to have evidence to all of this, he never filed a lawsuit because he knew it would be too costly and harmful to the fans (as both shows would had likely stalled.) [this explination I got from some old Usenet posts from that time]. In fact, it seemed [assumption] he just went out of his way to explain this because too many DS9 fans were calling his show the ripoff, and he wanted to at least make these geeks aware of the "real" reason behind the shows similarities.
I beg to differ with those snubbing Voyager. I loved that show, in fact thought it was the best of the Star Trek Series. IMnotsoHO DS9 was Star Trek's attempt to bring in a more modern audience hungry for more violence. Hated DS9 for that almost as much as I disliked Enterprise. But that's just me.
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It has happened, finally. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is now available on Netflix! Woohoo!
Note that I can just say Netflix now without having to differentiate between streaming and DVDs. That's cool.