Credit for all the downtime

Hint: This game is run by Paragon Studios. Sure they are owned by NCSoft, but they WON'T be making the decision as to whether we get compensation for such a "trivial" problem such as this or not. *shrugs*

Actually it's run by NCSoft, why do you think it takes so long for the Dev's to reveal anything? Everything has to be double checked with NCSoft.

Don't think you understand what owned means. Paragon will have no say in compensation, NCSoft has the money. Paragon can only suggest to their bosses.

Sorry. I'm going to pull the "I have a life" card. I have other games I can play, I have things to make, chores to do. I can easily fill those 30 hours with just as rewarding things as playing the game. I didn't even notice one of those downtimes, because the game is not the only thing I spend my time on, and I'm not even employed at the moment. And also, most of the downtimes have been in 12+ hour blocks of time, no? So you mean to tell me in those 12+ hours you would have played every single hour? Because otherwise your arguments for how long each downtime took are pretty silly. Most people play an hour or two, and then get off. So that "30+ hours" turns into "I was inconvenienced for about 2-4 hours of my time, if that but I demand FULL compensation for how long the entire downtime was, even if I didn't use the time". Please tell me you can understand why that sounds silly.

This is a company, not a magical fairy land where nothing goes wrong. It's just like every other company. I'm not going to storm a grocery store I pay a membership fee to and demand money back for being closed 6-8 hours every night (or more) because it's not available for me to shop in, thus 'wasting' my membership money. I either wait, or shop elsewhere. And yes, it is applicable. Brick and mortar stores close to restock and revamp. Employees need time off. They are doing the online equivalent. This is the single most ridiculous reason for wanting a compensation I have ever heard of, and I've worked in customer service for over 10 years, so that's a whole lot of dumb reasons I can remember.

It's a dollar because that's what two days are worth. That's the end of the story. If it's $15 dollars a month, and months average out to about 30 days, that's .50 a day. So yes, your time in game is worth a dollar. So yes, the 'proper compensation' for your 'troubles'* is a dollar. Just because you're paid more at your job doesn't make your free time worth anything.

*Oh first world troubles, will you ever get old?

Just because the marketing of this game is tied at the hip between Paragon Studios and NCSoft doesn't mean the folks over in South Korea are going to care if we get compensated for a few hours of downtime here or there.

Besides this latest downtime is just now happening as we speak - who's to say you won't get your precious dollar or extra day of game play after all. Take a breath and relax...

Entitlement whining lol.

I actually saw someone do that once. The convenience store next to where I used to work sells some grocery items. A lady before me at the register goes to the clerk "The supermarket across town sells these cans of tuna for 99cents. Why are you charging $2.50? I will only pay 99cents for them."

I was literally standing there with my jaw dropped. I couldn't believe the nerve of that lady. I was ready to say "Well, then you should get in your car, spend $5 dollars in gas and waste another 20 minutes of your day getting your canned tuna for 99cents."

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Um...wow. Feel entitled much?

Do you throw as much of a fit when your burger has something on it you didn't order?

I would suggest that you compensate the company for all those extra days that you've played for free. You know, all those months that you paid for 30 days and got 31 instead? The company is entitled to that compensation you know.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I just want to point out that it is pretty darn likely that the folks over in Korea keep a VERY close eye on any expenditures by the US wing of their company (and not just because it's the law). And rest assured, Paragon Studios does not decide whether we get compensated or not, that is the money-holders in the US NCsoft, who are overseen and overruled by the money-holders in the Korean NCsoft.

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That sounds good, but can't help feeling like we are beta testing the system for the free players. Really should be the other way round.

Dude, that's exactly what we...


Ohhhhhhh.

Slow on the news are we?

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Are you absolutely sure about this? I was sure that only the Preatorians in iTrials have that value of base accuracy.

Now, tohit buffs seem to be common enough amongst some of the enemy groups, particularly Resistance, but I am very sure their base accuracy is not any higher than normal.

I demand a cheese sandwich in compensation. It has literally NOTHING to do with your post but I demand one anyway. Take that!

Next you'll tell me you're a lady from a foreign country who saw my avatar and read my profile, and now you've become enamored with me and can't wait until you can finally meet me so we can begin our lives together. Oh, and you also need my bank account information for reasons that aren't entirely clear.

Well, I simply noticed they seemed to be nastier than Primal mobs, until I noticed one of Arcana's posts on it. If I'm wrong, I blame that. I did check the combat logs a few times and notice higher than normal numbers, however.

Tip DE apparently 'suffer' (i.e. make us suffer) from the same thing, hving 65% base instead of 50%.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Ye can take me cheese when ya pry it from me cold, dead haaaaands!!

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Well, I won't argue that Praetorian enemy groups are more difficult than the garden variety Skulls, Outcasts and Mooks we fight on the Primal side.

I'm just sure it's not due to base tohit values. I ninja-edited my previous post to mention that some goldside groups (Resistance comes to mind) do have +tohit powers.

DE doesn't show in tip missions until the high level ones when we have the powers to deal with them anyway. I won't complain here since the softcap is so easy to reach. It's inconsistent with other groups, yes, but I think the proper correction would be to bring the others up.

I think low level Praetorian mobs have a whole host of problems, even if they didn't/don't have different toHit values.But that's a whole other topic.


Really, really disagree with the second part. Just because it CAN be easy to softcap...well, 'easy' if you consider 'millions of Inf on the market and specific, defence heavy builds' to be easy. Which I for one do not, nor do I believe that should EVER be considered the norm in a game such as this. Standard DE can give my level 47 Invul Tank problems enough as it is in large numbers WITHOUT 65% base acc (story arcs with a friend proved that)
65% base AND Quartz eminators mean that the mobs are pretty much all hitting nearly every time. That's enough to chew up Tanks and Brutes, let alone squishies and SR toons. I do not see that as balanced or, more importantly, fun.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

And I'll just point out that you're making the case for why it'll be even LESS likely that we'll get compensated for this downtime.

If we could say for certainty that the only people who were in charge of deciding if we get compensated for this were the US NCsoft / Paragon Studios offices then that'd be one thing. But what you're suggesting is that not only do the US folks have to be willing to authorize it but also that the Korean management has to sign off on it too. That's TWO layers of management not just one, and as we all know the more "management" gets involved with things like this the more likely they DON'T happen.

I accept the fact that other NCsoft run MMOs have provided compensation in the past. All I'm suggesting is that there's no real point in getting your hopes up over this situation especially considering the EXTRA layer of bureaucracy it'd have to go through to get approved.

If it happens, great. But I'm certainly not going to assume anything until it does.