Credit for all the downtime
Yes. But even if I wasn't then there would always be -some- time I could play, even if that was at my 3am local time. The fact that you don't WANT to play at your local 3am timeframe is immaterial. You're paying for it anyway so why don't you play at 3am?
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We lost 30+hours in a week and half, pretty much all of it slap bang in the middle of prime time. If you can't see a problem with over a full days time lost, then we are done discussing this.
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But really, would you switch cell carriers in a heartbeat if they brought your cell service down every thursday morning?
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What I'm saying is I wouldn't demand compensation from a company if it wasn't a big inconvenience, and losing access to City of Heroes for a day is not a big inconvenience. It would be if that were the only game I play, but it isn't. I still have Steam and I still have other games to play.
What's more important in this case is that the company doesn't owe anyone anything. If they decide to provide any kind of compensation, it's a gesture of good will. However, in the face of irreverent demands, that gesture gets interpreted as buckling under pressure on the side of Paragon Studios, and suddenly we have to trip over "Compensate me!" threads here on the forums every day. They gave out a double experience weekend as compensation ONCE, and years ago. Since then, every time the servers go down in someone's inconvenient time, there's a demand for another double experience weekend.
The last thing I want to do is breed even more player entitlement. It's easily the most irritating part of this game's community.
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So a game should always be available and never have any downtime for fixes and upgrades?
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Again, it's not about 'deserves' either but about providing good customer service.
I don't quite understand why people are arguing with PS providing some sort of bone for all the extraneous downtime? I'm not talking $ either.
So a game should always be available and never have any downtime for fixes and upgrades? We had a launch, we lost a few hours. That all seems standard operating procedure for a game. Inconvenient? Yes. Out of the norm? No.
Don't get me wrong, I get just as annoyed as the next person when I take time to play and the servers are down. But things happen and Paragon really goes the extra mile here and through social media to keep the playerbase informed. It doesn't feel like abuse of the playerbase's trust to me. I mean we had a community rep on webcam for 12 hours the day of launch to keep the playerbase informed and occupied. It's very hard to feel slighted or mistreated when that's the attitude they take with their customer service. |
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I never suggested they did. How about you not jump into a conversation that isn't directed to you? Or perhaps you read the previous posts instead of taking this one out of context?
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You were the first one to jump into a conversation that wasn't directed to you. The op made a post. People responded to that post. Others, including you, jumped in to a conversation that wasn't directed to you. I can take part in any discussion on the forums, just as you can.
I've read all of the posts. I wasn't taking it out of context.
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Don't know where you got the every last pennys worth from my post, but using your logic, if my playtime is only 4 hours a day in the mornings and if i played every day that would be (30x4=120 hours) and they servers are down for 48 hours all morning times then i was only able to access the game i pay for a little over half the month. so I actually got much less play time. (using your logic)
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We lost 30+hours in a week and half, pretty much all of it slap bang in the middle of prime time. If you can't see a problem with over a full days time lost, then we are done discussing this.
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You don't hang someone for a parking violation. Your "punishment" you would impose on the company doesn't really fit the crime.
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Oh I see that it is a "problem". Any downtime for anyone is bad. I simply don't see your "solution" to it as reasonable in any context given the otherwise wonderful uptime record this company has demonstrated in 7.5 years.
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Why would it be punishment, I'm just asking that they acknowledge that the EU lost over a day and credit us that amount. WoW has done it several times, usually when funny enouigh an expansion or hardware upgrade balls up a server or two, or all of them.
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It is the norm in the MMO industry to credit for very long down time.
Why would it be punishment, I'm just asking that they acknowledge that the EU lost over a day and credit us that amount. WoW has done it several times, usually when funny enouigh an expansion or hardware upgrade balls up a server or two, or all of them.
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It is the norm in the MMO industry to credit for very long down time.
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I've already said I could easily see them giving us some PP as a means to apologize. I just think this idea that the company could or should cough up real money for this is overreaching on your part by leaps and bounds.
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Why do you keep clinging to WoW as an example of what this game should do? It's almost like asking your local mom and pop hardware store to live up to the same policies a huge store like Home Depot can afford.
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If you want a more extreme example FF14 launched, and was dire, what did S-E do? They made the game free to play, until people were satisified with the state of the game.
And why would adding the 1 day extra to my account be any different than giving us PP? Both 'cost' them real money.
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Given the scope of these changes... I'd expect several more days of extended downtime up to Freedom's release and most likely after.
There's no point in compensating anyone monetarily or in gamewise for the downtime when more is on the way. I'd hate to miss out on Dbl XP or my "free" day of playtime because the servers are down again.
I do believe the playerbase will get something once the dust finally settles. Theyve already pushed the maintenance window hours earlier to avoid as much EU primetime as they could. The devs do have a heart after all.
Why do you keep clinging to WoW as an example of what this game should do? It's almost like asking your local mom and pop hardware store to live up to the same policies a huge store like Home Depot can afford.
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That's a good point. There very well may be more downtime coming as they fix issues with Freedoms launch. Who knows we may get some form of double xp weekend or something else when they are done.
If you want a more extreme example FF14 launched, and was dire, what did S-E do? They made the game free to play, until people were satisified with the state of the game.
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I literally facepalm everytime someone complains about the servers being down for any amount of time. Seriously, go outside or something for a couple hours or run some errands. It's a game. It will have downtime. Live with it and stop complaining about something so insignificant.
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100 PP compensation please.