DC Relaunching Everything in the Fall?
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Posted on: 2011-05-17 19:08 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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I've been subjected to him for 18 weeks thus far reading DCUO: Legends. He is god awful and the art while tolerable from a aesthetic point of view it is bad for a linear art point of view and that could be due to the writer or artist...|
Originally Posted by Samothrake
I wouldn't know. Haven't read anything by him, that I know of. Also, we don't know how long he's going to be the writer. They could give him five or six issues and kick him off. On the other hand, perhaps this character is one where he might shine. I DUNNO!
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Also... just about all western comic art is bad...they try to make them more anatomically correct and they almost all fail in one form or another. It's just a matter of how bad and to what extent... and let's be honest...badly drawn feet isn't really a major issue
Wihout quoting more pictures, I just going to say that I like the costume of Grifter and what we can see of Stormwatch. Even Martian Manhunter. Though why they consigned J'onn to Stormwatch, I don't know. And why DC though they needed to put in mainstream more violent versions of Superman and Batman with Apollo and Midnighter, I also don't know. My only real exposure to those characters comes from the Captain Atom Armageddon series. I was rather liked most of the characters there other than Apollo and Midnighter.
Also, we are supposed to believe from that cover that Superboy is an robot/android? It would kinda explain the "tattoo," and perhaps bring him back, to his days with Project Cadmus, but agian, that would negate years of character growth.
Also also, I like the look of Frankenstien, but that cover gives him a countenance much too reptilian in nature for my tastes.
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Well, one of the DC guys said he never wants to see Supergirl's panties again, iirc. The cynic in me says, "Well, she could always go commando then...". |
Originally Posted by BrandX
Couldn't they keep the old look of Supergirl while giving her the new costume (which just seems like a reason to say "look no pantie shots")?
Harley Quinn, love her outfit, but it doesn't seem like the Harley Quinn I love. |
Or maybe teach your artists how to draw scenes such that she isn't flashing the viewer. It might also be a way of moving away from the rather too-skinny look that she's had for a while.Harley looks more like Arkham Asylum Harley than anything else.
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But flashing the viewer is the way the brought in the 12-18 year old audience! And going commando isn't going to happen in any official DC comic. Use google for that if you want. |
Originally Posted by Dark One
The cynic in me says, "Well, she could always go commando then...".
Or maybe teach your artists how to draw scenes such that she isn't flashing the viewer. |
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Hey, if they aren't CCA approved anymore, anything can happen...|
Originally Posted by Samothrake
But flashing the viewer is the way the brought in the 12-18 year old audience! And going commando isn't going to happen in any official DC comic. Use google for that if you want.
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Well... it looks like DC has decided to go back to the XTREME '90s.
Supposed definitive list of all 52 books getting the reboot treatment in Sept from DC....or as some have started to call it DCnU.....
time will only tell if this was a good idea before this is all retconned and they start everything over yet again and go back to what the status quo was before infinte crisis occured......
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I liked the current version of Supergirl! When I could hit the comic store all the time, I picked up Supergirl because I liked that version of Supergirl. *sigh*
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Well, one of the DC guys said he never wants to see Supergirl's panties again, iirc. The cynic in me says, "Well, she could always go commando then...".
Or maybe teach your artists how to draw scenes such that she isn't flashing the viewer. It might also be a way of moving away from the rather too-skinny look that she's had for a while.Harley looks more like Arkham Asylum Harley than anything else. |
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Cause it isn't.|
Originally Posted by BrandX
Harley Quinn, love her outfit, but it doesn't seem like the Harley Quinn I love.
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What made Harley great was that she was such a great mess of contradictions. Ditzy and intelligent, psychotic and adorable... oh, and she was sexy without prancing around in her underwear. Sure, she still had the skintight suit, but it was still pretty modest by comic book standards.
Now we get a Harley wearing an idiotic outfit worthy of the White Queen. And, judging by the cover image, will probably be your standard, one-note psycho. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they ditched the psychiatrist background and said she was a junkie raver.
I try to be positive, I really do. I'm almost always the one saying "wait and see", "give it a chance", but this.... I just can't be optimistic about this.
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Originally Posted by Cowman
I try to be positive, I really do. I'm almost always the one saying "wait and see", "give it a chance", but this.... I just can't be optimistic about this.
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I liked her too, but even I could admit that at times she looked rather...waifish..
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I liked the current version of Supergirl! When I could hit the comic store all the time, I picked up Supergirl because I liked that version of Supergirl. *sigh*
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Thank you for that link. From it we get to see other covers such as|
Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Supposed definitive list of all 52 books getting the reboot treatment in Sept from DC....or as some have started to call it DCnU.....
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Wonder Woman
Captain Atom
Firestorm
Hawkman
Justice League International
So, we can see that Wonder Woman's leggings are black (ugh).
Firestorm is a combination of Jason and Ronnie. Ineresting how they are both dressed on the cover. I wonder if it is a 'visual reference' for to know who is in "control'. Also makes me wonde what's going on with the Firestorm in the back.
Hawkman is tweaked. More armor, and what looks like organic/bone weapons. (no Nth metal?)
So JLI is Rocket Red (dunno which one), Guy Gardner, Ice, Fire, Booster Gold, August General in Iron (Chinese superhero from the Great Ten), Vixen and what could be Donna Troy. August General, Guy, and Vixen look to have no changes to their uniforms. Can't tell with Fire, as she's - well - on/made of fire. Small tweaks to Booster's and Rocket Red's costumes. If that IS Donna, it's a totally new costume for her.
And finally, not sure what to think of Captain Atom's 'quantum fire hair' but it looks wierd. Wish we could get more of a full body shot of him.
All in all, very intersesting.
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This looks like one of those Kirkman books like Invincible or Wolf Man that are over-the-top and wink-wink action. That said, the outfit is a lot better than the 1985 one she was wearing last year.|
Originally Posted by Samothrake
Wonder Woman
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Captain Atom
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Firestorm
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Hawkman
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Justice League International
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I agree. And if "not issue #1" is going to be a locked gate to new readers, what makes them think that #9 is going to be any less of a disincentive than #900? In two or three years they're going to have the same problem anyway.
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Originally Posted by Nightphall
Reason for the reboot from DC: To gain new readers by offering comics, characters, and stories unburdened by a massive amount of continuity and backlog
?!?! Maybe it's just me to which this statement makes no sense.....I was born in 1984, and DC Comics existed when my late grandparents were children. I had no problem jumping into DC or Marvel, despite decades of backlog and continuity. If people weren't buying comics before this, even if they know who Batman and Superman are, what is going to make them start now? |
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I see this as a great moment to stop buying new comics and buy more back issues instead.
- The Italian Job: The Godfather Returns #1151
Beginner - Encounter a renewed age for the Mook and the Family when Emile Marcone escapes from the Zig!
- Along Came a... Bug!? #528482
Average - A new race of aliens arrives on Earth. And Vanguard has you investigate them!
- The Court of the Blood Countess: The Rise of the Blood Countess #3805
Advanced - Go back in time and witness the birth of a vampire. Follow her to key moments in her life in order to stop her! A story of intrigue, drama and horror! Blood & Violence... not recommend to solo!
At this point im settling in to wait n see mode. The sales people for DC will be holding a Q&A for retailers pretty soon, so im going to wait until i hear what comes out of that.
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Honestly I didn't know...I only read the GL books and JLA.
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Originally Posted by Samothrake
I'm gonna assume there's no sarcasm here. Just for my own sanity.
Jason Todd has been alive since before Infinite Crisis (five or six yearss now). Superboy Primes punching of of he walls of reality brought him back. Yes, that is the official reason. I'm not kidding you. As bad as that sounds, I invite you to go here to find out the whole explaination found in Batman Annual #25. |
Is it just me or do all the female characters seems to have smaller breasts?
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16 year old girl looking waifish? That never happens |
Originally Posted by Dark One
I liked her too, but even I could admit that at times she looked rather...waifish..
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21st century m'man. fan service is eeeeeeeeeeevil now. |
Originally Posted by Durakken
Is it just me or do all the female characters seems to have smaller breasts?
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didn't you get the memo?
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It occurs to me that we have not yet seen a picture of the new Power Girl.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
Is it just me or do all the female characters seems to have smaller breasts?
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Current DC (non-Vertigo) pull-list:
SupermanPost-Relaunch Try-out List
Wonder Woman
Batgirl
Batman Beyond
Batman & Robin
--limited series--
Batman: Arkham City
DCUO Legends
Batman & Detective arcs depending on writer
JLA arcs depending on writer
Most appearances of Harley & Joker
Justice LeagueAnd of the Try-out list, I have doubts on continuing with most of them...we'll see.
Batgirl
Catwoman
Batwing
Static Shock
Blackhawks
Action Comics
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I have no idea what my pull list will be come this DCnU thing... but it will likely be smaller.
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That's what I'm thinking when I look at her.
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Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater
Judging solely by her appearance, maybe it's been decided to combine Super Girl and Power Girl?
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Jason Todd has been alive since before Infinite Crisis (five or six yearss now). Superboy Primes punching of of he walls of reality brought him back.
Yes, that is the official reason. I'm not kidding you.
As bad as that sounds, I invite you to go here to find out the whole explaination found in Batman Annual #25.