WHAT, 9000!? (Shards)
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Posted on: 2011-03-01 17:40 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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One almost thinks the devs did this on purpose just for the reference.
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STEPS TO BEING AN INCARNATE:
1) Do the trials;
2) ?????????;
3) Profit.
Complaining that you're being asked to group in a MMORPG is not what's behind ???????.
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I don't care HOW you play, if it really costs that much to get the next one, that is MORONIC! No matter how fan-boy you are, that is moronic!
Now, if doing a TF/SF nets you double the amount of shards that drop now, then maybe. But DANG!
And the next one BETTER be Demi-God like in the power it gives you!
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Come on, man. Even I'll say that over nine thousand is really kinda sick.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
STEPS TO BEING AN INCARNATE:
1) Do the trials; 2) ?????????; 3) Profit. Complaining that you're being asked to group in a MMORPG is not what's behind ???????. |
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So, I'm not actually acutely aware of everything that goes on in this forum. Can you supply a link, or something?
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
I haven't done the math, but some of it is available earlier in the thread.
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All you need to do is click the arrow in the quote but here is the link.|
Originally Posted by FunstuffofDoom
So, I'm not actually acutely aware of everything that goes on in this forum. Can you supply a link, or something?
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...63#post3513163
ohh and it is only 3200 shards
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Huh. Cool, and thanks.
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Originally Posted by BrokenPrey
All you need to do is click the arrow in the quote but here is the link.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...63#post3513163 ohh and it is only 3200 shards |
Starcloud really blew the math on this one.
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Originally Posted by Le Blanc
I don't care HOW you play, if it really costs that much to get the next one, that is MORONIC! No matter how fan-boy you are, that is moronic!
Now, if doing a TF/SF nets you double the amount of shards that drop now, then maybe. But DANG! And the next one BETTER be Demi-God like in the power it gives you! |
This is all out of context. The Incarnate Threads drop like Shards do when in an Incarnate Trial. Additionally, you earn Incarnate XP (which is how you unlock subsequent incarnate slots)
The Shard to Thread conversion is not the only way (or even the preferred way) to acquire Threads. The new Trials are.
Shards are only for Alpha. Threads are for Judgement, Lore, Destiny and Interface.
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It is very relevant to people who don't like raids. It demonstrates a "If you don't like the raids, you should do the raids, because we really want you to like the raids" approach on the devs' part that is unprecedented in this game and worrying for its future direction.
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Originally Posted by Master Zaprobo
This is all out of context. The Incarnate Threads drop like Shards do when in an Incarnate Trial. Additionally, you earn Incarnate XP (which is how you unlock subsequent incarnate slots)
The Shard to Thread conversion is not the only way (or even the preferred way) to acquire Threads. The new Trials are. |
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1600 if you use the better conversion rate (which is time-locked but still halves your shard requirements).|
Originally Posted by BrokenPrey
All you need to do is click the arrow in the quote but here is the link.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...63#post3513163 ohh and it is only 3200 shards |
For reference, very rare alpha requires 488 shards if you refuse to ever team. So it is more, but that's intentional.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
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To me, doing TFs is the equivalent of doing radio missions (which I've stopped doing entirely now that jet packs can be bought, and with Ninja Run I don't often need them anyway). Almost everyone, it seems, wants to speed through TFs for the rewards. I'm not allowed time to find out what's going on, and I'm not going to slow down a team I've joined because what makes the game enjoyable for me is different for them, so a TF is just a series of mostly unconnected "go beat up this group" missions. I've done most of the TFs in the game at this point and I could not tell you what a single one of them was about.
For me, if I'm playing solely to gain rewards, there is no point to the game. Whether I gain the ingredients solo or on TFs, becoming an incarnate is no different than farming. If I wanted to grind for gear, there are many other MMOs I'd enjoy playing. I wouldn't even care about it here if it were being treated as every other niche, and not the focus, and only real substance, of every new issue.
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@Doc Gemini: So why not form your own team and pace yourselves through the TF/SF? You are missing out on some interesting stories (some of them at least... others are plain boring). Just advertise you're doing a slow run.
On topic: What Master Zaprobo said, to be honest. From the sneak peak last night, EU side, I went from 0% to 30% experience earned to unlock my Interface slot by doing 1 and a half Lambda Sector trial. I also had Incarnate Thread drops pretty much the same way as Shard drops on doing TF/SF. Considering you can only work on one slot at a time by doing the appropriate Inc Trial, it doesn't seem harder than unlocking the Alpha slot and slotting it up. But that's just my opinion, yours may vary.
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"TFs is the equivalent of paper missions" is probably the most direct way of putting my feelings into words, so thank you for that. Repeating the same handful of tasks over and over again is... Pretty much paper missions, and is also the reason I usually don't do those.
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Originally Posted by Doctor_Gemini
To me, doing TFs is the equivalent of doing radio missions (which I've stopped doing entirely now that jet packs can be bought, and with Ninja Run I don't often need them anyway). Almost everyone, it seems, wants to speed through TFs for the rewards. I'm not allowed time to find out what's going on, and I'm not going to slow down a team I've joined because what makes the game enjoyable for me is different for them, so a TF is just a series of mostly unconnected "go beat up this group" missions. I've done most of the TFs in the game at this point and I could not tell you what a single one of them was about.
For me, if I'm playing solely to gain rewards, there is no point to the game. Whether I gain the ingredients solo or on TFs, becoming an incarnate is no different than farming. If I wanted to grind for gear, there are many other MMOs I'd enjoy playing. I wouldn't even care about it here if it were being treated as every other niche, and not the focus, and only real substance, of every new issue. |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Personally i find it totally fair *shrugs* After experiencing the trial last night all i can say is that the rate you get the xp/threads is quite high.
For people that dont like to team, the first part of the trial [which is basically just defeat easy mobs on the outside of the trial which is VERY VERY easy] can get you 10-15% along. Think people are forgetting that while the number is high, it is purely there to stop people storming through the system. How many people do you know that say they have X amount of shards already?
They've given people the option for the people that purely like to solo and we all knew the conversion rate would be high because otherwise why would people want to do the trial which is very difficult when a shard farm can get you it much easier. Plus the trial is very short so timeframe for people cant be an issue i see.
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Riiiight. Like how a player must go into PvP zones if they want to get Shivans or Nukes or Longbow/Arachnos Mechs and if they don't like that they can do without. Nothing new to see hear.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
It is very relevant to people who don't like raids. It demonstrates a "If you don't like the raids, you should do the raids, because we really want you to like the raids" approach on the devs' part that is unprecedented in this game and worrying for its future direction.
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Or, you know, just don't do the raids. Yes, you'll miss out on content and it'll take you longer to get the stuff that you want, but the same could be said for pretty much *any* aspect of the game - hell, a lot of MMOs wouldn't give you the alternative route to getting the Incarnate slots & powers.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
It is very relevant to people who don't like raids. It demonstrates a "If you don't like the raids, you should do the raids, because we really want you to like the raids" approach on the devs' part that is unprecedented in this game and worrying for its future direction.
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^This basically. The exact same principle works for Hami-Os (you can get them relatively quickly running the relevant TFs / Raid or you can grind Inf and/or a-merits to earn them), PvP IOs, Rare Recipes in general and a lot of the temp powers like Shivians and Nukes.|
Originally Posted by The_Spad_EU
Or, you know, just don't do the raids. Yes, you'll miss out on content and it'll take you longer to get the stuff that you want, but the same could be said for pretty much *any* aspect of the game - hell, a lot of MMOs wouldn't give you the alternative route to getting the Incarnate slots & powers.
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Hell some of the badges and accolades you have to do specific arcs and take down specific EB level nasties to get them.
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Getting those accolades became trivial since being able to set those EBs to level 49.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
^This basically. The exact same principle works for Hami-Os (you can get them relatively quickly running the relevant TFs / Raid or you can grind Inf and/or a-merits to earn them), PvP IOs, Rare Recipes in general and a lot of the temp powers like Shivians and Nukes.
Hell some of the badges and accolades you have to do specific arcs and take down specific EB level nasties to get them. |
Just saying, accolades used to be considered hardcore. They haven't been for a long, long time.
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Originally Posted by Doctor_Gemini
To me, doing TFs is the equivalent of doing radio missions (which I've stopped doing entirely now that jet packs can be bought, and with Ninja Run I don't often need them anyway). Almost everyone, it seems, wants to speed through TFs for the rewards. I'm not allowed time to find out what's going on, and I'm not going to slow down a team I've joined because what makes the game enjoyable for me is different for them, so a TF is just a series of mostly unconnected "go beat up this group" missions. I've done most of the TFs in the game at this point and I could not tell you what a single one of them was about.
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1) Start a team;
2) Get on a 'shard run' or 'kill most' TF where people are killing most of the mobs for shards. Plenty of time to read the contact info.
3) Have Paragonwiki up in window when you do it. I used to do that for TFs I wasn't the leader so I could get the parts of the story told only to the leader.
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| For me, if I'm playing solely to gain rewards, there is no point to the game. Whether I gain the ingredients solo or on TFs, becoming an incarnate is no different than farming. If I wanted to grind for gear, there are many other MMOs I'd enjoy playing. I wouldn't even care about it here if it were being treated as every other niche, and not the focus, and only real substance, of every new issue. |
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It's been 8 months.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
It's been two issues.
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So far.
And it looks to be exactly like this for at least the next 6 months, at the pace this team is working.
Apparently, creating task forces is hard and consumes the time of the entire development team.
:/
I know that War Witch said that after incarnates, they would focus on content.
I just didn't realize that meant they'd be skipping regular content until 'after incarnates', and that 'after incarnates' would be approximately when the mayan calendar kills us all.
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Also: Six years of casual play begins to look an awful lot like one year of hardcore play.
WTF? That's not "slower solo" progress that's "glacial don't even bother soloing come and play our raid setups we put so much time into making them" progress.