Originally Posted by Golden Girl
If devs give players a Power Girl style outfit, then someone's going to tint it in trippy colors, add long hair, and make Flower Power Girl.
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Does anyone here even LIKE comic books?
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Being interested in Asian entertainment doesn't make you crazy. Being crazy helps, though.
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Especially for One Piece where you absolutely must suspend your disbelief to enjoy it.
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Of course not. That name was taken approximately seven seconds after the game first went live on all servers.
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My favorite thing about people that rant against political correctness is that being annoyed by political correctness validates it. How? Keep your eye on the ball, kids:
You're annoyed by their words, so you communicate with your own words that words are "only words." If they were "only words", these "Proudly Anti-PC People" should have found alternate pronouns far easier to ignore by now. Unfortunately, it seems that words do carry implicit and subtle meanings which can upset someone. So... We are offended we hurt you with our thoughtless word choice and will be sensitive to your preferences in the future. :P |
Probably a small minority here but...
I never grew up reading superhero comic books. Since I was raised in a francophone household, my lit consisted of stuff like Asterix, Tintin, Gaston Lagaffe, Iznogoud, Buck Danny...the first two you could call "superheroic" I guess, since Asterix gets super strength from a potion and they both have high cunning/mental acuity. |
Asterix most definately fits in the superhero mold, even though he's set in ancient Rome. I even have a homage to the character here I named "Ampersand".
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We do indeed enjoy the comics milieu. We just don't do a lot of public roleplay. Public roleplay is rare, and if you are here for that you may find this game disappointing.
Further more, I might actually bother rolling an AR character if it had more dakka like Santa Supes had. The Syndicate Chaingun temp power from GR is a good start...if they duct taped two more to it plus a grenade launcher and mounted it to a steadicam harness.
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Anyway, on to a post of my own:
I've been a fan of comic books all my life, Western style superheroes growing up, and Japanese Manga and Anime when I was a teenager. I don't really have a problem with any of them, I like all the genres, and couldn't care less if they are compatible or not.
One thing I do feel I have to point out, is that comic books, particularly in the West, are our modern age's version of mythology. It's not a coincidence that Thor and Hercules and mythologically inspired superheroes like Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel draw from Ancient Greek and Norse myths. We are retelling those myths, in our modern day and age, with our modern backdrop of science and technology. But the stories are still the same old stories, and the heroes are still the same old heroes.
Star Wars is the same thing. Check out Joseph Campbell some time.
In the Golden Age, heroes were mostly magical and mythical in nature. Wonder Woman started out as an Amazon empowered by the Greek Gods. Dr. Fate and many of the other heroes mentioned previously were derived from the same sources. Even today, you've still got characters like Dr. Strange with magical powers, dealing with the occult, or recurring demonic characters like Mephisto providing magical and mythical influences for heroes that are otherwise science or technology-based.
The Silver Age introduce the science and technology angle, with Green Lantern reinvisioned as a member of a space Corps, and The Flash with less nods to Mercury. (Garrick's origin was apparently somewhat scientific in nature, but then so was Superman, but this was considerably expanded on after the birth of the Atomic Age) And the dark anti-heroes of the 80's and 90's, whether you like them or not, are part of the history of the genre as well. So I think CoH does a good job of combining all these influences, and building a backstory and universe of its own.
For me, personally, my main characters have always been superheroes in the Golden Age and Silver Age sense. Jade Dragon, Blue Diamond, Genie Gold and Silver Bolt would all have been completely at home in any comic of the 50s through 70s. Element Dog, the original version of Genie Gold, was very much based on the funny animal characters, like Krypto and Marvel Bunny. Although he was also very strongly inspired by Mr. Peabody of the Rocky and Bullwinckle Show.
My two cyberpunk characters, though, Alan Midnight and his AI Rachel, are very much influenced by modern dark comics, as well as film noir detective movies, and cyberpunk influences like Neuromancer and Johnny Mnemonic. Not a small amount of Tron, as well. Bloodwolf is definately a modern hero in the non-costumed, mercenary vigilante mold, plus very strongly inspired by a TV Series called the Sword of Justice.
Sandy, and in fact Rachel, are inspired by Anime, specifically Battle Angel Alita and Ghost in the Shell. Sandy goes beyond that into a sort of teenage angst, reluctant heroine kind of mold, like Sailor Moon, the X-Men, or Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Her story would be perfectly at home in a totally different genre, as she was originally created for a fanfic story I wrote for another game, but she makes a great (if reluctant) superhero too.
I guess ultimately what I have to say is that when comic books range from Looney Tunes to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to Strangers in Paradise, to The Maxx to Maus, what does it really mean to say, "this is a game about comic books?" Is it a game about comic book SUPERheroes? Or is it just a game about comic book HEROES? Is it a game about heroes in general? About heroes in the movies and TV shows as well? Is a pulp novel detective, or a mystical space-faring knight, or a sword swinging barbarian really out of place here?
You know, I actually find the fact that you can create other MMOs' characters here, and you can't create these characters there, to be a GOOD thing.
You'll have a lot of fun if you ever study Russian, or any of the other Cyrillic languages, then
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Table = female
Chair = female
Knife = female
Fork = male
But then... there is also words that have versions for both genders and a few neutral...
Knight has the two versions
Ninja is neutral
And I probably could make this even weirder... but enough about portuguese...
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It's about time someone stood up and did something about these ridiculous characters ruining the game. They are interfering with the story of my telekinetic babe from Earth 2561.xxx.09 who came back to life after swallowing a star while possessed by the Phoenix Force that created a clone that flirted with a regenerating science experiment but married lazer beam guy whose kid went to another dimension and returned with big guns.
Maybe it's just a virtue thing then. But I know I've seen fantasy styled Elves, Trolls, Ogres, Hobbits...ect...characters.
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My own are Rularuu.
But even if they are supposed to be elves and orcs... Why would it be a problem? It's not like those things haven't shown up time and again in the source material.
Then again, I'm a life-long Doc Strange fan-girl, so my idea of what fits in a comic book world is probably a little off-the-wall.
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I am more a fan of things like Thorgal, Jeremiah, Storm, De Rode Ridder (The Red Knight), ... Old classics like Asterix or gags like Gaston Lagaffe, Dommel, ... Mostly Belgian/French/Dutch stuff.
Most of my characters are based on American style superheroes though. About a third of them have written bios and a few use their 'real' name.
On other subjects:
I personally appreciate it when people point out typos in my bios. And I usually do point them out when I read them in other peoples bios. If they give me grief for it I just think: "well, you're the one looking like an illiterate, not me", and move on.
Pronouns: I honestly thought the OP was intentionally mistyping them as some sort of jab to the person who got angry at him for correcting his typos.
Also, I default to the male pronouns when in doubt (in game I usually refer to the gender of the character). Because that's the 'rule' in Dutch, my native language, and thus what I'm used too. If people get offended by that, then well, that's to bad really, but not a lot I can do about it.
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I seem to see a ton more creations based on anime than actual comics.
And most of the comic-related characters I see are so horribly dark and gritty that you sometimes want to start cutting yourself, and maybe even others, due to the sheer emo and attitude they put off.
I will admit that rarely are our villains this:
and a bit more often this: but I think that the devs at least try to give us this: They just need more of them. |
Isn't Nemesis our Magneto equivalent? Emperor Cole is our Zod. Maybe we need more, but we have those avenues covered
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But even if they are supposed to be elves and orcs... Why would it be a problem? It's not like those things haven't shown up time and again in the source material.
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I do have a bunch of characters that are based on my characters from my Dungeons and Dragons days, though. So they're in the sword and sorcery mold. Their origins are kind of shady and mysterious, though, I have one elven character that says absolutely nothing about him being an elf, just "he appeared one day". The same for a white-haired Amazon who just appeared, apparently in some sort of fever delirium, clutching a scimitar. I also have a couple of characters that are modern incarnations of my characters, one is his great-great-great grandson, while another is a young boy who just picked up a bow one day and went hunting baddies because he wanted some adventure.
My main villain, who ties them all together, is from the past, and knows about their former selves. He was imprisoned by the Circle of Thorns for a thousand years. So now that he's back, forces are working behind the scenes to re-unite his old enemies so they can stop him again from fulfilling his plans of conquest.
Seriously, you can explain any background in this game. Call it alternate universes, or clones, or deals with the devil. It's not like those kinds of things never happen in comic books.
Are these pronouns used in RL at all? I had never seen them used.
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To be honest, I find them distracting and silly. A better choice is the much more naturalistic third-person plural, "they." It already enjoys wide currency, and though it is not (currently) grammatically correct, because of the disagreement in number, language is all about utility,flexibility and change.
What do I mean about change? Centuries ago the word "you," or one of its forms, was used for the second-person plural. "Thou" was the second-person singular. Since then we've dumped thou and use the same word for singular and plural.
Obviously there's still a grammatical necessity for distinguishing number to eliminate ambiguity in some cases, and many regions have developed replacements. For example, "Y'all" is the plural form in the South, and "Youse" has been used in in the East. The rest of us are forced to use some other circumlocution to avoid confusion.
Thus, using "they" for the indefinite third person is no stranger than using "you" for the second person.
All changes in language start out being "wrong." Some achieve wide use and become "right" and grammatical.
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[Edit] To elaborate, I didn't just play the JLA: Act of God card lightly. I feel it's quite appropriate to what you always seemed to champion and part of what's wrong with the game: Blue Blue powered down, useless and ineffectual with his ideal **** upon. A gigantic swooning love letter to how 'awsum' Bat-Scrapper is while basically flipping off the Atom, Martian Manhunter, the Flash and other heroes. A massive mishandling of a cool idea that had potential. . |
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