Does anyone here even LIKE comic books?


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First, welcome to the game and the forum

CoH is a very instance-heavy game, so the zones don't get that much use, as almost all the missions are on instanced maps accessed from various doors in the zones - there could be several teams in one zone, but one they're on their mission maps, you wonät be able to see them.

If you're looking for more "real" comic book types, you should try Virtue server, which has a high population, and has a lot of RPers on it.


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There's also a role playing section on these boards. This is more of a general interest forum and although people discuss bios and "Will your character want to go rogue?" type questions here, you're also going to get a lot of non-rp related stuff.

If you haven't, you can try playing on Virtue which is the unofficial "role playing" server. It's also one of the heaviest populated servers in the game (not everyone is there to role play of course). Even there, you'd be best served to get into a RP-oriented supergroup rather than expecting everyone in a pickup group to role play their way through radio missions. Check out the Virtue server forum on these boards for more information.


 

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As has been mentioned, I suspect one of those servers you tried wasn't Virtue, because I don't really see the problems you mentioned when I play (which is exclusively on Virtue). So give that a shot.


 

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The first disappointment is that the game feels like a ghost town.
That's because this game makes heavy use of instancing and has a good chat system; people spend most of their time in missions, and don't usually recruit people by standing around broadcasting. Try joining a global channel (channel search is under the Tab button in your chat box).

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I will see a handful of people occasionally, but what few people are around all tend to be level 50s -- and this brings me to the part which annoys me most. The vast majority of the level 50s I've encountered seem to treat this game as just another kill-the-monster, get-the-treasure MMO where the idea is to min/max your power potential. They create stupid or boring names (some of them don't even bother to think of superhero names, they use what appears to be a name chosen randomly from a phone book), and can't be bothered to create even the most basic background.
What server are you on? Virtue is the unofficial RP server, while Freedom is where the powerlevelers and PvPers hang out (and is often called Freedumb). Justice is the unofficial Australian server.

Also, some of those people with dumb names may well be farmers for illegal Inf spammers/sellers; they pick random names because they don't care and don't expect the character to last anyway.

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Reading through the various fora here, people seem to be interested solely in obsessing over "toons" and "shards" and "IO builds" and which "AV" slots out best and other arcane trivia.
That's more of a forumite thing, and only in certain sections to boot.

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The final straw for me may have been the exchange I had last night with a "50" where I sent hir a message that sie had a few typos in hir background, and helpfully provided the corrections. Sie replied that if sie wanted someone to edit hir background text sie would ask over Global, and that I was now welcomed to (and I quote) "iggy." I was taken aback by the sheer sour rudeness, and it ruined all my sense of enjoyment for the evening.
And? If you expect to play without encountering the occasional jerk, you might as well take up solitaire. On the whole this game community is one of the nicer ones around.


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The final straw for me may have been the exchange I had last night with a "50" where I sent hir a message that sie had a few typos in hir background, and helpfully provided the corrections. Sie replied that if sie wanted someone to edit hir background text sie would ask over Global, and that I was now welcomed to (and I quote) "iggy." I was taken aback by the sheer sour rudeness, and it ruined all my sense of enjoyment for the evening.
Emphasis mine.
What?


 

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Yes, people here do like comic books, but clearly, a lot of people here are here because they like MMOs. Very broadly speaking, I think you are looking for people who have some role-player in their soul, and honestly, an awful lot of people don't. Just to be clear, I don't think that's a bad thing, but it sounds like maybe it's not what you expected with this being your first MMO.

First, let me explain a couple of things about the game. There is nothing meaningful to do in the open zones. All the goals and actions are in missions, which are instanced. So most of the people playing are not in the common areas. This is both a good and a bad thing. One bad part is the thing you've noticed - that makes the common areas look dead. One good thing is that no one can interfere with your instances. There's basically no such thing in CoH as someone "stealing" your kills or other objectives in a mission. It also helps keep load under control in the various zones.

The monster heads and most of the spikey "dark" costume pieces you're seeing were added specifically for City of Villains when it was a completely stand-alone game. They were then proliferated to both sides if you owned both games. So what you're seeing are villainous costume pieces that people have outfitted on what I am presuming are heroes. More, better animal heads have been requested for a long time, and are actually planned to be coming sometime in the foreseeable future as a micro transaction pack (which usually cost around $10 or less).

Remember, this is, first and foremost, a video game. Most of the people on the forums are there because they're engrossed in the game. Lore and role-playing are only a part of the available scope of the game. Moreover, most of the people here on the forums are probably more obsessed with the workings of the game than most. It's why a lot of them are here. However, there are sections of the forums fairly dedicated to roleplay concepts. In terms of role-play in-game, the Virtue server is the unofficial role-play server. Be warned, that may not mean the people there are more comic focused. Role-play means a lot of things to a lot of people, so you may be as likely to find someone playing a vampire as a golden-age super hero.

Finally, don't assume that because you met someone rude that most people here are rude. This is, by and large, one of the friendliest MMO communities out there. (In fact, if you stick it out and still think people are rude here, my advice is to stay away from most MMOs. ) Stick around and try to ignore people doing stuff you don't like, because odds are you can find people who do stuff you do like and hang out with them instead of those ignorable people.

Anyway I hope that helps. Welcome to the game, and here's hoping you find something worth sticking around for.


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The final straw for me may have been the exchange I had last night with a "50" where I sent hir a message that sie had a few typos in hir background, and helpfully provided the corrections. Sie replied that if sie wanted someone to edit hir background text sie would ask over Global, and that I was now welcomed to (and I quote) "iggy." I was taken aback by the sheer sour rudeness, and it ruined all my sense of enjoyment for the evening.
You know... some people don't really want criticism coming out of nowhere.

It's one thing to do some proofreading when someone asks you to. It's another entirely to be hanging out, playing the game, when all of a sudden a tell pops up telling you "Your bio has mistakes in it!"

There's a time and a place for that.

Also, unless the character was gender neutral, it's okay to use gender pronouns based on the character's gender. Honest.


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Looks like everyone has covered the pertinent bits here already

1) Not a lot to do in open areas, people are in missions
2) Check out Virtue, also check out the Virtue forum and introduce yourself there. Could make it even easier to find like-minded people.
3) Just randomly offering to correct people's characters (bio, name, power-choices,etc) is something I'd suggest avoiding.
4) Welcome aboard


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I love comics. I actually don't particularly care for capes-and-tights superhero comics, so I'm glad this game is not only about capes-and-tights superheroes. I like this game because it lets me play powerful people who punch dudes for various reasons, and look cool doing it.

I agree that it is silly that some costume pieces must be unlocked on each character, while other less generally useful ones are available by default.


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Also, check out the Comic and Hero/Villain Culture board. While it is in some senses a 'general discussion' place, there is a fair amount of comic discussion that goes on there. A quick glance at the first page suggest 8 comic-book realted threads right now. (I make no guarantee about tangents.)


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I was born in the 60's and grew up on comics. I honestly don't read them regularly any more but I'm a huge fan of the medium.

Listen to what the others have suggested, they are right on target. As someone who's been playing MMORPGS and gaming from back in the day of 300 baud modems and local BBS games... this is indeed one of the best communities of any current MMORPG.

Make the effort, you'll find the right people to spend time with and you won't regret it. CoH is an amazing game played by a pretty damn cool group of people.


 

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I actually don't particularly care for capes-and-tights superhero comics
Begone with your unheroic ways


@Golden Girl

City of Heroes comics and artwork

 

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The first disappointment is that the game feels like a ghost town. I will see a handful of people occasionally, but what few people are around all tend to be level 50s
Most people who are actually DOING something will not be outdoors where you can see them. The ones loitering outdoors are likely to be either visiting the market or just socializing. Both of these activities are often done with peoples 'primary' characters, who would tend to be level 50.


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-- and this brings me to the part which annoys me most. The vast majority of the level 50s I've encountered seem to treat this game as just another kill-the-monster, get-the-treasure MMO where the idea is to min/max your power potential. They create stupid or boring names (some of them don't even bother to think of superhero names, they use what appears to be a name chosen randomly from a phone book), and can't be bothered to create even the most basic background. Reading through the various fora here, people seem to be interested solely in obsessing over "toons" and "shards" and "IO builds" and which "AV" slots out best and other arcane trivia.
Well, your experience is DRAMATICALLY different from mine. I can't explain it. Maybe you were already a bit soured on the game and are only seeing the negative things around you.

As for your characterization of the posts on the forums, that's to be expected. The math-heads, gear-heads, min-maxers, etc gravitate to the forums since you can go into excruciating detail in this format.


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This is only my second month playing, but I'm already questioning whether I want to continue.
Not every game is a good fit for every potential player. I've been playing this one 5-1/2 years and I love it. If you're disliking it from day one, it may not be for you.

I'm not going to argue that you should "give it another chance" because, frankly, I would find that almost insulting if someone said it to me. If I don't like something, then I don't like it and no one is going to persuade me that I actually do like it. This is a game. The goal is to have fun. If you're genuinely NOT having fun, try a different game. Please note: I'm not saying, "Get lost!" I think this is a GREAT game. But not every game is great (or even acceptable) to every player.


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well pen, first, remember that there are a number of different styles of comics out there, I have to confess to not really caring for the silver and golden aged stuff, and am much more of a fan of manga and more modern graphic novels. so comics yes, but remember that comics doesn't have to mean tights and capes. I loved the crow, i enjoy a good segment of manga, big fan of ronin and the sandman series. not all comics are 4 color tights affairs.

now as for the ghost town thing, as has been discussed, this game, unlike most on the market heavily uses instancing, that way in "your" experience you can beat dr. vahzilok without having him re-spawn 3 seconds later in the very same spot you just stopped him. it allows fora more personalized experience and reinforces that you, as the hero/villain, are accomplishing things, this was improved in going rogue, as certain actions can cause a contact to vanish entirely.

finally, you know, to many people, offering unsolicited grammar corrections can appear condescending. you may not have meant to, but you very likely appeared just as rude to that player. (plus the bio cursor is sometimes hideously unweildy) so, you know, maybe try to get to know someone before you offer that sort of assistance, because it could very easily be taken as you belittling their intelligence.


 

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Those are hermaphroditic/gender neutral pronouns. Why PoisonPen is using them, I have no idea.
Because PoisonPen isn't assuming anything about the gender of the person she/he was talking to. And it's a lot easier to type sie and hir than she/he and his/her.


 

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Are these pronouns used in RL at all? I had never seen them used.

I agree the English language needs some genderless pronouns.


 

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Are these pronouns used in RL at all? I had never seen them used.

I agree the English language needs some genderless pronouns.
I actually IS okay to use they and their in these situations.


 

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Are these pronouns used in RL at all? I had never seen them used.
Define "real life".

They aren't formally accepted parts of the language, if that's what you're asking.


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They create stupid or boring names (some of them don't even bother to think of superhero names, they use what appears to be a name chosen randomly from a phone book)
I take issue with this. Henry Pym goes around as Henry Pym, because sometimes he's Giant Man, sometimes he's Ant-man, recently he's been the Wasp, but often he's none of the above. He's just Henry Pym.

Then there's Beast. I think more people call him Hank McCoy than not.

Luke Cage? He has no other name now. Someone else took the name Power Man.

And if Bucky is still Captain America, then Steve Rodgers is just Steve Rodgers.

Monica Rambeau has had so many different names, she's just Monica as well.

Misty Knight is kind of like Nick Fury, in that, while technically just going by their names, their names are cool enough to count as Hero Identities. Like Max Power or E Cleaver.

Colleen Wing, though, does not fall into that category.

People just going by names is entirely acceptable within the super-hero genre.


 

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Define "real life".

They aren't formally accepted parts of the language, if that's what you're asking.
Language is use, and, yes, people use them.


 

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Well, your experience is DRAMATICALLY different from mine. I can't explain it.
Oh, come on now, I think it's actually a fair criticism of the game. When was the last time you ran a task force where people actually read or talked about the missions? Almost all the conversation in every one I've been on anywhere close to what could be defined as "lately" has centered around the subject the OP is referring to, either getting stuff or getting done quickly so that they can get the end rewards and move on to getting more stuff.

To the OP, sadly, people treating this more as a game to be "won" is much more typical than people treating it as a role-playing experience.

Having said that, though, there are good role-players out there. My suggestion would be to post a message or two on the server-specific forum, found below, asking for some decent role-playing supergroups on whatever server you want to call home. Try hanging out with some of those folks, and your experience will likely be much better. I assure you, there are people out there worth finding. If there weren't, I wouldn't still be playing. Once you run across a few, they can introduce you to others, and the game becomes a very worthwhile hobby.


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And it's a lot easier to type sie and hir than she/he and his/her.
Having to read it, on the other hand...