Does anyone here even LIKE comic books?
I've encountered them before, but typically only in online RPG circles where openly hermaphroditic characters were common. It's completely nonstandard and very very twee, especially when being used as presumably "polite" gender-neutral terminology. It's also wrong, given that the usage I've seen it in is specifically to refer to characters known to be neither male nor female, but not to characters whose gender is an unknown. That's always been "they."
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Thank you! Twee is the word I couldn't remember when I used pretentious earlier.
I was familiar with "hir" from SF, Peter David uses it in connection with his hermaphrodite character in Star Trek: New Frontier. Don't recall if he uses "sie" though.
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I remember when I started, my first reaction was: "Why am I adventuring in the Dungeon of the Disco Zombies, and wasn't this supposed to be a superhero game?"
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The thing is, here, we don't have a GM. We have devs. And I still have to ask if they're truly into the super hero genre. |
If devs give players the ability to look like Martian Manhunter then someone's going to tint the costume parts pink and call themsleves Martian Manlover.
If devs give players a Batman style outfit and a huge Hulk style body type, then someone's going to combine them to make Fatman.
If devs give players a Power Girl style outfit, then someone's going to tint it in trippy colors, add long hair, and make Flower Power Girl.
Unless every single costume and name had to be submitted to the GMs for approval, and then locked so that they couldn't be altered without further permission, then it's simply not possible to have a "pure" looking comic book game.
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and a bit more often this:
but I think that the devs at least try to give us this:
They just need more of them.
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I have a vocabulary larger than 99% of most people's (tested and approved to be so!) and I had never heard of "hir" and "sie." Those sound so ridiculously pretentious and politically correct, I can only imagine how PoisonPen must've come across in-game correcting someone's bio out of the blue.
Anyway, Virtue is where you want to be and hanging out in both the Comic Culture and Roleplaying forums to get a feel for where comic book fans hang out. |
They're gender indefinite pronouns; I've also seen them used in an insulting way to designate transgendered persons by people who did not want to grant the gender chosen to those individuals.
I think they only go back to the 1970s or 80s in origin, but I don't see why they're inherently bad neologisms. In fact, I think they're probably more useful in an internet age.
I do, however, think the OP could have just as easily referred to the character's gender rather than refusing to speculate on the player's gender.
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Ignoring the OP's post, I choose to respond to the thread title:
No, I'm not a terribly big fan of comic books. I did a little reading in my youth, and even collected a couple titles (I had 4+ years of sequential TMNT comics published by Archie Comics, and more comics about the Marvel superhero Sleepwalker than there are people who remember who he is... ), but I was always more interested in the superhero cartoons--He-Man and TMNT as a child, then Batman and Spider-Man in my teens, which bled into an interest in anime in my late teens that's only now starting to dull in my early 30s. I do read some manga pretty regularly, but most of my favorite titles have ended, so there are only four that I keep up with in any regularity.
Thus, most of my characters are either: super campy cartoon-style heroes or villains, the darker, troubled characters of the '90s, or someway themed around anime and Japanese sensibilities.
They're still superheroes and supervillains, but I never liked the "Golden Age" or "Silver Age" stuff, so you're not going to find a lot of that in my character roster.
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Ignoring the OP's post, I choose to respond to the thread title:
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No, I hate comic books. Can't stand 'em. Generalization time! Pacing is horrific, they release infrequently, there's not enough actual content per release, what content is there is usually superficial, or otherwise uninteresting to me.
That's western comics as I've been exposed to them. Manga, on the other hand, usually has action that I am utterly incapable of following, and I usually can't tell people apart.
I get more enjoyment out of novels, and video media. That's just me.
That said: I love the IDEAS and CHARACTERS that are in super hero comics, both western and eastern. From Spiderman to Batman all the way over to Kamen Rider and the gamut of magical girls.
I won't call your vision of tankers shouting "I am a MAN" and punching someone through the intestines.
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To elaborate, I didn't just play the JLA: Act of God card lightly.
I feel it's quite appropriate to what you always seemed to champion and part of what's wrong with the game: Blue Blue powered down, useless and ineffectual with his ideal **** upon. A gigantic swooning love letter to how 'awsum' Bat-Scrapper is while basically flipping off the Atom, Martian Manhunter, the Flash and other heroes. A massive mishandling of a cool idea that had potential.
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I like how something as simple as using a different pronoun is apparently a "naked plea for attention". Which has apparently caused people to jump out from all sides to let us know their preferences for grammatical particles. It's almost like the words we use to refer to other human beings are important, or something.
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You're annoyed by their words, so you communicate with your own words that words are "only words." If they were "only words", these "Proudly Anti-PC People" should have found alternate pronouns far easier to ignore by now.
Unfortunately, it seems that words do carry implicit and subtle meanings which can upset someone. So...
We are offended we hurt you with our thoughtless word choice and will be sensitive to your preferences in the future. :P
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Ignoring the original post (for various reasons), I shall also address the topic question.
I like them. Sort of. I like the characters, and some of the concepts and such, but I do not read nor collect western comic books. I do take care in 'some' of my characters, such as Shattered Fortune, my Ill/Rad Controller. She is a fairly powerful psychic who escaped from the Rogue Islands after being subjected to a failed experiment regarding integration of Fortunatas and machinery (not the spiders, though) and discarded. Others are blatant derivations of a certain series not licensed in the west and thus completely safe, or just concepts I find funny in my twisted mind.
However, if you are willing to count doujinshi (in this context, fan-made manga from Japan specifically), then yes, I do love comic books! Of course, the comic books I collect are not appropriate for such venues as this one.
... Cough.
edit: Playing my Ill/Rad and getting comments that my description is interesting is quite satisfying, though!
Especially for One Piece where you absolutely must suspend your disbelief to enjoy it.
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Whenever you find something that seems like it might not make sense, just say "Of COURSE it is!" (Or he, or she, or whatever.)
"There's a giant volcano in the back of the restaurant."
"Of COURSE there is."
It actually somehow helps, because if you think of it in terms of narrative structure rather than in terms of physics, you realize how well done it is.
... So they tell me. My aspie brain won't let me start a show until I know whether or not they finish it, because I won't watch something that doesn't have an ending.
Being interested in Asian entertainment doesn't make you crazy. Being crazy helps, though.
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Which causes me to realize: It would be awesome to do a FLCL-inspired character. But when will we get Incoherence Control and Vespa Assault sets so I can make the character properly?
Okay! Fat-fingered it the first time and accidentally closed my window.
Also, as noted, you definitely want to take a look at which server you're on and what the communities and chat channels available to you are.
If you're looking for RP, you're pretty much begging to play on Virtue. They're HEAVILY RP-oriented there. Pop up the channel search and search for RP, Virtue, etc and insert yourself into some of the more heavily populated channels you find.
Second, there are multiple communities out there, all differing on what constitutes "enjoyment". Some enjoy RP. Some enjoy marketing pursuits. Some enjoy farming. Some enjoy building heavily optimized characters.
There is no sole arbiter of "fun" in this game.
Second, some people play heroes and villains with cosmic levels of Genre Savvy power. Some are jokes. Some are heavily meta references.
Simply because you're RP'ing "Cosmic Savior" doesn't mean that you should be sneering at "Cornholio". Especially if said player is built as a world-beater of an [INSERT AT HERE].
Plus, you have the potential to have HUNDREDS of toons in the game.
Some will be mains. Some will be alts. Some will be "in development". And some are jokes, one-offs, concept builds, or test builds. Hell, some are just built to try the power set/at combination.
Currently I have a blaster on one server named "Test Marketer 0000001".
His SOLE reason for existing? Trying to see how much inf could be accrued on a brand new toon within an hour of creation.
You have the default costume options for 3 major portions of the game:
- City of Heroes
- City of Villains
- Going Rogue
On top of that you have costume options that can be unlocked in various ways.- Awarded free for completing certain content in-game.
- Awarded free for logging in during certain events.
- Built from recipes acquired, bought on the market or with merits.
- Bought using merits awarded for defeating certain enemy types.
- Awarded for free as Veteran Rewards
- Bought as part of various "packs" or "super boosters" or versions of the Game released in the last 7 years.
Also, it's been made clear that some of what you're asking for IS coming to the game in the (relatively) near future.Will you have UNLIMITED ability to create absolutely whatever concept takes your fancy? No. Of course not. But the costume designer for this game is ridiculously featuresome, even seeing that it's a 7 year old game.
Your FIRST communication with this person was to go all grammar/spelling nazi and, in effect to correct them for being "stupid". They responded with an understandable amount of heat towards you. And you're dinging THEM for rudeness?
Pot? Kettle?
Simply because you're playing on an American server does not mean everyone's an American.
Nor does it mean that everyone's first language is English.
Nor does it mean that they have a command of the language that you do.
It's roughly the same level of rudeness as you inviting someone over to watch a football game and them subjecting your home to the white-glove treatment.
Also, try to be a bit more relaxed about others' "mistakes". Yeah, I wince at some people's attempts at spelling and grammar too. But I do NOT start smacking them with it. Not my place or yours.
Finally, understand that not everyone plays the game for the same reasons you do.
Live and let live.
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