Does anyone here even LIKE comic books?


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Although the words are not in common usage, they are still as "real" as any other modern word
No, they're not. They're condescending, judgmental, superficial, artificial creations intended to demonstrate the supposed moral superiority of the speaker.


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Originally Posted by Venture View Post
No, they're not. They're condescending, judgmental, superficial, artificial creations intended to demonstrate the supposed moral superiority of the speaker.
That's the general feel I get out of them, myself, yes.


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Does it really matter if sie and hir aren't in everyday use? Can we please stop being pedantic I personally feel that enough discussion has been had over the OP using these terms.

As to the other matter of liking comic books? I never really got in to them, but I always loved watching superhero/supervillain cartoons when I was younger. Not just Superman, Batman et al, but Dangermouse, Hong Kong Phooey and Battle of the Planets. I think those are what got me in to the super hero genre.



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Wiki real word or not?

But to just wind it up even more...

linkage

Sooo many different ones, no wonder that nothing recently has been nailed down for it....


 

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Originally Posted by Kallandra View Post
As to the other matter of liking comic books? I never really got in to them, but I always loved watching superhero/supervillain cartoons when I was younger. Not just Superman, Batman et al, but Dangermouse, Hong Kong Phooey and Battle of the Planets. I think those are what got me in to the super hero genre.
That's kind of like where I started, only I actually started with things like the Swat Kats, the Centurions, the Real Adventures of Johnny Quest and, of course, the 90s X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons. I was born in 1984, so the 90s is when I was watching cartoons the most. From that I moved on to video games, and in the early 2000s into anime, more specifically movies, such as Ghost in the Shell, Fist of the North Star, Spriggan, Armitage III and the Battle Angel Alita OVA, the latter two of which inspired one of my favourite characters way back in 2004.

I know very little about actual comic books, but given the feel of other games which cite themselves as being "comic book style," I can't say I regret it. I don't know what age, era and style of comic books these games seek to ape, but they always come off as corny, campy and silly, which is not something I look for in a game. City of Heroes, despite the occasional appearance of frankly out-of-place full-tights characters like the Statesman, seems to be written more like a live-action movie in the spirit of the 2000's X-Men, Spider-Man, Hulk and Iron Man movies, and that's nothing but a good thing.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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I will make even MOAR new words.

Ahem.

de = he, she
dem = him, her
der = his, her

"Here de is."
"I see dem."
"We asked dem to join the team but de hadn't equipped der Alpha slot."
"De can do it demself."


 

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actually... that kinda works :S


 

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
That's kind of like where I started, only I actually started with things like the Swat Kats, the Centurions, the Real Adventures of Johnny Quest and, of course, the 90s X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons. I was born in 1984, so the 90s is when I was watching cartoons the most. From that I moved on to video games, and in the early 2000s into anime, more specifically movies, such as Ghost in the Shell, Fist of the North Star, Spriggan, Armitage III and the Battle Angel Alita OVA, the latter two of which inspired one of my favourite characters way back in 2004.

I know very little about actual comic books, but given the feel of other games which cite themselves as being "comic book style," I can't say I regret it. I don't know what age, era and style of comic books these games seek to ape, but they always come off as corny, campy and silly, which is not something I look for in a game. City of Heroes, despite the occasional appearance of frankly out-of-place full-tights characters like the Statesman, seems to be written more like a live-action movie in the spirit of the 2000's X-Men, Spider-Man, Hulk and Iron Man movies, and that's nothing but a good thing.
I'd say the "frankly-out-of-place full-tights characters" are lacking because the devs have yet to make any enemies that are just that.

Likely due to the use of minions, lieutenants, and bosses.

Those are typically the cannon fodder of AVs. They're not typically dressed in tights, or if they are they all look close to the same. Like the Longbow, then the boos(s) would have their individual flair.

What we need more of, is what they're less likely to give us. More missions with multiple AVs, and less minions, lts, and bosses, if any.

A mission where you take on the X-Men (well CoH equivalent) instead of a mass of the same looking types and then only one X-Men.


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Originally Posted by Flarstux View Post
I will make even MOAR new words.

Ahem.

de = he, she
dem = him, her
der = his, her

"Here de is."
"I see dem."
"We asked dem to join the team but de hadn't equipped der Alpha slot."
"De can do it demself."

I actually know people who speak like that in real life *shudders*



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I can never totally trust someone who doens't like capes and spandex
Touche. I'm a child of the 90's so uh, yeah... I've had my fill of spandex already tyvm :P

Anyways, I just get irked when people get indignant (not you but others) about the lack of roleplaying in any MMO as if it is a requirement somehow. Roleplaying is just a hobby, one single facet of any game, online or otherwise. Personally, I chose to play CoX for the wide variety of costumes and alts, as well as the flexibility of being able to partake in end game content without being locked into a 12 hour raid. Roleplaying isn't even in contention as far as reason go. Those days are over for me some 15 years ago, when I dabbled in PnP D&D back in high school.

As for comics specifically, I've read them once in a blue moon at friends places when I was younger but never collected any myself. I've maintained more of a interest in anime and manga since I like their themes, artistic style and plot twists a bit more. To each their own I guess.


 

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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake View Post
one thing this thread has proven is that there should be a city of manga mmo... i'd be totally down with that.
Except that mangas have many, many, many genres. First there are the primary genres of shounen, seinen, shoujo, etc. Under them, there are even more sub-genres such as magic girl, mecha, sci-fi, fantasy, historical, school life, sports, gekiga, etc. I hope you're not referring to a magic girl themed MMO :P

Speaking of manga themed MMOs, there is a certain Japanese console RPG game series (the name of which I can't mention due to forum rules) that has a online MMO varient so I guess that qualifies?


 

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Except that mangas have many, many, many genres. First there are the primary genres of shounen, seinen, shoujo, etc. Under them, there are even more sub-genres such as magic girl, mecha, sci-fi, fantasy, historical, school life, sports, gekiga, etc. I hope you're not referring to a magic girl themed MMO :P
I'm old enough to remember when American comics were more than just the super hero genre. When I was a kid there were westerns, war, romance, humor, horror, mystery, fantasy, science fiction, educational science, religion, classical literature and super hero comics.


 

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I'm old enough to remember when American comics were more than just the super hero genre. When I was a kid there were westerns, war, romance, humor, horror, mystery, fantasy, science fiction, educational science, religion, classical literature and super hero comics.
And to buy them we had to walk five miles, through the snow, barefoot, UPHILL BOTH WAYS....


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Originally Posted by Flarstux View Post
I will make even MOAR new words.

Ahem.

de = he, she
dem = him, her
der = his, her

"Here de is."
"I see dem."
"We asked dem to join the team but de hadn't equipped der Alpha slot."
"De can do it demself."

Southern Louisiana does gender neutral?


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And to buy them we had to walk five miles, through the snow, barefoot, UPHILL BOTH WAYS....
Back in the mid 60's, they actually had comic book VENDING MACHINES in grocery stores. They were common place and part of the cultural scenery in the late Silver Age. Not ghetto-ized and hidden away like a shameful addiction. The "Comic Book Store" was definitely a bad turn of events for the industry


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And that's what I love about my language (Portuguese): everything has sex in it.
You're living up to your rabbit image


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Originally Posted by Venture View Post
No, they're not. They're condescending, judgmental, superficial, artificial creations intended to demonstrate the supposed moral superiority of the speaker.
"They" and "their" work just as well, and don't cause any confusion - it avoids male bias, but doesn't make people wonder if the words are real or not


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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
frankly out-of-place full-tights characters like the Statesman
Spandex, capes and masks are never out of place in CoH - or any comic book game


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Originally Posted by baron_inferno View Post
Touche. I'm a child of the 90's so uh, yeah... I've had my fill of spandex already tyvm :P
Actually, you're probably wearing some now - almost everyone is - it's used in all kinds of everyday clothes - it's really only the patterned stuff that's not so usual outside comic books


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Back in the mid 60's, they actually had comic book VENDING MACHINES in grocery stores. They were common place and part of the cultural scenery in the late Silver Age. Not ghetto-ized and hidden away like a shameful addiction. The "Comic Book Store" was definitely a bad turn of events for the industry
Dunno about elsewhere, but there are still comic books in grocery stores around here, have been ever since I was a kid. Not in vending machines, mind you, that seems like kind of a silly concept, but they're with the rest of the magazines.


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Actually, you're probably wearing some now - almost everyone is - it's used in all kinds of everyday clothes - it's really only the patterned stuff that's not so usual outside comic books
Actually I don't, at least not knowingly. The odds are pretty good that I'm spandex free since I don't wear any tight fitting clothes other than thermals. All my clothes, as far as I can remember, are 100% cotton, cotton/polyester mix, cotton/nylon mix, wool/cashmere, denim (cotton twill), or silk. So there :P


 

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Dunno about elsewhere, but there are still comic books in grocery stores around here, have been ever since I was a kid. Not in vending machines, mind you, that seems like kind of a silly concept, but they're with the rest of the magazines.
Never saw any comic book vending machines. Around here they were on those spinner rack thingees that were around 5 or so feet tall, and they were in grocery stores, drug stores, convenience stores, and book stores.

The ones in the grocery stores here nowadays are mostly reprints, and those other places don't have any at all. So, thank goodness for the local comic book shop!


 

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one thing this thread has proven is that there should be a city of manga mmo... i'd be totally down with that.
When there is City of Hidamari Sketch or City of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, I will be there... for the absurdity if nothing else.


 

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Are these pronouns used in RL at all? I had never seen them used.

I agree the English language needs some genderless pronouns.
The English used to have genderless personal pronoun, actually.

It had a genderless personal pronoun, a self pronoun, a collective pronoun, an object pronoun and a female pronoun.

Note, I didn't say male.

"He", "him" and "his" weren't specifically male until the last couple of hundred years. Previously, the use of "he" for an unknown person could be used for either male or female.

However, the language is built around the assumption that being female is something other than normal. It is basically a marked state.

You have a person (which may be male or female) and you have a female person.

There was no marker for male because that was assumed to be the default.

However, now the language has shifted toward "he" being specifically male rather than a general person reference.

As a result, we have a hole in our pronoun grammar because of the fact that our neutral pronoun became our male pronoun.


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