Honoree mission Awful

Unreal. This OP is special

Tl;dr except the first couple posts. Soloed both at the same time as eb's at even level with ease on my night widow, didn't pull at all, stayed in melee the whole time and left all the portals up. Was fun reading the op's complaint before I tried it. Made me feel really really powerful heh. I'm a jerk. But in the op's defense my widow is a god.

So exactly what did I say that is so horrible as to completly offend your senses?

The mission is bad because it is too hard for many builds or playstyles, that the recomended advice is just drop the mission.

That dropping the mission might not have been the devs intention in writing it.

That Villian teaming is still problematic on many servers because of low population.

Is any of that so awful?

Now I did think that I had said in the original post that I already had dropped the mission, but I didnt... my bad on that one. Now I also did come back later and say the mission was stupidly easy on my dominator because water spout completly and utterly nullifies the EB's so its just pull and watch them scoot around on their rump.

I'm pretty sure it's been said a few times but I doubt many so'd toons would have too much trouble if they used insps wisely. Also most temp powers you can craft are pretty cheap, grab a backup radio, some envenomed daggers and if you're feeling frisky a shivan. I mean I wholeheartedly embrace the challenges and I think that just because this mission is difficult for a particular playstyle does not make it bad. I actually thought the whole arc, missions and text, were pretty spot on.
Isn't the whole fun of this game is that each character is good at different things?

Didn't find it that hard on my Blaster to be honest. Mission set at -1, liberal use of insps, accolades and a temp or two. Yeah, I died once or twice, but so what. It should be that hard.

Pretty easy.
Do not go into room.
1. Pull out Blackwand.
2. Take out first portal.
3. Let Rikti at portal chase you around corner back into previous room, wipe floor with them.
4. Repeat with second portal.
5. Sidle to room's edge. Repeat tactic with Holtz, pulling around corner and offing, then with Honoree.
6. Profit!

Now, after hearing my husband swear on his MM when he realized he was still set to AV, I was rather glad I did this on EB...I'm no AV soloer, even on my toughest scrappers.

Use inspirations or find someone to help.

The other thing you could have tried is reduce the difficulty to -1/x1/no bosses/no AVs.

I did that mission solo on beta with a Fire/Fire tank, a SS/Electric brute, a Fire/Dark corruptor and a Storm/Electrical defender. It was a big pain in the neck with the defender, but it was doable.

However, when I did it on live I turned the diff down to -1/x1/no bosses/no AVs for the defender. Because I've already done it like seven times now and am tired of doing it the painful way.

Completed this arc with six of my 50s this evening including three squishies and four characters without any significant IO investment. After doing this with unfamiliar beta-buffed characters, this was a breeze. This mission is not hard nor is it cheap. I only did the pulling the EB thing with my Cold/Ice Defender. My Ice/Energy Blaster and Illusion/FF ran right into the room and fought the bastids!

Only death of the night was on my BS/Regen when I suffered a crash. Damn Honoree was at 40% too!

You know I never thought in the history of CoH I'd ever say this, but I actually agree with Shubbie. My experience with this mission tonight, ice/dev/muni blaster, and my most IO'ed out character no less, full sets of entropic, posi blast, and basilisk gaze in powers.

Holtz was a chump, I nuked the portals around him with an LRM, then sat there popping purples till he dropped, he was far enough pulled that the other portals in the room didn't aggro or start spawning anything.

I get him down with about half hp and end left, think that's it, so i walk up to honoree to have a nice little chat. Promptly get held even through acrobatics instantly realize I don't have a break free (admitted mistake but usually acro has been soaking holds for me) right about the time i'm suddenly 2 shotted a couple seconds later.

So ok, fair enough, second EB I can deal with this, reload up on purples, get break frees, walk back to honoree. . . .

. . . . .

And see the room is now wall to wall bloody rikti. And ok here yes I'll admit another mistake, I underestimated the amount of mobs actually in the room, and though a call to arms + aim + lrm would clear it out.

Oh how wrong I was, got insta held again (through 3 purples) popped my break free, didn't matter as i started getting mobbed to death by the rikti. But hey I wasn't getting hit that much so I decided I'd take a whack at cheater there for a moment, i still had a mostly full tray and greens too.

It's about then I wager there must have been someone in that giant zerg...rikti swarm that was a healer, cause next thing I know honoree is back to full health. So I say forget it and retreat out of the room.

Start to put out a call to friends to ask if any are free. Notice honoree decided to leave the rikti to come after me. Great I say! Pop three more purples get two attacks off. . . .

. . . .

Then am promptly one shotted by an ELEVEN HUNDRED damage total focus through three purples.

At this point i was pretty much at /ragequit mode I was so fed up. Luckily though a MM friend was free by then, so he walks into the map, I call to arms his bots (though i honestly don't know if it buffed them or not) But either way honoree drops within ten seconds flat?!?

Seriously, what the heck devs? This feeling about that mission doubled when I duo'ed it after with a tricked out warshade friend. Granted this time I wised up and blizzard nuked the portals and the rikti swarm before it got too large. But honoree couldn't even dent him at all, heck i think he spent more time going after the nictus pets then anyone.

That mission to me holds the title of single worst piece of poorly designed crap the devs have ever put out period. And for all of you say it's supposed to be hard, it's incarnate content! I call BS cop out. There's hard, and then there's the problem devs have through pretty much all of prae too.

"How can me make it hard for players?"
"Uhhh more ambushes?"
"Perfect!"

Hard is having to actually think past pull him out of the room, or just drop him in the lava in trapdoors case. It's where you actually through good gameplay or insp use have a shot no matter what against what you're fighting.

That mission isn't hard, it's a flat out cheap zergfest both EB's do cheat beyond belief, and frankly if I as a squishy fan wanted to be forced to team to take on a mission that melee players or certain build do with ease, well I could go play that "other" mmo out there.

Every other 50 I get will auto complete this rather then waste my time trying it again.

Somehow when I went in, the rikti portals didn't spawn that many. I was running on x3.