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Discussion: Issue 19 Launch Update

Airhammer

By Airhammer,
Posted on: 2010-11-17 24:10 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion

 

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Originally Posted by AncientGuardian View Post
a showstoper bug that was reported at the start of beta
Is this accurate?

 

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Originally Posted by Championess View Post
It's too bad I'm not in charge! This game wouldn't be struggling for subscribers right now
... you're right. From the sound of it, it'd probably be as lively as Tabula Rasa right now if you were in charge.

 

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Originally Posted by Cyber_naut View Post
Is this accurate?
It was noticed early on yes. But that doesn't matter. How early a bug was found has nothing to do with how easy it is to fix.

@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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Originally Posted by Cyber_naut View Post
Is this accurate?

not sure if it was at the very START of beta; but what i have been able to gather is that it was reproted close to the start of beta.

Unless WW is talking about another bug altogether, the only bug(s) i know of right now that would prevent it from going live is the Kheldian form issue, and a Dom bug. If thats not the showstoper, then i may be wrong, but if that is the show stopper, then well... its the first bug i saw that wasn't touched in a while, and people were geting quite upset that it hasn't been "addresed in some time"

 

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Originally Posted by Championess View Post
So asking them to do work and put it out makes me an Enron Exec eh? Wouldn't that make me an Enron customer that is getting tired of all of their delays, ready to take my business elsewhere?
and just like them, you don't get it

 

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Thanks for the update. Trust me, I understand how brutal the "70+ hours a week until release" cycle can be. I can't even fathom the stamina needed in the MMO industry where the cycle appears to repeat endlessly.

To the developers, thank you all for your incredibly hard work. Our impatience is simply a testament to how much we love the awesome you create.

To the managers, thank you for attending 1000 meetings a day so your developers don't have to. I understand it must be painful, but if it wasn't for your sacrifice your developers wouldn't have time to create the awesome!

I wrote a thank you with some helpful suggestions to the executives as well but I decided to delete it lest I be banned from the game. It was something about how the result of underpayed and overworked is always a delayed release but it wasn't entirely coherent as I rambled quite a bit.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 

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Originally Posted by Noyjitat View Post
Would be kinda nice to see a partial update that would allow us to go ahead and earn shards so we can save them up and use them on launch day.
To be able to earn incarnate shards, you must have the slot. To get the slot, you must run Ramiel's arc.

It would take more time to split that off, test it, and patch it to live than this bug will most likely delay the patch.
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Thanks, I guess.....

Considering that the Enron Executives didn't care to hold themselves to a high standard and only focused on money then yeah I could see where that makes no sense in what you are relating me to.
You are telling the devs to release a faulty product - a thing not done by those holding themselves to a high standard. Thus, you are making yourself sound like your description of the Enron execs.

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It's nice that the devs have come out and given us insight into their thoughts, and we should be thanking them for that. They did not, and have not, provided a date that's set in stone. Some of the posts in this thread give us an idea of why the release date for issues are usually the patronizing "Soon" instead of the rough time-frame they're working with.

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Originally Posted by TrueMetal View Post
It was noticed early on yes. But that doesn't matter. How early a bug was found has nothing to do with how easy it is to fix.
If it comes out on the 7th of Dec..

Ignoring anyone is a mistake. You might miss something viral to your cause.

 

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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer View Post
If it comes out on the 7th of Dec..
It's out before christmas?

@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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Originally Posted by TrueMetal View Post
It's out before christmas?
Merry Christmas!

Ignoring anyone is a mistake. You might miss something viral to your cause.

 

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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer View Post
Merry Christmas!
And a happy new year!

@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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And a happy new year!
Let's hope it's a good one!

Ignoring anyone is a mistake. You might miss something viral to your cause.

 

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Well I am sad about this annoucement I am very happy to see a red name (no less War Witch) make an official statement. This is but one aspect that makes this game great! I am greatly looking forwars to this new update but I want all players to be able to have a great time as well am and pleased with your need to have it released smoothly and as close to humanly perfect as possible. Have a great Thanksgiving!

 

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Originally Posted by Great_Cthulhu View Post
So, how about more Halloween or a Double XP weekend to keep us busy over Thanksgiving? Or better yet, a GM invasion of Bat'Zul demons...they kind of look like big roasted turkeys.
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And Hami looks like a giant jello mold! We could get both dinner and dessert!
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

And so...
Have you begun making a video of this yet or what??

@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
Seconded i like this idea.
Also ty WW for letting us know and we appreciate you and all the Devs that make this Game as Great as it is.

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Arack BloodThrall lvl 50 BS/SR Scrapper - Triumph Server
Rose's Kiss Lvl 50 Mind/Nrg/Ice PermaDom - Triumph Server

 

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Originally Posted by Cyber_naut View Post
Is this accurate?
The problem, regardless of when it was discovered, was that it only affects SOME players. Several of my buddies have had zero problems respec-ing and not having powers stop working.

On the other hand, I've seen several threads discussing the bug.

So its clearly happening for some folks and not for others. Which makes it all sorts of fun for the developers.

"I saw my advantage and took it. That's what heroes do." - Homer Simpson.

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
I have been requesting dodgeball since the arena launched

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
Scrapper are linebackers and safeties. They just wanna run up to you and punch you in the mouth.

Brutes should be defensive linemen/linebackers for the same reason.

 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
Scrapper are linebackers and safeties. They just wanna run up to you and punch you in the mouth.

Brutes should be defensive linemen/linebackers for the same reason.
But a scrapper with scrapperlock and pointed at the CORRECT endzone would be a deadly thing. He or she would just plow over whoever got in the way and score.

And think of how the Incarnate system could help... slot for accuracy, range, and perception. You'd have a PHENOMENAL quarterback, even with two Widows and a Stalker on you.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
That'd be spiffy... wish there was a way we could reprogram the Arena for PvP Football for a Thanksgiving day game...

Tankers/Brutes/Lobster form khelds = pass blocking
Scrappers/SoAs = receivers
Widows/Stalkers = blitzers
Dominators/Defenders = defense
Controllers = coaches
Blasters/Corruptors = QB/kickers/punters
Masterminds = special teams

And catgurls as cheerleaders.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
Oh i'd cheer the heck out of a match like that!

 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
... you're right. From the sound of it, it'd probably be as lively as Tabula Rasa right now if you were in charge.
I think Auto Assault would be a more accurate model.

 

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Originally Posted by terrible_deli View Post
The problem, regardless of when it was discovered, was that it only affects SOME players. Several of my buddies have had zero problems respec-ing and not having powers stop working.

On the other hand, I've seen several threads discussing the bug.

So its clearly happening for some folks and not for others. Which makes it all sorts of fun for the developers.
I could be wrong in reading the posts on the Dom/Kheld problem, but it seems to be that any toons on the test server before a certain Issue 19 patch there could not properly respec the toons while toons brought in after that patch didn't have a problem. Now I am not computer expert, but if this is the case, what happens to every Dom/Kheld toon on the live servers once this patch goes out to Live? We may suddenly not be able to "fix" ANY of those toons and would have to instead remake them. I can only imagine the problems this would cause with the player base. I don't think there would be a lot of people that quit the game over it, but there would be some, as well as a lot of ill will toward the company in general. In all better to wait and get the fix in place BEFORE it goes live.

 

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Well that kind of sucks that things aren't going so well bug wise, but its better to delay things a week or two than to have a "showstopper" bug go live and ruin the game for many players. Thank you for giving the straight talk on the update, War Witch, the developer communication from Paragon Studios is one of the great things about this game, and I am looking forward to I19 for holiday season.

The truth is the solution from an equation of lies. ~Maileah Kirel